24" Widescreen CRT (FW900) From Ebay arrived,Comments.

paradox4040 said:
Well this guy.... He doesn't want to sell it anymore lol.
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Just get a 21 inch FD Trinitron and be done with it. Yeah, you give up widescreen but it's not that bad. The top tier GDM monitors are all within spitting distance of each other that it all comes down to personal preference.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
Just get a 21 inch FD Trinitron and be done with it. Yeah, you give up widescreen but it's not that bad. The top tier GDM monitors are all within spitting distance of each other that it all comes down to personal preference.
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Back in the year 2000, I used to reduce my vertical height of my Sony 21" FD trinitron and put my games or film to widescreen, using a box shape as a reference to get close to the aspect...lol good old times. No one has wide screens then.
 
The VCOM DP to VGA adapter arrived today. But for the life of me I cannot get it to run beyond 1280x1024,,, what should I do?
 
Ok with the little white adapter we've been talking about, I just managed to top out at 1920x1200 @ 72hz. I'll try to mess with the timing to get to 80hz. So far text looks a bit crisper. Not mind blowing, but it's a subtle improvement
 
christpunchers said:
Ok with the little white adapter we've been talking about, I just managed to top out at 1920x1200 @ 72hz. I'll try to mess with the timing to get to 80hz. So far text looks a bit crisper. Not mind blowing, but it's a subtle improvement
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How would that adapter do at 1680x1050 or 1792x1080? If it will do 1680x1050 at 90hz that might be enough for me
 
Just an update for those who are interested in this adapter -- I'm maxing it out at 19x12 @ 72hz. 72hz is not that smooth (would love to see how I can sneak in 75 or even 80hz) but the clarity is much better with this adapter. Colors and gradients are much more well defined. Already an improvement over getting a signal directly out of my GTX 680's DVI port.
 
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Hi all,first post but i follow this forum by long time.
I have this beast of monitor since 2007 and other two,F500 and F520,now i have one problem like you,the DAC.
I did a bit of research and found several chipsets for the displayport to vga conversion,most limited by the dac or by displayport lanes
NXP PTN3392 and PTN3393: DAC 180 MHz 24bit, 2 DP lanes HBR
Analogix ANX9832: DAC 178 MHz 24 bit, 2 DP lanes HBR
Analogix ANX9833: DAC 270 MHz 24 bit, 2 DP lanes HBR (this is good but it's limited at 180 MHz by the 2 HBR lanes)
Analogix ANX6211: DAC 270 MHz 24 bit, 2 DP lanes HBR2 (this is the best because it uses 2 HBR2 lanes (360 MHz),so the DAC can express himself)(this chip is suitable for motherboards,don't know if someone has mounted it on adapters)
STDP3160: DAC 162 MHz 32 bit, 2 DP lanes HBR
IT6512FN: DAC 200 MHz 32 bit, 2 DP lanes HBR
Chrontel CH7517: DAC 165 MHz 9 bpp, 2 DP lanes HBR
Some manufacturers specify the type of chipset on datasheets of their adapters,Delock is one of this,but it is very difficult to find informations on these adapters,they are always generic.
I'm very interested on that VCOM adapter from Amazon,it would be interesting to know which chipset it mounts,if someone has the courage to open it.
It is hard to find one in Europe,perhaps knowing the chip can help to find another brand
 
I sent a query to analogix last thursday and they call me on friday. I tell them that their motherboard chipsets ANX6212 support 2560x1600@60Hz, 24bpp but the ANX9833 external seems limited in their specs to 1920x1200@60Hz, 24bpp.

The guy who call me told me that both use the same chipset, so he'd clarify why the externa one had different spec on the website. He's supose to send me an emeail this week with info about this.

If the external one really supports 2560x1600@60Hz, then we have a winner.

also I contacted this people:
:::PTEC:::

they told me that adapter suppors 2560x1600@60Hz. But the don't sell in europe (don't know if they sell to US).
 
