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Not really....still no unified messaging client in sight...AAMOF Google is intentionally going back to 6+ unique snowflake chat apps, that are all different in their platform compatibility, that still aren't as good as iMessage.
My comment has always been the same about the Nexus phones. Google has the cash and engineering team to put together a top of the line nerds wetdream stock Android phone.
As Jordan used to say "Just do it"
They got very close with last years 6P, as far as a well designed, higher end phone, but sold for a more budget price. Imagine if the 6P instead of being at the $499 price point, was instead at the Galaxy or iPhone pricing, meaning the phone was just as high end as those. The Pixel phone would be a no brainer to buy.
But I'm the wrong guy to discuss this, I love my Nexus 6P, and for a 2015 phone, I'd take the 6P last year over the iPhone 6S Plus or Galaxy Note 5 all day long, and twice on Sunday, and it's not because of pricing, but I just find the 6P the best phablet period of 2015. Now imagine if the 6P did cost a little more, but then also had better camera, and better screen for the increased price. Who the hell wouldn't want that phone over the competition ?
Google has the money, they just need the Pixel phones in U.S Carrier stores, which according to rumors, will indeed be in stock at all 4 Carriers this Fall. And then market the frigging crap out of these new Pixel phones, just like Samsung started doing a couple years ago, I think spending like $500 million on advertising each year, worldwide.
If they don't have removable storage/microSD slots and removable batteries then as usual they won't be devices I give a shit about and will get better hardware from another manufacturer that does understand there are those of us that demand such aspects or they will not get our business.
Not really....still no unified messaging client in sight...AAMOF Google is intentionally going back to 6+ unique snowflake chat apps, that are all different in their platform compatibility, that still aren't as good as iMessage.
Yeah, and?
But I won't get a G5, or the V20 either at this point, I still find the G4 is the best smartphone I've ever had the pleasure to use and it still takes the best images I've ever taken with a smartphone camera but that's just my personal experience. Yes I realize the G4 has some issues for some people with the bootloop thing but I had a G4 from the day they were available for sale and used it for 15 months, never had one single problem with it, not one. I seriously regret selling it and actively remain on the lookout for one to replace it to be honest but for the moment I have a G Flex 2 that suits my needs and requirements just fine - yes, it has a Snapdragon 810 but I have no thermal issues since I keep the phone working as a quad core device, 2 Little cores and 2 Big, and that's more than enough for my purposes and saves a shitload of battery life too.
But LG stepped away from being original with the G5 and V10 and reverted to being just another ordinary smartphone like the rest with the side mounted buttons and that was pretty much where I decided the G4 would be the last LG product I'd bother with aside from the G Flex 2 I grabbed earlier this year for $25 because it had a cracked glass front to it, works just fine in spite of the damage and a $600+ near-flagship device with power to spare phone for just $25, couldn't pass that up.
Not really....still no unified messaging client in sight...AAMOF Google is intentionally going back to 6+ unique snowflake chat apps, that are all different in their platform compatibility, that still aren't as good as iMessage.
If they don't have removable storage/microSD slots and removable batteries then as usual they won't be devices I give a shit about and will get better hardware from another manufacturer that does understand there are those of us that demand such aspects or they will not get our business.
My comment has always been the same about the Nexus phones. Google has the cash and engineering team to put together a top of the line nerds wetdream stock Android phone.
As Jordan used to say "Just do it"
They got very close with last years 6P, as far as a well designed, higher end phone, but sold for a more budget price. Imagine if the 6P instead of being at the $499 price point, was instead at the Galaxy or iPhone pricing, meaning the phone was just as high end as those. The Pixel phone would be a no brainer to buy.
But I'm the wrong guy to discuss this, I love my Nexus 6P, and for a 2015 phone, I'd take the 6P last year over the iPhone 6S Plus or Galaxy Note 5 all day long, and twice on Sunday, and it's not because of pricing, but I just find the 6P the best phablet period of 2015. Now imagine if the 6P did cost a little more, but then also had better camera, and better screen for the increased price. Who the hell wouldn't want that phone over the competition ?
Google has the money, they just need the Pixel phones in U.S Carrier stores, which according to rumors, will indeed be in stock at all 4 Carriers this Fall. And then market the frigging crap out of these new Pixel phones, just like Samsung started doing a couple years ago, I think spending like $500 million on advertising each year, worldwide.
