Bits Be Trippin' Mining on NVIDIA TITAN V

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If you have a couple of hours to spend the guys a BBT run the new TITAN V against a dual GTX 1080 Ti setup configured for mining and even plays a little PUBG on it. Overclocked they got it to 77MH/s with a wattage load at the wall of 237w.

Check out the video.

The testbench for todays livestream is our normal testbench (we will remove the two EVGA GTX 1080Ti SC cards, perform a DDU and install from scratch).
 
So,Volta is better than three 580’s. Impressive. Two of these would be more powerful than a typical 7 card rig. Great for density oriented rigs.
 
So far, I've only watched the little bit where Vertcoin was being mined, but for that algo it's only 25% faster than a 1080TI for 5x the cost. It does make Volta look promising for the high-end gaming lineup though.
 
I wonder how much performance is to be found from CUDA 7.0 optimizations and the tensor cores...
 
Well Gaming Nexus should have a good run down on gaming ability. Looks promising for Volta overall especially how little power it takes for the results.
 
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I mine and would consider this card for my mining setup, but a Vega with the 17.11.4 drivers does close to 2000 Mh's in XMR for less than a third of the price at about a 150 watts. There is a leaked performance info on the upcoming Adrenalin drivers which makes the Vega lineup 15% -20% faster.
The math here is pretty clear. This card should not be more than $ 200 vs 1080 Ti or a Liquid Vega.
 
Comparing their 3DMark FireStrike Ultra score to my Vega 64 LC; the Graphics test score is 46.6% faster than the Vega 64 (8720 vs 5949 ). Now the 1950x blows my uber slow 6700K out of the water :D. Will see what the 1080 Ti does.

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yumnmycandy said:
Will there really be any miners, who buy this card? Even it's fast, it's expensive.
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you are probably correct about the Titan V, but if Volta chips have good mining/watt performance, it spells doom for gamers that plan to upgrade to volta GPUs next year.
 
geok1ng said:
you are probably correct about the Titan V, but if Volta chips have good mining/watt performance, it spells doom for gamers that plan to upgrade to volta GPUs next year.
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Glad I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon but still disgusted what mining has done to the PC industry.

I think to really get more attention to the detrimental effect it has on us consumers someone needs to find a way to hack consoles for mining along with chaining them together. Suddenly when the planet is sold out of those too then more people will wonder WTF as to the artificial price inflation's.
 
Well that just about makes it the fastest GPU in existence for ether. I dont think I could even find a dual chips professional card that outdoes that. And from what I remember 44mh/s is roughly the same profitability as 1k on Monaro so although up there a well tuned Vega is still the best in profitability (from the cards you guys know of :p )
 
serious question (not /s)
a. why do people buy 10k gpu or 6 600$ gpus etc... (3600-10k)
vs
b. a 3-4k$ asic setup that does 500 hash?

Is the ASIC setup misleading? I have someone i know that really wants me to chip in $ for asic setup since it appears on appear way more cost effective than gpu mining. I understand "hey turn my hobby pc into a mining machine while im at work" but... for dedicated rigs like china or server racks etc... why GPU over ASIC if asic is maybe 2-10x more cost effective?
 
A lot of profitable coins are using algorithms that don't yet have an ASIC for them (e.g. Ethereum). ASICs are also tied to a single algorithm. So there's a risk that the coins that it can work on become extremely difficult to mine before you've made your money back. Then you're stuck with an ASIC that has no value for anyone. On the other hand, GPUs are more versatile since they can mine multiple algorithms. If another algorithm becomes more profitable, you can just switch to it without another investment. Also, if the GPU become worthless for mining, it may still have some intrinsic value for gaming.
 
geok1ng said:
There will not be a gaming Volta, only mining Voltas. :(
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There will most likely be a Volta GTX and you will likely see quite a few used Nvidia and AMD GPUs for sale when miner upgrades happen. I guess being on the bleeding edge can cause cuts, less bleeding in sorta-new video cards if you don't mind being a little behind in your games. Yes, I know this is [H], it is what it is.

I am currently playing Skyrim on a GTX 680 that mined coins for years, was worth about $150 used two years ago, and I used it to mine what is worth several $Ks now. My other 10x0 cards are mining 95% of the time instead of rendering enemies they render coins. What a strange world.
 
oROEchimaru said:
serious question (not /s)
a. why do people buy 10k gpu or 6 600$ gpus etc... (3600-10k)
vs
b. a 3-4k$ asic setup that does 500 hash?

Is the ASIC setup misleading? I have someone i know that really wants me to chip in $ for asic setup since it appears on appear way more cost effective than gpu mining. I understand "hey turn my hobby pc into a mining machine while im at work" but... for dedicated rigs like china or server racks etc... why GPU over ASIC if asic is maybe 2-10x more cost effective?
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Adding to ryan_975's post:
By the time you get your hands on an ASIC the difficulty has gone up and makes it nearly worthless. I've read about companies keeping the ASIC tech they develop to themselves for up to a year or more before passing them on to consumers.
 
triwolf said:
There will most likely be a Volta GTX and you will likely see quite a few used Nvidia and AMD GPUs for sale when miner upgrades happen. I guess being on the bleeding edge can cause cuts, less bleeding in sorta-new video cards if you don't mind being a little behind in your games. Yes, I know this is [H], it is what it is.

