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I haven't heard to much, and availability of the 10 series was crap, couple people on here bought MBs and waited some time for them to get in stock. I think Intel doesn't have much focus on HEDT since they had to slash the prices in half to stay somewhat relevant. Margins are much lower now so if they are going to have limited production capability, it's going to be for higher margin parts (at least that's how it felt for this last set of HEDT parts).Hello guys,
any news for next HEDT platform ? Or Intel stop moving in that direction at all.
couple people on here bought MBs and waited some time
Some have gotten them, so I wasn't sure the best way, I guess I could have added "with some still waiting". I would not expect availability for the next HEDT from Intel to be any better.Your use of past tense is partially incorrect. We're still waiting for our XE preorders. Major etailers removed the products from their sites because they can't get them.
The "Ice Lake X" name has popped up in places (including the Linux kernel), likely to be released in mid 2021 after Ice Lake SP makes its general availability and MB makers can do their things at the trade shows. But no telling what the 7nm delay/10nm acceleration and yesterday's reorg will do to the roadmaps. Intel has a very consistent history of releasing HEDT chips based on the 2P server platform, and there's no reason for them to stop.
I have been running an i9-10940x for more than 8 months now and it has been running fine. Glad I got it when it came out because the supply of the Cascade Lake-X seems to have all dried up. Honestly I feel Intel is concentrating on Enterprise and Data Center and not so much on enthusiast market anymore.
I have been running an i9-10940x for more than 8 months now and it has been running fine. Glad I got it when it came out because the supply of the Cascade Lake-X seems to have all dried up. Honestly I feel Intel is concentrating on Enterprise and Data Center and not so much on enthusiast market anymore.
I think intel's main problem atm is they can't make enough CPU's to saturate the demand and with threadripper decimating their margins on HEDT they don't seem to want to put a lot of resources into that segment for the moment as these are basically rebranded slightly modified xeons CPU's.
I have been running an i9-10940x for more than 8 months now and it has been running fine. Glad I got it when it came out because the supply of the Cascade Lake-X seems to have all dried up. Honestly I feel Intel is concentrating on Enterprise and Data Center and not so much on enthusiast market anymore.
Some have gotten them, so I wasn't sure the best way, I guess I could have added "with some still waiting". I would not expect availability for the next HEDT from Intel to be any better.
Yes, and questions is to wait 1-2 years and to move to next Intel CPUs or just to migrate to AMD team with 32 cores for better price.
Intel have had short runs when they focused on "Enthusiasts" (I remember somethin with a skull as logo) but their main focus has always been server/datacenter and laptops (was it Centrino?).
The requirements for server/datacenter and "enthusiasts" has just diverged the last couple of years.
I think intel's main problem atm is they can't make enough CPU's to saturate the demand and with threadripper decimating their margins on HEDT they don't seem to want to put a lot of resources into that segment for the moment as these are basically rebranded slightly modified xeons CPU's.
Mostly accurate I suspect, plus server chip sales are off the charts right now (especially with all the WFH initiatives - VDI/etc take a lot of sockets). They've had CPU shortages across the board for a while now, demand is so high.
Intel have had short runs when they focused on "Enthusiasts" (I remember somethin with a skull as logo) but their main focus has always been server/datacenter and laptops (was it Centrino?).
The requirements for server/datacenter and "enthusiasts" has just diverged the last couple of years.
Intel fell apart after Kyle started working there! lmao
I was really surprised how many people still use and upgrade x299 platform.
I have a 7820x and its a great chip. Recently just slapped some water cooling on it and feel like I extended its life for at least another year. If the other x299 CPU options had plentiful stock I wouldn't be so annoyed but its lasted longer than I had hoped. I even contacted Intel directly about the 10980XE and they basically said it was EOL. x299 was a great platform and I am not switching over until something more than an incremental upgrade comes along.The irony of course, is that certain segments of the community complain about AMD using AM4 for so long, but x299 came out within months of the first AM4 boards. At least AM4 has different chipsets/processors to go with it other than Skylake rehash after rehash after rehash....
I had a 7820x and when I bought it, it was a great chip. If I would have hung onto it, I'd probably be looking to upgrade since it's as simple as a bios update and locating the CPU.
Yeah, Intel's sockets tend to last when they have nothing new to release.The irony of course, is that certain segments of the community complain about AMD using AM4 for so long, but x299 came out within months of the first AM4 boards. At least AM4 has different chipsets/processors to go with it other than Skylake rehash after rehash after rehash....
