The Woz Has Left Facebook

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I'd like to see Zuck pressured to donate his shares to charity.

No more phony apologies. Talk is cheap.

 

[BSmith]

Data is sold, in most cases ad data is not really sold, as much as targets are sold, people of a given data profile that might be looking for or a high chance of buying something, or of a given demographic you want a message targeted to, you tell FB or whoever ad service you end up using what demographic you want to target and they issue the ads to them from an ad server off of a given platform, the actual user data is never given to that company (though some do, depending on the ad company and price). In the case of apps, which are different than ads, as that sell items or issue their own ads etc which a cut is given to the platform, in this case FB. However apps are allowed given access, just like installing on a phone, the people know what they are giving access to, as its right there on the agreement for access. You might have not used FB, but I bet you have a smartphone you have installed an app to, and it's asked for access to the camera or GPS or contacts etc etc, it's the same with FB apps. What has happened is that people agreed, and probably didn't read it at all, and are not upset the app actually did compile data. Now the third party app did do one thing wrong, in that they shared the data with a third party, but that is more an issue for FB in that it stops FB from getting more money for the data if clients share the data with anyone. However that is not a FB issue, but rather the owner of the app who chose to distribute the data, which is already against FB's terms.

Actually, I have never owned a smart phone. I have a dumb flip phone.

I stand by my assertion Facebook is not doing anything many other companies are doing. Whether or not it is transparent per any agreements, I feel comfortable saying 99% of the public have never read any agreements and 75% have no idea what is being collected, or by who, or where it ends up. Yes, I pulled the numbers out of my tin foil hat.

I'd like to see Zuck pressured to donate his shares to charity.

No more phony apologies. Talk is cheap.

He could donate them as the board of Facebook may help him get out, with a generous severance package to be sure. Enough he would not need those shares any longer.

 

[d3athf1sh]

I do have a gmail account because it's simple.

you know that google reads your private email to target adds, right? oh.. yeah, you like having tabs kept on you. as long as your name is'nt connected w/ your (ip) number.

 

[nysmo]

While people might not be too keen on having their info sold, people these days are far too narcissistic to sacrifice their likes and popularity contests for info about what kind of shoes and toilet seats they like. Look at all the people setting themselves on fire and doing ridiculous stunts ruining their lives on livestream. Look at how many people livestream absurdly mundane details like just driving their car to work or doing their taxes. Everyone wants to be famous. In fact I think there was some youtube documentary once detailing how most people's greatest fear today is being unknown. The only thing I ever used FB for was to have a presence for Google in case any employers wanted to stalk me during my interview process. By providing some imagery to suggest I was a normal functioning adult I figured it'd look good if they ever did this. Then I started just posting meme's to amuse my coworkers. It was never about me, it was about making people laugh. Deleted account a few weeks ago out of principle.

 

[nilepez]

Back in the day before facebook was a public stock option, Facebook was intended mostly to link friends and family, but someone decided that to profit fully on everyone as a whole was to data mined the living CRAP out of everyhting that someone liked and shared. Anyone remember where there were no adds and the sharing buttons and all the BS that came AFTER it went as a public stock? That's when it all went south, everything was corrupted as soon as they figured out how to turn everyone on there into a marketable product. I actually think facebook was fairly harmless until that point.

There was never a chance that FB would remain ad free. I took a lot of money to keep FB going before it went public and they weren't giving Zuck money to create a site without a plan to monetize it. The same is true for Google, Twitter, Instagram (even before FB bought it) and snapchat.

Remember when MTV didn't have ads? Yeah that ended once they could sell ads and the more ads they could sell the more ads they had.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Day late and a dollar short there Woz. Its been obvious for awhile with facebook's seemingly endless security problems. Guys like him who used to be all about security and "fightin the man, man" sure turned into lovers of the cloud when it meant lots of profits for their stock portfolios and retirement plans.

Nothing wrong with your own 128TB personal cloud, especially when it's LAN access only

Because giving shit away for free ain't cheap.

Free? We paid for cable, and got ads anyway!