Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

I would be really excited for this but the only affordable option to me will be 8 core at best. Even that would probably cost 1k for cpu/MB/ram. The 18 core is going to be like $2500. $2000 for the 16, $1700 for 14 core, $1500 for 12 core, $1000 for 10 core and $600 for the 8 core.
 
Nathan_P said:
People have been comparing Ryzen 7 to intel HEDT since the day it launched, not sure why but probably only judging on core count and ignoring the limitations of the chipset.
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Because AMD did in marketing slides and public demos, like in the infamous Blender demo between 8-core Zen and 8-core Broadwell-E.
 
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All the sockets for the Zen family. juanrga is right, like it or not.
 
CSI_PC said:
I must admit if true I am rather disappointed they have gone without solder for the newest Skylake-X, seems Intel is rather hit/miss when they go without that implementation and die-to-heatspreader.

Intel Skylake X: Up to 18 cores confirmed and not soldered: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Skyla...Kerne-bestaetigt-und-nicht-verloetet-1228994/

Cheers
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I really hope this isn't true, but if it is, it'll be another example of the utter contempt that Intel has for the high end enthusiast, If true, it would be the equivalent of Intel throwing a temper tantrum at having to compete again.
 
lutjens said:
I really hope this isn't true, but if it is, it'll be another example of the utter contempt that Intel has for the high end enthusiast, If true, it would be the equivalent of Intel throwing a temper tantrum at having to compete again.
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It could be ok, but they need to prove they finally got their act together with regards all aspects of the die-TIM-heat spreader and finally provides a fully consistent performance envelope that scales.
But still, simpler for most of us if they just leave it as is and soldered.

So fingers crossed this info is wrong, or if not Intel really has got its act together with the change.
Cheers
 
It just doesn't make sense...these chips would come off the same production line as the Xeons...if they use TIM on the i9's, they'd have to use it on the Xeons too...so I'm officially calling BS...
 
lutjens said:
It just doesn't make sense...these chips would come off the same production line as the Xeons...if they use TIM on the i9's, they'd have to use it on the Xeons too...so I'm officially calling BS...
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There were no Skylake-W announcements/rumors, just in case. So, they do not come from the same production line as the Xeons right now.

Also, so far i am sticking with theory that TIM usage only applies to Kaby Lake-X and LCC/MCC die Skylakes are soldered as it used to be.
 
lolfail9001 said:
There were no Skylake-W announcements/rumors, just in case. So, they do not come from the same production line as the Xeons right now.

Also, so far i am sticking with theory that TIM usage only applies to Kaby Lake-X and LCC/MCC die Skylakes are soldered as it used to be.
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There have been exactly zero Skylake-W rumors about anything. It would actually be a very pleasant surprise to see Skylake-W and Skylake-X merge to become one and the same (which they should be anyway).
 
lutjens said:
There have been exactly zero Skylake-W rumors about anything. It would actually be a very pleasant surprise to see Skylake-W and Skylake-X merge to become one and the same (which they should be anyway).
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And since there were exactly zero Skylake-W rumors about anything, it means that there are NO LGA2066 Xeons to speak of.
 
Just remember, guys: Intel nearly doubling the amount of cores available to HEDT has NOTHING TO DO with AMD's sudden competitive lineup.

As we ALL KNOW, Intel was offering us the absolute MOST it possibly could, and wasn't at all stagnant prior to having real competition.


/s
 
lolfail9001 said:
And since there were exactly zero Skylake-W rumors about anything, it means that there are NO LGA2066 Xeons to speak of.
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We can speculate as to why not...;) It'll all be revealed in short order anyway. It is plausible (a little at least) that the two lines have been merged and that i9 brand will be the single processor enthisiast/workstation platform, while the Xeon brand is strictly 2P+ server /workstation related.

Like I said, we'll find out for sure very soon...;)
 
KazeoHin said:
Just remember, guys: Intel nearly doubling the amount of cores available to HEDT has NOTHING TO DO with AMD's sudden competitive lineup.

As we ALL KNOW, Intel was offering us the absolute MOST it possibly could, and wasn't at all stagnant prior to having real competition.


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LOL! Yeah, they had planned to give us an 18-core chip all along...:ROFLMAO:
 
lutjens said:
Oops...true enough...Intel nevers gives anything...how about make available at a sure to be high price...;)
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Sure enough, but then for almost everyone question would be: "So what if we can buy it, it's not exactly worth it".
 
lolfail9001 said:
Sure enough, but then for almost everyone question would be: "So what if we can buy it, it's not exactly worth it".
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What I'm after is an HCC chip that's unlocked and has ECC/RDIMM support...price is less important. I'd definitely consider the 7980XE if it had ECC/RDIMM support and would probably stick it in my iTX system (hopefully ASRock will release an X299 iTX board to succeed their X99 iTX board). I'll be picking up either a Threadripper or Naples system as well.
 
