This is not what you think. It is a ps5 feature that allows users to record and report toxic players.
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This is not what you think. It is a ps5 feature that allows users to record and report toxic players.
Thank you for the sane context here, vs clickbait misinformation. Its like Discord or any centralized service where others can create or put content there. It doesnt necessarily mean that the bosses are listening all the time (and there's nothing to suggest they are , though in SOME circumstances like with advertising, Amazon Alexa etc... they can listen all the time for their benefit ) but rather that other users can record stuff on the service as part of a the normal suite of tools they're given for clipping gameplay. Thus, that could be used in things like reports as well, and Sony is making people aware of it : "Hey, if you're playing on this console platform which has a dedicated share button, people might clip content of your character/avatar/gameplay for any reason we let them, including providing evidence when they report people". Not a big deal.
A lesser known corollary to Dunning-Kruger is that many a-holes don't know they're a-holes.I call bullshit on people being banned for "unknown reasons". People make that claim all the time, no matter how obvious the reason is.
Even the always-listening voice assistant fear is an unsupported claim. The device is just waiting for a waveform that lines up with the wake words, and only then does it actively record. While people like to say "but you don't know," it's actually pretty easy to find out... you'd see a lot of 24/7 data traffic, even if you couldn't make out exactly what it was.
There's something in the human psyche that clings to the OMG-it's-always-listening fantasy more strongly than with other suspicions. I suspect it taps into an almost primal fear of being watched, and that it's easier to simply demonize voice assistants than to accept a complex reality about how ad tracking takes place.
Automation of undesirable speech recognition for flagging and review is something that is already being done on many platforms, and considering how advanced telemarketing spammers, siri, and alexa and the like are getting, I wouldn't be surprised to see something implemented that would spy on users en masse in order to reduce overhead costs.This is not what you think. It is a ps5 feature that allows users to record and report toxic players. That includes any ps4 player. Don't overreact to clock bait videos. You really think Sony going to invest all this money to spy on 10s of millions of players ?
It doesn't have to be 24/7. Even periodic kB sized data is enough.Even the always-listening voice assistant fear is an unsupported claim. The device is just waiting for a waveform that lines up with the wake words, and only then does it actively record. While people like to say "but you don't know," it's actually pretty easy to find out... you'd see a lot of 24/7 data traffic, even if you couldn't make out exactly what it was.
Vault 7 says hi.There's something in the human psyche that clings to the OMG-it's-always-listening fantasy more strongly than with other suspicions. I suspect it taps into an almost primal fear of being watched, and that it's easier to simply demonize voice assistants than to accept a complex reality about how ad tracking takes place.
It's the best cure to the overblown problem being discussed here. It's futile, just like bitching about microtransactions. Gamers want to pay for those, just like they want season passes, bugged initial releases and sterilization of the multiplayer experience.
That's fair. I think there are universal things most people can agree on. Death threats, telling someone to off themselves, constant harassment, basically things that would get you banned in most places or kicked out of most groups and public spaces. However, if some 12 year-old wants to say they screwed someone's mother or that their opponent is "gay", whatever. Obviously we don't want every platform to end up like Twitter or YouTube where everything feels entirely arbitrary.I wonder who or what determines "toxic" behavior. Is someone going to be able to get someone else in trouble for wrongthink?
I bet everyone has a very different idea of what's "toxic" on a personal level, but what companies determine to be toxic often comes down to simply having a different opinion on a certain President...
Sony is listening. No, seriously, they might be listening in on your voice chats to see if you're a good little boy or if you're going werewolf. A new PS4 update is causing controversy with gamers. Now, they CLAIM they're not RECORDING anything, but some users are finding themselves blocked for unknown reasons. This, coupled with recent news about game devs trying to purge the industry of "toxic" players does leave us going HMMM...
Sony seems to want to flush $$$ down the toilet and become Big Brother.
