Mylex
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Worse console presentation period, yes even including the miss steps with the Xbox one reveal. I hope its just them not trying to reveal much but kill the non-stop xbox talk.
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Neither of which account for a bulk of their profits. YOU may want BC and i don't doubt others want it, but in the grand scheme, its a drop in the bucket and rarely a market moving factor. Period.Proof of what, exactly? Have you not paid attention to MS' marketing or the marketing for PSNow?
His Road to PS4 was way better I dunno, as expected the GPU is weaker (probably CPU as well), but the SSD could be 2x faster.
What bothers me is the variable rates of the GPU/CPU. I’m still day 1 but something tells me they focused on the wrong things this time around.
Neither of which account for a bulk of their profits. YOU may want BC and i don't doubt others want it, but in the grand scheme, its a drop in the bucket and rarely a market moving factor. Period.
CPU is only around 300Mhz slower than the SX (with SMT off), assuming it can stay at it's peak frequency. If they use the same boost behavior as Zen 2 normally does, then things could get a bit messy on the performance front.
It's a big enough market for MS to focus heavily on it and for Sony to use it to try and sell people on PSNow. Do you really think MS would spend who the heck knows how much money on tech to make older generation games look and run better if they didn't think it would sell systems?
Sooooo boring and I look at build evaluations for fun. I hope they factor in people like to make their consoles into little ovens by putting them in small spaces with terrible ventilation. If not those boost speeds are gonna be limited.
As per Euro Gamer heat is NOT a factor for boost
Boost is purely based on total power consumption of GPU + CPU & game workloads (CPU driven or GPU driven)
Guess we have to agree do disagree. BC has been a bitching point for every console gen for the past 20 years and it's never fully supported, wonder why. Makes sense from an arch standpoint now with x86 etc to have incremental console upgrades, but it is still not a main selling point.
I agree with this but people are weird about bc. They demand it while majority of people will not even use it outside short nostalgic bursts.Why would they? I barely have a want/need for PS4 BC other than maybe GT. Majority of gamers don't care.
People are more willing to allow for cameras and sensors in their living areas nowadays. Could just do that for head tracking.I’m going to assume to take full advantage of their 3D audio solution you’re going to need a licensed pair of headphones. Trying to find a sweet spot to sit in for speakers might get annoying.
Proof of what, exactly? Have you not paid attention to MS' marketing or the marketing for PSNow?
All the hype for PSnow is just a coverup. After five years, the service has only 1 million paying subscribers.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-10-30-playstation-now-hits-1-million-subscribers
Compare to Playstation Plus, which has 39 million subscribers.
Doesn't sound to me like backwards compatibility is more than an afterthought to Playsyation users. Might be more for Microsoft, but they're not really winning the console sales competition on that feature.
Remember when the PS4 was the best launch Sony ever had? It was also the first launch they ever made of a sequel console without backward-compatibility. It doesn't matter to a majority of their dedicated fans.
Well, yeah. PSNow was kind of crap for a long time. It wasn't until they started migrating to MS' Azure servers that things got better.
It's probably true, as they've bumped up subscriptions 300k in the last 6 months.
Buut most launch buyers aren't going to grab it because it plays PS4 games. I'm probably going to pick one up (my first Sony console), but only once thery release the slim version. I never have a reason to play multilatform games on a console - my HTPC does that just fine.
At least you can add your own NVMe drive on the PS5. That is a pretty big plus.
What else are people going to play on launch? Unless Sony and MS come out of the gate swinging, it's mostly going to be PS4 and older Xbox games to play on the new systems.
The same thing they did with PS4 launch : third party titles.
There weren't a ton on the PS4 launch. The best thing at launch was that free game Sony was giving away with Plus. I forgot what it was called, but I did enjoy it.
And yet, can you counter that fact that PS4 was Sony's strongest sales launch to this day? People will buy thee console just ta test out the new hotness, - even if it's just one or two games.
Remember when Zelda was a Switch system seller? All you need is a couple decent third-party games for the same justification.
There weren't a ton on the PS4 launch. The best thing at launch was that free game Sony was giving away with Plus. I forgot what it was called, but I did enjoy it.
Resogun? If so, that was a treat.
In some ways, I'd see a dearth of launch titles as a good thing. It's become almost cliché that the launch games for a console largely suck: there's the hastily cobbled-together tech demo, the 3D platformer that tries to recreate Super Mario 64's role as a system seller, the barely-better-than-last-gen sequel... at least here you won't feel pressured into buying a game you're ambivalent about just to have something to play.
The same thing they did with PS4 launch : third party titles.
There were quite a few third-party games, actually, especially compared to PS3:There weren't a ton on the PS4 launch. The best thing at launch was that free game Sony was giving away with Plus. I forgot what it was called, but I did enjoy it.
I agree, I got 2 free Xbox’s and they are both are still in use.I dunno, MS' response to the RROD fiasco was pretty stellar. I can't remember the exact details, but remember getting a new console was a painless (and free) affair. Still, I had about three original 360 consoles and all of them would eventually RROD. The S revision worked flawlessly, though.
How likely is it that these things are shipping the exact same APU? With MS getting the uncut, and Sony getting the cut? That would be a Laugh!
All Sony talked about that was special today was their SSD controller, but that's usually located in the m.2 card's package. Doubt it's integrated.