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This is the current state of the software market, and the fault is in Linux. The Linux mentality for the majority of software is continual "release" of alpha code without a decent installer, and adding more and more features while never fixing bugs. Most Linux software I've had to deal with, from Salt to Graylog to ElasticSearch to WINE, is like this. Few in the Linux market actually finish anything, or even make it operational for most users. Bug after bug is reported, but the developers ignore them in favor of adding "new features" that just makes things worse. Non-commercial software groups lack the direction and financial motivation to actually finish. People keep handing them money, because it is non-commercial and it makes them feel good because it isn't what they see as capitalism, and they keep putting out unfinished crap.
Did I drink too much... sleep too long.... and wake up in 2020?
I understand it's been awhile since I was in school...
I also understand Math today has somehow changed....
BUT is this NEW MATH 2018-2012 = 8? or .... 2018 - 2012 = 6....
I had the odd thought today at work about this. Who wants to take a bet that Chris converts this to a subscription-based streaming model in 2020?
They claimed to have started from 2011.
You have count from 0 to include the starting year, or add 1 after your math.
Did I drink too much... sleep too long.... and wake up in 2020?
I understand it's been awhile since I was in school...
I also understand Math today has somehow changed....
BUT is this NEW MATH 2018-2012 = 8? or .... 2018 - 2012 = 6....
Go back and watch the video released for the kickstarter. You can find it online. Realize at the time of the kickstarter the game had been in development per Chris Roberts for 2 years already on his dime.
NOW try your math again.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Not that he got a lot done other than a demo.
SO.... your telling me... it started in 2011.... so.. 2018 - 2011 = 8 years.. GOT IT.... not
Even if they started coding in 2011... they didn't start getting the funding until 2012... either way.. they math that I LEARNED.. is still off.
I'm not a backer. I do follow its development due to an interest in space themed games.Seeing so many people that don't follow the development of something, discuss it as if they do, is quite entertaining to me.
Carry on Gents!
Correct me if I'm wrong, I have not played the game.
But from what I have seen, it does look quite spectacular and not something that really deserves to be released today (flame on). Perhaps is probably too demanding (from a designer/programmer view) and just like a lot of future products, it has to wait on better tech to be fully realized.
And from my limited exposure to the game, it does seem to progress.
Seeing so many people that don't follow the development of something, discuss it as if they do, is quite entertaining to me.
Carry on Gents!
uh wut?This is the current state of the software market, and the fault is in Linux. The Linux mentality for the majority of software is continual "release" of alpha code without a decent installer, and adding more and more features while never fixing bugs. Most Linux software I've had to deal with, from Salt to Graylog to ElasticSearch to WINE, is like this. Few in the Linux market actually finish anything, or even make it operational for most users. Bug after bug is reported, but the developers ignore them in favor of adding "new features" that just makes things worse. Non-commercial software groups lack the direction and financial motivation to actually finish. People keep handing them money, because it is non-commercial and it makes them feel good because it isn't what they see as capitalism, and they keep putting out unfinished crap.
Release dates were missed?People say backers are crazy...anyone else reading the same comments I am? You people are screwy. Yes it's taking a long time...show me a game like this that's taken less time to make. Yes release dates were missed...that happens when entirely new tech and ideas evolve over ever increasing budgets and employee numbers. What we were said to have gotten at release is merely a speck of the game we have now. Feature creep? Yeah, a couple years ago. They've since had a release schedule with goals per release. Nothing, to my knowledge, has "creeped" in for a while now.
It's a scam to make Robert's money despite having no track record for being scam artist and we'll ignore hos obvious passion for amazing space sims.
I mean, call me some blind fanboy defender all you want but all of you will be eating crow here in just the coming months. 3.3 is already mind blowing and doing what NO OTHER GAME EVER has even attempted. 3.3.5 will be even bigger.
I just find the "its turned into a religion" comments here hilarious as everyone in these threads is 99% hate from the same people over and over again that have no backing for their claims other than missed deadlines forever ago all while ignoring all the progress and changes made from their original much more limited scope.
People say backers are crazy...anyone else reading the same comments I am? You people are screwy. Yes it's taking a long time...show me a game like this that's taken less time to make. Yes release dates were missed...that happens when entirely new tech and ideas evolve over ever increasing budgets and employee numbers. What we were said to have gotten at release is merely a speck of the game we have now. Feature creep? Yeah, a couple years ago. They've since had a release schedule with goals per release. Nothing, to my knowledge, has "creeped" in for a while now.
It's a scam to make Robert's money despite having no track record for being scam artist and we'll ignore hos obvious passion for amazing space sims.
I mean, call me some blind fanboy defender all you want but all of you will be eating crow here in just the coming months. 3.3 is already mind blowing and doing what NO OTHER GAME EVER has even attempted. 3.3.5 will be even bigger.
I just find the "its turned into a religion" comments here hilarious as everyone in these threads is 99% hate from the same people over and over again that have no backing for their claims other than missed deadlines forever ago all while ignoring all the progress and changes made from their original much more limited scope.
Blah blah blah
Robert's has an undeniable problem with creep and deadlines.
Again, as I just fucking said they have a release schedule now. Since 3.0 can you name me one feature that's "crept" in? Or are they sticking to deadlines and features as per release as they've been doing?
So instead of actually specifying what I've made up, you actually replace my text in the quote and then just make an accusation?Proving my point.
So much of what you said is just you making shit up or stuff that's no longer relevant. Period.
