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Not flock related, but still camera related. The FBI released videos from Nancy Guthrie's attacker were taken from a camera which was "supposed" to be disabled as she wasn't paying for a service.
If it has a camera then it's recording you. I have a few Ring cameras that I don't pay for the service but assume that Ring is doing it anyway. They're left over from years ago and just as a way to monitor locations from my phone. I've since replaced them with ieGeek and 128GB SD cards. That's why Kinect never took off because everyone assumed it was sending footage to Microsoft. It's also why Mark Zucherberg puts tape on his laptops webcam.
Sometimes it goes hand in hand. You know what they say. Freedom isn't free. Gotta fight for it.
Ah, think of the children :eyeroll
You see how this persons life was ruined right? This is what I said happens when someone becomes the focus of a Police investigation. I really don't see how the good outweigh the bad here?
The problem with these cameras is that in order for them to work the Police must assume the AI is correct, otherwise they're useless. As we've seen, the AI makes mistakes. The situations where someone was wrongly arrested is the result of nobody doing an actual investigation.
Hopefully these lawsuits will change the minds of governments to stop wasting their time and breaking people rights to save some money and time with AI cameras.
If we ban cars we could save 30,000 or so lives a year in the US alone!
Except when it's OK to kill some to save some, you end up doing it more often and never look for a proper solution. The next thing you know you're killing because it keeps the rain falling. How did Benjamin Franklin put it? "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
That's not how either of them work.
The death penalty is a terrible idea because it becomes a tool that can often be abused. There are already situations where innocent people were killed due to the death penalty, but was found innocent after their death.
But what about the organ donors? Think of the organs!
Not happening. Why do you think they building out all these data centers every where now?
Exactly.
Horseshit.
I know, which is why I say those data centers should be audited to see what info they're keeping in there. You don't have those many data centers because you need to train AI. They're processing data with AI, and more than likely video footage acquired through illegal methods.
How's it go? The road to hell is paved with good intentions?
That never works. I know it never works because this was the tactic of the RIAA and MPAA. They put people in jail and ruined their lives to scare people away from piracy. All it did was push people to use better tools for piracy. Same goes for the IRS and Joe Louis who they went after to make an example out of him to not cheat in your taxes. Yet, people tax evade all the time. The IRS estimates that about 11% increase in tax fraud. What usually happens is when people get caught then they find better ways to not get caught.
Oh if only half the people who use this quote actually knew what it was in reference to... then about half the people would know where it comes from
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The problem yet again is that arresting someone does usually ruin their lives. Assuming that once someone gets out of jail and have been acquitted of crimes they were accused of, then they can begin the arduous task of not only trying to put their life back together, but finding a lawyer and suing a Police department. We are also making the assumption that the wrongful arrest was even caught. People could spend their entire lives in jail and never be proven innocent.
The problem with this tool is that it's intentionally a shortcut, and anyone who makes good use of this AI tool will never double check to see if it was correct. This is the problem we're seeing with AI applied to everywhere because it keeps making mistakes and people keep not checking to see if AI did the work correctly. If you have to check to see if AI was correct, then why even have AI at all? This is why more often than not, the AI mistakes will get through because nobody wants to spend time to double check it's work.
Is there an app that alerts me to which towns have the bad departments that abuse AI? If you're saying "good departments", then that suggests there are bad departments.
I literally linked you a few articles on these very events. But again, your argument is that the sacrifice we make using AI with Flock is a risk worth taking.
So where are the statistics that there are thousands of good outcomes versus one bit of abuse? And what number makes you happy? Is it 1:1? 1:100? 1:1000? What's the math that makes it ok.
How many of them needed AI Flock cameras? In a world of dash cams and cell phones, how many of those thousands needed Flock AI cameras?
One or two clowns is not the problem. It's when the inevitable circus that appears.
The scandals shows those who we are supposed to trust with our own safety and protection, are corrupt and thus, would use these new AI systems and abuse them also for personal gain...
The cop at the end say no one should be pulled over without legitimate RAS but yet he still does it.