So, Apples limitation of choice is a GOOD thing?
And it's not as if users can't (and don't) install third party chatting apps on iPhones. I know lots of people who exclusively use WhatsApp for their texting needs, and most of them are on iPhones.
But then you run into exactly the problem. Talking all of your friends and contacts to migrate messaging services AGAIN. Choice is a nice thing, except when it requires EVERYONE you know to have to choose the same thing....which is what IM services do.
Whatsapp penetration is very region specific, EU it is a huge hit.....USA not so much.
I don't see what the problem is with communicating with some friends using one service and others using another.
I primarily use whatsapp to communicate with my Brazilian fiance and her family, I use Facebook Messenger to chat with old friends who I've only kept up with on facebook, many local people I communicate with via SMS, with my geekier friends (which is odd coming from me) who refuse to embrace chat/social media I communicate using email...
and that's perfectly fine, as far as I'm concerned. I don't understand why everyone has to be on the same service.
I don't see what the problem is with communicating with some friends using one service and others using another.
I primarily use whatsapp to communicate with my Brazilian fiance and her family, I use Facebook Messenger to chat with old friends who I've only kept up with on facebook, many local people I communicate with via SMS, with my geekier friends (which is odd coming from me) who refuse to embrace chat/social media I communicate using email...
and that's perfectly fine, as far as I'm concerned. I don't understand why everyone has to be on the same service.
I'm with you. I don't get the need for one all powerful chat app. I could give a shit. I don't care if I get an e-mail, an SMS, an MMS, or a Hangouts message. I won't care once Allo hits and I start using that too. With today's phones and quick replies right from the notification shade why does it matter at all? Half the time I never even actually open the app completely lol.
Companies aren't stupid.
The problem is that, especially for Google....all its chat platforms are VERY platform specific.
-Hangouts chat works on everything (desktop, cellular mobile, tablet) for now...until they're done breaking it into being what they are dubbing a "business" chat client.
-Allo is mobile-to-mobile only
-Duo is mobile-to-mobile only
-Messenger is cellular-enabled-mobile to cellular-enabled-mobile only. Your wifi tablet cannot use it....Unless you have Google Voice...
-Google Voice for now is omni-platform, basically, although it sucks at fragmenting SMS conversations rather than keeping them consolidated by contact....hopefully Google doesn't break it any time soon....Knowing Google they will.
So in order to chat with someone you need to guess what platform they are on, correctly.... AND they need to have that client installed. AND did I mention they have to actually be using/nearby the chat client that is platform specific that you guessed initially? Does this sound moronic yet? THAT is why One-Chat-Client-To-Rule_Them_All is a better strategy..
The problem is that, especially for Google....all its chat platforms are VERY platform specific.
-Hangouts chat works on everything (desktop, cellular mobile, tablet) for now...until they're done breaking it into being what they are dubbing a "business" chat client.
-Allo is mobile-to-mobile only
-Duo is mobile-to-mobile only
-Messenger is cellular-enabled-mobile to cellular-enabled-mobile only. Your wifi tablet cannot use it....Unless you have Google Voice...
-Google Voice for now is omni-platform, basically, although it sucks at fragmenting SMS conversations rather than keeping them consolidated by contact....hopefully Google doesn't break it any time soon....Knowing Google they will.
So in order to chat with someone you need to guess what platform they are on, correctly.... AND they need to have that client installed. AND did I mention they have to actually be using/nearby the chat client that is platform specific that you guessed initially? Does this sound moronic yet? THAT is why One-Chat-Client-To-Rule_Them_All is a better strategy.
You haven't thought this through either.
Yes they are.
Yes the G5 has a removable/replaceable battery, yes it has a microSD card slot, but they altered so many other aspects of the device (side mounted buttons, a step backwards for them in my opinion, is one major aspect) that I just can't consider it anything I personally would buy.