14nm demand is high, selling more expensive xeons with the dies that would go to the 10980xe line makes more sense. that said finally in the last 2 weeks retailers have gotten 10980xe deliveries. i got my 2nd this month. after getting a bad overclocker for my 1st in december. theres been NONE available since january. 9980xe inventory has been clearenced and is matching 10980xe msrp pricing finally. so keep an eye out for those if you want. the 4 pcie lanes isnt really a big deal between the two. otherwise theyre identical for all intents and purposes.
i dont know what to expect for whatever comes next. 10nm isnt happening with high core counts in a meaningful way to end users, and we all know the big news this week about 7.. so i dont expect much on the HEDT side from intel for a long time. maybe a 3175x refresh as thats been hinted by guys like LUUMI and Wendel from L1techs. but if demand for 14nm stays as high as it is now from the big data customers i dont think its coming anytime soon.
You have to go a little further up the distribution then a retailer to get one. Several people have gotten them here successfully.Which retailer are you talking about? I signed up for B&H 10980xe in stock alert and 2 weeks ago I got an email that the 10980xe is EOL and B&H will no longer order/stock them.
i got one from b&h last monday. i had alerts for both the boxed and tray 10980xe.. i got the same email. the boxed is "discontinued" altho ive gotten that email from the multiple times. they had the tray 10980xe instock and available i saw posts from members on overclock dot net. no warranty from b&h.Which retailer are you talking about? I signed up for B&H 10980xe in stock alert and 2 weeks ago I got an email that the 10980xe is EOL and B&H will no longer order/stock them.
B&H has them for 1100if anyone has a line on a 9990xe ill never forget you for it. 14c 5ghz ultra rare CPU. have had ebay alerts set for months and months trying to get one, but they just havent showed up. they are super rare to begin with tho
not the 9980XE the 9990XE... auction only 14core 5ghz ultra rareB&H has them for 1100
not the 9980XE the 9990XE... auction only 14core 5ghz ultra rare
You have to go a little further up the distribution then a retailer to get one. Several people have gotten them here successfully.
https://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/sho...6YX100P.shtml&order_id=!ORDERID!#Availability
YessirI have never used shopblt before. Does the 10980XE in this link in retail box with full Intel warranty? If so I would be interested to finally get one.
not sure what your babbling about.. people have needs NOW for high corecount CPUs. and fact is with 10980XEs being about 3-4 hundred dollars less than AMDs current TR offerings (before board costs). and they slot in with boards that are cheap as far as HEDT motherboards go right now (i can get brand new X299DARKs for 199$ with warranty) and have already been in use in workstation and core intense scenarios. alot of the people you see buying cascade lake already have a x299 board and a older lower core count chip. its a no brainer upgrade in alot of cases. the people buying these KNOW why theyre buying them.So let's buy Coscadelake X and wait next 2-3 years for PCI-E 4 and DDR 5.
not sure what your babbling about.. people have needs NOW for high corecount CPUs. and fact is with 10980XEs being about 3-4 hundred dollars less than AMDs current TR offerings (before board costs). and they slot in with boards that are cheap as far as HEDT motherboards go right now (i can get brand new X299DARKs for 199$ with warranty) and have already been in use in workstation and core intense scenarios. alot of the people you see buying cascade lake already have a x299 board and a older lower core count chip. its a no brainer upgrade in alot of cases. the people buying these KNOW why theyre buying them.
feel free to wait 24-36months, some of us have work to do now.
you can get the chip and the board for the prices i said. BLT has them right now. i just got a 2nd 10980xe for $1050 in july.Well said. The only thing I would add is that your a bit off base about costs. The unfortunate reality is that the Core i9-10980XE costs about $300-$400 over MSRP. Ebay is about the only place you'll find them. You can't get them for their $999 MSRP. The cheapest I've ever seen one listed for is $1,100 but never in stock. Ebay is the only place I've found to source one. Aside from motherboard costs, the CPU is about the same price as a Threadripper 3960X which makes no sense.
I'm not sure on the EVGA X299 Dark going for that little, but new the boards aren't that much different price wise than some TRX40 options. Board cost simply varies as is always the case. Truthfully, a board I'd want for X299 probably goes for close to what a TRX40 board does. I think that if you have an existing lower end LGA 2066 CPU that the Core i9-10980XE makes some sense, (even with the Ebay gouging) but outside of that, not really.
you can get the chip and the board for the prices i said. BLT has them right now. i just got a 2nd 10980xe for $1050 in july.
How are you getting them easily from BLT? I've had a preorder in since February and I'm still waiting.
Every time I've checked them, they've never shown stock.
Indeed. Every time I get an ETA update, I go to the listing and it's already been postponed beyond that date. Sent them an email this morning asking for an update on my placement (started at 70-something) and info on how many they are actually receiving/shipping.