topcat989
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Already saw that movie, it was the hilarious joke of a modern take on Mad Max.
I'm about as anti SJW as they come.
Fury Road was awesome.
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Already saw that movie, it was the hilarious joke of a modern take on Mad Max.
I'm sure that making it a SJW movie will help. It made the Ghostbusters movie awesome!
but the misogynists of [H] always prejudge stories based on casting, not story
Not really sure where the "social justice" criticisms of Star Trek come from, there's nothing new about Star Trek and liberal social commentary and character portrayals, that's always been a part of the Star Trek universe.
They were integral to the story, not put there to provide empty virtue signaling - which is what the Ghostbusters reboot was (among other faults too).
damn i just found out Anton Yelchin tried to stop a rolling car and died. i thought he was the best version of Chekov. going to be hard to replace him.
Nothing wrong with a female lead and a female villain, so long as we get some fan service. Come on SJW's, meet me half way. Also, throw in some borg for good measure.
Not really sure where the "social justice" criticisms of Star Trek come from, there's nothing new about Star Trek and liberal social commentary and character portrayals, that's always been a part of the Star Trek universe.
damn i just found out Anton Yelchin tried to stop a rolling car and died. i thought he was the best version of Chekov. going to be hard to replace him.
If they continue to be there because they are substantive part of the story, then I doubt anyone will notice - just as you pointed out with the original series.
Don’t confuse watching hot women, I.E. Scarlett Johansson, for your pleasure as having a stance on watching any woman in any role.
Discovery was the only series that truly sucked.
I suspect that Picard was offered it several times, however Kirk's advice to him was to turn down anything that took him out of the chair in Generations. Presumably he took it to heart.There was Voyager and not to mention the last known canon Janeway was Admiral and Picard is still just a damn captain after how many years.
The Expanse is really good writing. Movies like Annihilation are SJW trash with ridiculous plot lines, horribly written characters and story arcs.
Star Trek has always been rather in your face with this sort of thing. They never felt the need to tell you they were though. Which of course causes me to wonder why they feel the need to do that.
I loved Voyager, Kate did awesome as Janeway. Her being a woman never really mattered. It just was. Which is as it should be.
Discovery was the only series that truly sucked. It had nothing to do with it being SJW though, they all have been. They just totally fucked up the Klingons, and a couple members of the main cast were ridiculously unlikeable, and the continued service of one crewperson on the show was not even possible in any military service ever. It badly broke the suspension of disbelief.
This is another case of the makers should just shut up about these things. If the new protag and antag are female, great, who cares. Pointing it out to us as though it should matter to us is both stupid, and sexist. It certainly does not fill me with confidence for the films entertainment value, when people with such poor judgement are making it.
They didn't market Solo as anything other than what it was. Again, if you think it was an SJW movie or it was marketed as one, that's really on you. And FYI, virtually everyone that saw it liked it. Cincema score is A-. IMDB 7.1/10 (or 3.5 stars). Even on RT, where trolls rule the reviews (esp when it comes to movies they perceive as SJW movies (even though in most cases they never saw it)) it was more positive than not.And that is a result of failed marketing. What I mean is, the movie was marketed as something it wasn't, lo and behold for a SW movie it was a flop. The simple reality is, that when you have a franchise like SW or ST and begin marketing it as something it isn't... the otherwise reliable fanbase(aka $$$$$$) grabs their wallet and runs.
Give me a break. There's not a thing in that article that is SJW (unless SJW just means WOMEN in film have KOODIES) and yet first post is already saying it's SJW...apparently women can't have major roles in Star Trek.How so? Today's so called leftists demand that things not even remotely recognizable as common sense be thrust upon the core of society, if not through fact or science, than by executive fiat. The problem being pointed out, is that if the film is ALREADY virtue signaling that norms of this film, which were already "boldly going" in questioning certain societal norms, then how is it going to focus on the actual story? Hollywood isnt out of ideas, but none of them get made because in an effort to normalize vastly dissimilar ideological beliefs to the majority, they have to tear down pre-existing norms through media and entertainment.
SO, discounting the fact that so many "remakes" have been wholly worthless to the masses that consume them, how is, yet again, using the same model (insert x, y, x, y "social progressive" agenda here) on top of a preexisting meme of entertainment going to make a GOOD MOVIE? But its okay, calling out the stupidity of the agenda makers in hollywood automatically discounts any dissent as "misogynist". Being that pejorative counter-claim was the first example expressed to the fact that "new" Ghostbusters sucked dick and this model isn't working, maybe you could of found examples of a good remake that exemplifies how so called social justice progress makes movies a better experience for us and our peers; instead of blasting off on a claim that construes moral superiority?
I won't claim Solo was the greatest movie, but it was fun and it certainly wasn't marketed as you claim. If that's what you think then you probably need to take a look in the mirror, because the movie wasn't marketed as a chick flick or a so called SJW flick. Then again, neither was TFA or TLJ, but hey, the executive producer is a woman, so it must be an SJW flick
Oh yes, it was so SJW. It was literally like every trek in teh past, except with more consistent writing, less fluff and better special effects. Most of the bitching here on [H] wasn't even correct, but I doubt they ever got past the first episode, so they haven't a clue.All I can say is, exhibit A - Star Trek: Discovery.
I rest my case.
I guess you missed the part where the lead character in 7-8 was a woman and she's effectively the future of the Jedi for those 3 episodes. The fragility is strong with this one.View attachment 89341
In the immortal words of Arnold Judas Rimmer - “Wrong, wrong, absolutely brimming over with wrongability.”
Don't watch The Expanse series if you're afraid of girls. It has a lot of them. shudder
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In the immortal words of Arnold Judas Rimmer - “Wrong, wrong, absolutely brimming over with wrongability.”
Really? It wasn't marketed as an SJW movie? The "this is the first female droid in starwars"(ignoring episodes 1 and 2), the "hey, check out the sexuality of lando!" when it was apparently completely irrelevant. Nope, definitely wasn't bombarded by interview after interview, article after article, and so on for 6 months prior to the premier of the movie about how progressive it was, and then being told for months afterwards that I must hate women, LGBTQ, minority characters, and so on because I'm a toxic misogynist asshole, with Rian Johnson going so far as blaming gamergate in recent weeks.They didn't market Solo as anything other than what it was. Again, if you think it was an SJW movie or it was marketed as one, that's really on you. And FYI, virtually everyone that saw it liked it. Cincema score is A-. IMDB 7.1/10 (or 3.5 stars). Even on RT, where trolls rule the reviews (esp when it comes to movies they perceive as SJW movies (even though in most cases they never saw it)) it was more positive than not.
I won't claim Solo was the greatest movie, but it was fun and it certainly wasn't marketed as you claim. If that's what you think then you probably need to take a look in the mirror, because the movie wasn't marketed as a chick flick or a so called SJW flick. Then again, neither was TFA or TLJ, but hey, the executive producer is a woman, so it must be an SJW flick
Which would be great, but like I said when they're more interested in telling us that there's going to be a female character, it tells me based on a lot of recent movies that they're going to be more focused on that than having a good character who happens to be female.Female main crew/cast character added in late in the series... all ya'll complaining about the feminist angle when this would be a perfect opportunity for it to be the re-introduction/reinvention of... Lt. Saavik.