Voice assistant data has been subpoenaed by law enforcement multiple times (specifically related to or seeking non-triggered content, not "Alexa help call the police" or some such) showing that listening for wake word all the time" feature" can be utilized for a wider scope of information gathering and there are huge privacy vulnerabilities and loopholes. Likewise, elements such as other tech with microphones ostensibly only active "sometime" have picked up keywords during conversations and used them to serve further targeted advertisements even though the users didn't believe anyone was listening at the time.
Demonizing proprietary voice assistants and other surveillance capitalism technology is completely viable even just for their "normal/expected" behavior, much less "extra" features that end up mysteriously enabled when people get caught. Voice assistants can be beneficial and help their users, but not if they're basically an information gathering device working for someone else. I'd rather support Mycroft (mycroft.ai) an OpenHAB (openhab.org) as user-focused alternatives for a voice assistant or home automation system, predicated on open source technologies.
Even the always-listening voice assistant fear is an unsupported claim. The device is just waiting for a waveform that lines up with the wake words, and only then does it actively record. While people like to say "but you don't know," it's actually pretty easy to find out... you'd see a lot of 24/7 data traffic, even if you couldn't make out exactly what it was.
There's something in the human psyche that clings to the OMG-it's-always-listening fantasy more strongly than with other suspicions. I suspect it taps into an almost primal fear of being watched, and that it's easier to simply demonize voice assistants than to accept a complex reality about how ad tracking takes place.
Google and Amazon literally said they are always recording. Always.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ice-search-iphone-android-desktop/2800403001/
In this article Google actually admitted they listen to everything the microphone is capable of hearing.
https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/goog...-confirms-why-people-dont-trust-big-tech.html
Google admits it:
https://m.businesstoday.in/story/go...ate-conversations-via-assistant/1/364104.html
Not an attack, just a point below.
Now about this time you probably skimmed over the first sentence, maybe the title of each link, but you havent read them. Chances are your brain is in a state of cognitive dissonance and you're formulating your defense. The human mind has to feel justified even if its wrong. Its psychology. Dont be afraid to embrace imperfection. Its really ok.
I am not trolling or attacking here. Just pointing out a psychological phenomena as well as rebutting your claim peacefully and respectfully as we should on here. And I ask to be counter-rebutted if you want with evidence as we certainly arent the only two reading the thread. Maybe we can both be informed more leaving than coming in. As a general rule, I tend to feel the more I know about something there is far more I dont know about said subject.
However, I agree this is a soapbox topic.
So you want authoritarian speech police?I'm all for any effort to kill off mean and rude behavior in games. A game chat is public. There are no privacy concerns here.
Back when servers were community servers they were much better policed, because there was frequently if not always a server admin online. At least mine were.
If your in game communication didn't make your grandparents proud, then I didn't want it there. My servers, my rules and if someone didn't like it, I invited them to inspect the ban hammer.
Ever since the companies run their official servers they go completely unpoliced and unenforced which has just resulted in intolerable behavior.
It's about time polite in game chats get enforced. As my grandfather always said: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."
Yeah, but why should you have to tolerate such hate speech? Imagine what would happen to someone who said that to your face? One shouldn't behave less dignified because there are less consequences. I mean, where's the integrity in people?Squeakers called my mom a whore and said they fucked my sister on PS3 COD and you know what?
I didn't die. Seriously not even a little.
My feelings were in tact.
What a soft world we live in these days.
Ummm...you do realize that our freedom ends when it encroaches on someone else's freedom, right? Not to mention there are no 'freedom rights' on someone's private system. You can either abide by the rules or be banned/prosecuted for virtual tresspassing. If these type of consequences were enforced more often, the picture would be very clear on what's allowed and what's not.So you want authoritarian speech police?
Also in the U.S. we have a right protected from both govt. and individuals. The right to speech freedom.
I absolutely disagree with your pov. But we are allowed to opinion however we want. I wont police you because you have a potty mouth. And as an American raised with the understanding of how precious and finite liberty is I will NOT demand someone else gestapo someone elses speech. Not sorry about that, men and women have died to protect what this new generation wants to obliterate - liberty.