I am currently playing Skyrim on a GTX 680 that mined coins for years, was worth about $150 used two years ago, and I used it to mine what is worth several $Ks now. My other 10x0 cards are mining 95% of the time instead of rendering enemies they render coins. What a strange world.
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Na In most cases they would just add new cards and keep the old ones mining.
 
cdabc123 said:
Na In most cases they would just add new cards and keep the old ones mining.
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Even if the difficulty is too high to make any money on those cards? At some point you upgrade and sell so you can get a decent amount of coins mined. When faster cards come out, it's inevitable that it will obsolete many cards.
 
so @ 10 cents/Kw, ROI at current prices would be about 11 months. Unless you have stupid high power costs, this doesn't make sense to mine with IMO. Unless you have some massive farm, then it may safe you on other stuff like power supplies and the number of machines you need to run, but even still, going to be hard to get that investment back.
 
triwolf said:
Even if the difficulty is too high to make any money on those cards? At some point you upgrade and sell so you can get a decent amount of coins mined. When faster cards come out, it's inevitable that it will obsolete many cards.
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it won't happen for a few years. 88mh/s is on par with what Vegas do in Monero and it's still more then profitable to none on a HD 7850 or a ancient 6 core Westmore chip. It may happen at one point but the cards will be obsolete for everything else first.
 
mnewxcv said:
so @ 10 cents/Kw, ROI at current prices would be about 11 months. Unless you have stupid high power costs, this doesn't make sense to mine with IMO. Unless you have some massive farm, then it may safe you on other stuff like power supplies and the number of machines you need to run, but even still, going to be hard to get that investment back.
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Yes, it's a big investment, risk if it will pay off, so many variables in mining really sometimes just hoping things will get better is all you can do. It is interesting to see what the next GTX may do compared to this beast.
 
triwolf said:
Yes, it's a big investment, risk if it will pay off, so many variables in mining really sometimes just hoping things will get better is all you can do. It is interesting to see what the next GTX may do compared to this beast.
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All current mining stats equal, you could likely get 4 1080 Ti's for $3k, and aside from a motherboard to accomodate 4 cards instead of 1, and a 1000w+ psu instead of a 300w+, the 1080 Ti's would have a ROI in under 4 months. Even if you factor in an additional $750 to upfront costs, for mobo and psu and gpu availability, ROI is still under 5 months.
 
cdabc123 said:
it won't happen for a few years. 88mh/s is on par with what Vegas do in Monero and it's still more then profitable to none on a HD 7850 or a ancient 6 core Westmore chip. It may happen at one point but the cards will be obsolete for everything else first.
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My magic see the future globe says hard to say. Lots of coin prices are fluctuating wildly, so it's the wild wild west. It's true cards can come back to be good miners too when the prices jump way back up, as was seen after many people sold their 7xxx and R9 2xx cards, so I can agree to a degree. Lots of variables, sometimes mining a coin at the time doesn't seem profitable at all until a few years later. So we will see, I like cheap used cards so I am biased hoping they get dumped on eBay. :D
 
mnewxcv said:
so @ 10 cents/Kw, ROI at current prices would be about 11 months. Unless you have stupid high power costs, this doesn't make sense to mine with IMO. Unless you have some massive farm, then it may safe you on other stuff like power supplies and the number of machines you need to run, but even still, going to be hard to get that investment back.
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You're kinda stating the obvious and probably overthinking it. The point of the video isn't "this GPU is great for mining!" -- the point of the video is a youtuber publicity stunt video for clicks because a new Pro/compute card is in the headlines.

It's like Kyle putting a 8700k in a vice, grabbing a chainsaw, and looking into the camera- "Can it de-lid?"
 
mnewxcv said:
All current mining stats equal, you could likely get 4 1080 Ti's for $3k, and aside from a motherboard to accomodate 4 cards instead of 1, and a 1000w+ psu instead of a 300w+, the 1080 Ti's would have a ROI in under 4 months. Even if you factor in an additional $750 to upfront costs, for mobo and psu and gpu availability, ROI is still under 5 months.
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Good analysis. Optimist would even say 2 month payoff with bitcoin and other coins going to the moon, pessimist 20 months or something saying it will cool off. Can really depend on what you can or could sell coins for. It's a lot of variables, and hindsight hurts sometimes. I've done quite well, tried to support coins that have actual use and innovations. Seeing litecoin go up 3x makes me a little sad I stopped mining it when it was getting more difficult to mine, so many choices, I chose another coin that is closing on $1K, Dash, so I will hope and use whatever information I can to try to choose well. It's been a wild ride.
 
Hard to get excited for a $3000 pro card. Let me know how it stacks up to a TitanXP for gaming and that MIGHT give us a clue to as to what to expect with the successor to the 1080Ti...but so far it's looking underwhelming for the price point.
 
I say buy it for gaming, it's fun getting burned 3-6 mo after a new titan *waits to see the $2500 "barely used not overclocked" titan v ebay listings when the 20(percent faster)80gtx comes out.*
 
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