Again, as I just fucking said they have a release schedule now. Since 3.0 can you name me one feature that's "crept" in? Or are they sticking to deadlines and features as per release as they've been doing?
I guess what I really want to know is why all of you naysayers have such an unquenchable thirst and desire and absolute NEED for the game to A) Be a scam and B) Fail.
All this talk about blind backers and fanboys being this and being that all the while all any of you do is constantly talk shit about something most of you clearly know nothing about and can't even try to look at the positives.
Yeah, some of the fanboys can get a bit out there in defending it but, goddamn, you "naysayers" have CLEARLY become a far larger group and have CLEARLY lost your marbles. Seriously, find me ONE article or forum post ANYWHERE about this game where the comments aren't negative and insulting a vast majority of the time.
It's like you need the game to fail and for you to be right despite all that you have going against yourselves.
It's really bizarre and disturbing quite honestly. Most of you don't even have any money in the game yet someone saying something positive is INSTANTLY a Roberts dick sucking fanboy that needs to die for being such an idiot...yet they're the "cult".
Then why visit these threads?
I guess what I really want to know is why all of you naysayers have such an unquenchable thirst and desire and absolute NEED for the game to A) Be a scam and B) Fail.
All this talk about blind backers and fanboys being this and being that all the while all any of you do is constantly talk shit about something most of you clearly know nothing about and can't even try to look at the positives.
Yeah, some of the fanboys can get a bit out there in defending it but, goddamn, you "naysayers" have CLEARLY become a far larger group and have CLEARLY lost your marbles. Seriously, find me ONE article or forum post ANYWHERE about this game where the comments aren't negative and insulting a vast majority of the time.
It's like you need the game to fail and for you to be right despite all that you have going against yourselves.
It's really bizarre and disturbing quite honestly. Most of you don't even have any money in the game yet someone saying something positive is INSTANTLY a Roberts dick sucking fanboy that needs to die for being such an idiot...yet they're the "cult".
Are you fucking kidding me? Why are you here? To just continuously bash the game using your same talking points over and over again that have already been crushed? And not even crushed by those trying to defend it but crushed by what's actually being done and shown and what's playable right now!
Lol, I guess my last comment was spot on. You people are a cult. A violent one at that. Either HATE Star Citizen and think it's NOTHING but a scam or DIE.
It's so fucking pathetic at this point.
Again, more blanket accusations.
You are a child, you don't even read if you could, you would know why I am here. Welcome to the ignored cluster.
I could say the EXACT same for you. You are a child that is too uneducated to know what's going on. I don't know a single programmer or developer in my circle that sees a problem with SC's development. 6 years from no money and no studio to 200 million and hundreds of employees. Yeah, SHIT CHANGES. Yeah, SHIT HAPPENS.
As it's looking now though your side is falling off a cliff, and fast.
Can you, will you, admit to being wrong when proven otherwise? That time is fast approaching.
Right, blanket accusations = WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAD AND EVERYONE LIKE IT.
You're blind. You're in denial. You want this to be something it isn't. That's called a cult. You're a cult follower on the losing side. Look at your post. Talking about me being BANNED for not being a fucking sheep like you.
Again, pathetic. Get over it. The game is being worked on and making great strides. I know that hurts you but it is what it is. Get the fuck out of here with your "as you do nothing but making reasonable discussions of a specific topic to be a difficult pain in the ass" bullshit. There is no reasonable discussion going on ANYWHERE HERE before I commented.
Good God, like, tell me you're just trolling, seriously. Your comment is so full of shit and hypocrisy it's literally mind bending..
This is why I will never play SC, you rage and troll and don't read. This community is going to be as toxic as any MOBA.
Come back when you actually read any of my posts above instead of one line and flip out. Bye.
It really is comical at this point.
Being willing to play a game is not a requirement to talk about it, especially when that game isn't even out yet.LMAO!!! Oh my GOD!! Hahahaha!!! TOXIC! WON'T EVEN PLAY IT!
So you're toxic calling others toxic for calling you out on your toxicity and THEN you say YOU WON'T EVEN PLAY IT! THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT??? My god...
You are, really. You don't want "discussion"...you just repeats of the same ole bashing hateful shit constantly. Look at your post history in these threads. There's no discussion with you, just "agree with what I say while I ignore everything you say".
LMAO!!! Oh my GOD!! Hahahaha!!! TOXIC! WON'T EVEN PLAY IT!
So you're toxic calling others toxic for calling you out on your toxicity and THEN you say YOU WON'T EVEN PLAY IT! THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT??? My god...
You are, really. You don't want "discussion"...you just want repeats of the same ole bashing hateful shit constantly. Look at your post history in these threads. There's no discussion with you, just "agree with what I say while I ignore everything you say despite all that's happening with the game". That's literally it.
Being willing to play a game is not a requirement to talk about it, especially when that game isn't even out yet.
So since it's not out yet, why are you talking about it?
I suggest you shut up, you really aren't doing any favors to this title.
Are you fucking kidding me? Why are you here? To just continuously bash the game using your same talking points over and over again that have already been crushed? And not even crushed by those trying to defend it but crushed by what's actually being done and shown and what's playable right now!
Lol, I guess my last comment was spot on. You people are a cult. A violent one at that. Either HATE Star Citizen and think it's NOTHING but a scam or DIE. It's like a bunch of Flat-Earthers.
It's so fucking pathetic at this point.
Thank god, we can go back to actually discussing the topic.This is my last post in this thread.
Thank god, we can go back to actually discussing the topic.