"Hate speech"Yeah, but why should you have to tolerate such hate speech? Imagine what would happen to someone who said that to your face? One shouldn't behave less dignified because there are less consequences. I mean, where's the integrity in people?
So you want authoritarian speech police?
Also in the U.S. we have a right protected from both govt. and individuals. The right to speech freedom.
I absolutely disagree with your pov. But we are allowed to opinion however we want. I wont police you because you have a potty mouth. And as an American raised with the understanding of how precious and finite liberty is I will NOT demand someone else gestapo someone elses speech. Not sorry about that, men and women have died to protect what this new generation wants to obliterate - liberty.
"Hate speech"
It's called trash talk.
It's what people used to use in friendly competition.
That's what online play is, friendly competition. That problem is some people took it seriously.
I know its just so tough to mute the trash talker, better to just have companies dictact what you can and can't say/do.
Your mute button must be broken.Some of us, maybe even most of us, just want to hop on a server with it constantly havig to hear nonstop vulgarity, nasty racist shit, insults to people's mothers, etc.
It doesn't really matter what the intent behind what is being said is. It just gets really tiresome. For once it would be nice to get to play with people who behave like adults in polite company, not with People behaving like children constantly trying out the latest profanity they just learned.
Sadly most of us adults have too much shit to do, and only get enough time to occasionally play a game, so there isn't enough time to arrange meeting up with and playing with others, even online.
Your mute button must be broken.
Shame really.
Do you not see the difference between trash talk while gaming and slurs in a forum post?If I unleashed a torrent of slurs and threats at you in this post do you think Kyle would delete it and send me a message to stop being an ass hole?
Because, he would, I know this through experience.
The rules you agree to when you use a game or platform online already tell you what you can and can’t say or do. This is simply a way to enforce those rules.
I get this too as you find this in the street racing world. But when it isn't obvious that it is in jest, the onus is on the speaker to clarify what they mean. And if it's not in jest, that's aggression, plain and simple."Hate speech"
It's called trash talk.
It's what people used to use in friendly competition.
That's what online play is, friendly competition. That problem is some people took it seriously.
In a gaming environment it's always trash talk the onus is on no one to explain.I get this too as you find this in the street racing world. But when it isn't obvious that it is in jest, the onus is on the speaker to clarify what they mean. And if it's not in jest, that's aggression, plain and simple.
This is like saying that if people are robbing houses in your neighborhood you should just move. Yes, moving does solve the problem, but if you're not supposed to have people robbing houses, that's the root cause that needs to be addressed.I know its just so tough to mute the trash talker, better to just have companies dictact what you can and can't say/do.
There actually is no difference if each is violating the rules of each site.Do you not see the difference between trash talk while gaming and slurs in a forum post?
If you can't then I can't help you.
Excellent! So the 'if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all' rule will get followed.Frankly the result of this kind of extra crack down will be less communication, as people won't want to risk the ban or their account because someone else was offended. You can already see this behaviour not just in games but in real social situations.
This is like saying that if people are robbing houses in your neighborhood you should just move. Yes, moving does solve the problem, but if you're not supposed to have people robbing houses, that's the root cause that needs to be addressed.
afaik, most online communities have rules about conduct and one of the most fundamental concepts in those rules is don't harm, offend, harass others. Now, if grown adults can't read and behave, the company has a right to do what it deems necessary to enforce its rules.
Do you not see the difference between trash talk while gaming and slurs in a forum post?
If you can't then I can't help you.
Slurs are slurs, learn to taunt without profanity.
BTW I've been banned here for a month because someone said that what I had said (consoles were basically pc's) took a lot of balls and I answered "that you lack?" it was during the xb1 /ps4, it was a flame fest and yet that got me banned so yeah, private server, private rules, same shit happens with voice chat in games.
And if you can't understand that, mute your own mic, so you can yell obscenities alone in your room for your own pleasure.
The ammendment has absolutely nothing to do here, ffs learn how your legal system works people, Randy Marsh from South Park is more accurate than he should be.