Essentially, if true, this proves my point I've made MULTIPLE TIMES in this forum about how Intel was indeed self-stagnating the consumer desktop and HEDT market. back in the days of the Core 2s and OG i7s, we could get fully-unlocked versions of the biggest-baddest xeons Intel had silicon for. After AMD went full-retard with BullDowner, Intel started to hold off on offering anything innovative to HEDT and consumer spaces.

People said I was making it up, and that "THERZ NO WAI INTEL CUD AFFORD TO SELL THET KINDA CHIP!!!1"

Now look at this, Intel offering 18 core unlocked silicon because AMD finally pulled up its pants.


The [H]ard prophet has spoken.
 
KazeoHin said:
back in the days of the Core 2s and OG i7s, we could get fully-unlocked versions of the biggest-baddest xeons Intel had silicon for.
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No you would not. Intel had six cores out like 3-4 years before Westmere was released. Eight cores a year before Westmere and of course 10 cores in the first E7 line-up.

Intel could afford not to care about consumer market with competition being Bullcrapper, but let's be real, Intel never really cared about enthusiast market, outside of formal gesture in form of HEDT.
 
lolfail9001 said:
No you would not. Intel had six cores out like 3-4 years before Westmere was released. Eight cores a year before Westmere and of course 10 cores in the first E7 line-up.

Intel could afford not to care about consumer market with competition being Bullcrapper, but let's be real, Intel never really cared about enthusiast market, outside of formal gesture in form of HEDT.
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Good point. But with Sandy Bridge, the 6-core $1000 Extreme i7 was ACTUALLY an 8-core Xeon chip with two cores dissabled. Then the Ivy Bridge continued that trend, only allowing even MORE cores to be dissabled. With Haswell, socket 2011 Xeons had 18 cores, "extreme" i7s were.... less than half that. Broadwell? You can drop a 22-core Xeon on an X99 board... meanwhile "extreme" i7s had less than half that... for $700 more than previous "extreme" chips.

Lets face it: Intel has been selling us LESS silicon for MORE money.

Now that AMD has taken their dick out of their hand, Intel has to remember how to compete.
 
KazeoHin said:
Lets face it: Intel has been selling us LESS silicon for MORE money.
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So you buy silicon over design? Nvidia is also selling you less silicon for more money.

In that case AMD is a complete ripoff too. You get so much more silicon in NAND chips!
 
lolfail9001 said:
We still do not know why KBL-X exists at all though.
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I think the idea that Murthy started in 2015 is to get gamers on the HEDT platform in the long run. If you look at the mainstream platform, you see WiFi integration and soon Thunderbolt/USB-C integration. So I guess someone saw 389$ in this case with SKL-X being too high for the "entry" gamer.
 
lolfail9001 said:
Yikes, they really did not solder Skylake-X O_O
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Xeon Phi isn't soldered either. And with good reason so I wouldn´t be surprised. Hopefully its the same for all Xeons too. The gap is the important part, not if solder or paste anyway.

On the other hand, easy to delid.
 
KazeoHin said:
Anyone want to have 18 F****ING CORES in ITX!? I DO.
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You could have 22 last generation, i am not impressed.

Plus usage of SO-DIMMs kind of fucks over memory compatibility, though it is neat we can have a quad channel x299 itx.
 
Trust me as a user of a LOCKED 14-core Xeon: Locked cores aren't cores as far as I'm concerned. This is one of the reasons These and AMD's Threadripper makes me moist.
 
KazeoHin said:
Trust me as a user of a LOCKED 14-core Xeon: Locked cores aren't cores as far as I'm concerned. This is one of the reasons These and AMD's Threadripper makes me moist.
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Imagining the rage of a guy who's delid of 7980XE went wrong is what makes me moist, personally.
Shintai said:
KNC as example.
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Well... More power to Intel i guess, we'll see how that works out soon.
 
If the 18 core exists, the core scaling between will be interesting to see.
KazeoHin said:
Just remember, guys: Intel nearly doubling the amount of cores available to HEDT has NOTHING TO DO with AMD's sudden competitive lineup.

As we ALL KNOW, Intel was offering us the absolute MOST it possibly could, and wasn't at all stagnant prior to having real competition.


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And people will still go out and buy it because it says Intel, regardless of performance.

Reason they don't solder is it's not solder - Indium is rare as fuck (to point of potentially causing manufacturing issues in future), hard to get and not nice for the environment to produce. Delid and grow some balls if you want to go crazy.
AMD does it though with Ryzen.
Looking to future synthetic diamond will be the way to go for heatspreading.

Will enjoy seeing Epyc and the 7nm Threadripper versions next year make Intel cry and do unprecedented things like this again.
 
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