I'll never understand the iPhone/iOS hate. Seems like a foolish waste of time, energy, etc. I spent years with iPhones (3GS to 6 Plus) and have no complaints. Switched to Android for a new experience and am very pleased. Looking forward to the Pixel/Google phone, but love my HTC 10. I plan to stick with Android at least until we see what's what with the iPhone 8.I guess why even try to be something like the iPhone ? IMO the iPhone blows, and I loathe and hate iOS with a passion. I don't understand the iPhone love fest, to me it's just a generic looking phone, with the same lame design year after year, and is outrageously overpriced and way overhyped, and runs a simple near Dumbphone not smartphone OS. I honestly don't get it.
To me stock vanilla Android is where it's at. "It just works"
And Touchwiz, LOL I despise that more than iOS, because I don't see the need for a different UI over stock Android, and all the stupid duplicate apps Samsung makes, when Google already has them.
All the phones with volume on the back are plastic.
I think the 820 is much more important than volume button placement.
You say that like it's a problem or some kind of a defect or something. Case in point: my LG G Flex 2 has what's referred to as a "self-healing back cover" because the material it's made of literally can repair itself from light scratches. For all those people that just picked up or had their iPhone 7 Jet Black smartphones delivered today, I absolutely fucking guarantee you that already - just in the past 12 hours from the time I'm making this post at 11:27PM Pacific time - there are at least a million owners of those phones that already have noticeable scratches on that pretty glossy finish of that phone and it won't go away.
I can lightly scratch my Flex 2 with a razor blade and then watch it actually repair that scratch in about 2 minutes, it's somewhat freaky when it happens but it does actually work. Here's a video that goes a bit farther than most people would encounter in terms of abuse but it makes the point:
So, I got no issues with plastic at all - and if it does encounter some serious abuse, I can replace the back cover for a few bucks - ain't gonna replace the back of an iPhone on the cheap, that's for damned sure.
As for the 820 I'm sure it's a better processor, but I don't play games on my smartphone and nothing I do actually do requires that kind of power. I keep my Flex 2 "capped" with 2 cores from the little side and 2 cores from the big side (since it's an octa core device it has the big.LITTLE architecture) and I get roughly 80% more battery life with 8-10 hours of screen on time and I charge it once every 2+ days with the Snapdragon 810 it has. Never had overheating issues, never noticed any throttling, etc.
Works for me, and since I paid $25 for it I'm pretty sure I'm doing well in my situation.
I used to care a little bit. But I gone logitech harmony. And that just works so much better. I used to have the harmony ultimate one, but the battery life on that is horrible; it lasts like a day! So I replace it with a harmony companion (hub and a regular-esque non-touch remote). It's the greatest combo, cause I can also use my phone to control the hub.It's not my criteria, but people want Premium Feel, and I guess cases are heresy. While lack of expandable storage is forgiven. Or I would not get hung up by IR blaster missing but I do use it on my TV switching to Roku, etc.
I'd rather buy Honor 8 than this. Google always makes some annoying compromises for their devices.
I'm still happy with my Honor 6 though so maybe when Honor 9 comes out... I might consider upgrading. EMUI 5 is supposed to have some nice improvements like option to separate app launcher from desktop.
I'm totally blown away by Huawei's software support. I didn't expect them to support this for two years and this Honor 6 is running Android 6.0 nicely and everything works better than ever. Samsung left my Galaxy S (the first one) in terrible state. It was basically unusable without custom rom.
Yeah? Huawei's sub brand.Honor?
As I said above, I was blown away by the snappiness of the Honor 8 when I played with the store demo recently. It was sitting next to a 6P, and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't faster to open apps.Yeah? Huawei's sub brand.
By the way, Huawei has managed to grab pretty large market share here in Finland (when I bought the Honor 6 two years ago that wasn't the case). They are also recruiting tech people here (likely trying to grab former Nokia employees).
My Honor 6 has aged really well. That 3GB of RAM sure does help with that... It has microSD slot, 3000 mAh battery, supports 300 Mbit LTE-A networks and has IR blaster. All that for 299 € two years ago.
Yeah? Huawei's sub brand.
By the way, Huawei has managed to grab pretty large market share here in Finland (when I bought the Honor 6 two years ago that wasn't the case). They are also recruiting tech people here (likely trying to grab former Nokia employees).
My Honor 6 has aged really well. That 3GB of RAM sure does help with that... It has microSD slot, 3000 mAh battery, supports 300 Mbit LTE-A networks and has IR blaster. All that for 299 € two years ago.