It can't be the same chip,product brief is clear

ANX9833:
Two-lane high-speed differential input with configurable speed: 2.7Gbps or 1.62Gbps, total bandwidth up to 5.4Gbps
VGA DAC work range up to 270 MHz,Resolutions up to WUXGA (1920x1200@60Hz,24bpp)

ANX6212:
Two-lane high-speed differential input with configurable speed: 5.4Gbps, 2.7Gbps, or 1.62Gbps
VGA output pixel rate up to 270 MHz,Supports resolutions up to WQXGA (2560x1600@60Hz, 24bpp) (268MHz on a LCD screen)

From Analogix news:
Analogix’s ANX621X Family line addresses the continued need for VGA connectivity with a selection of three DisplayPort receiver chips, all fully compliant with VESA® DisplayPort 1.2 and Embedded DisplayPort eDP v1.3 standards. Their high bit-rate (HBR2) 5.4 gigabits-per-second input reduces power use while maximizing video resolution and providing interoperability with all VGA-compatible displays.

ANX6212 is a new chip DP 1.2,it has the same dac of ANX9833 but the DP receiver uses 2 lanes HBR2 mode
2 lanes HBR=5.4Gbps,real bandwidth without encoding overhead 4.32Gbps/24bit=180MHz Max
2 lanes HBR2=10.8Gbps,real bandwidth without encoding overhead 8.64Gbps/24 bit=360Mhz Max

I have a Startech adapter (MDP2VGA2),from the product brief it mounts ANX9833,i tested it and can't pass 180 MHz pixel clock,i've reached 179.992 MHz
Does anyone know a way to overclock DisplayPort lanes?(i have seen a pixel clock patch for AMD and Nvidia,but not for DP)

About that PTEC adapter,it says pixel rate up to 270MHz,resolutions up to2560x1600@60HZ,but 2 lane high speed differential input with configurable speed: 2.7Gbps or 1.62Gbps,so it is DP 1.1,HBR and 180 MHz limited.
Descriptions of these adapters are always a mess.
VCOM adapter says resolution up to 1920x1200@60HZ,DAC 162MHz,but those who have tested it say that it reaches 236MHz

ANX6212 with its 270MHz DAC can reach on FW900 1920x1200@85Hz and 1920x1080@95 with little reduced blanking
It costs 3 dollars,someone has to take this chip and build an adapter,maybe HDFURY can do it,and sell it at max 30 dollars.
 
igsux3 said:
1920x1200 @ 96 hz is 323 MHz. Just waiting for someone to make this >330 Mhz adapter.
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So Just out of curiosity, if the new HDfury V is going to be 400MHZ ramdac, does that mean possibly we could see 1920x1200 @120hz? or does that go past the 121khz rating on the fw900?

I dont know the equations offf top my head to do the math right now.
 
DooLocsta said:
Do any of these adapters work at 1280x1024 @ 110hz
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That would be 211.42 MHz, so I guess with any 270Mhz adapter there would be no problem. Also 1280x1024 is 5:4 resolution ratio and none of CRT is like that. You should rather use 1280x960 or 1600x1200 for 4:3 CRTs or something around 1600x1000 for 16:10 CRT.


paradox4040 said:
I got so lucky today I can't believe it. I was searching the local "craigslist" (its called olx here) and found Sony FW900 for a fucking 35 euro in perfect condition woohoo :)
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Wow what a luck, original packaging, original antiglare, all for 35 eur. Can't tell how jelly I am. What country do you live in?

Mumble said:
So Just out of curiosity, if the new HDfury V is going to be 400MHZ ramdac, does that mean possibly we could see 1920x1200 @120hz? or does that go past the 121khz rating on the fw900?
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1920x1200 at 96hz is absolute maximum for FW900's 121khz. In fact it is little beyond using 121.7 kHz. All DVI-I enabled cards have 400MHz ramdac.


By the way last powerful cards with DVI-I prices are dropping fast. 980Ti for $450 and Titan X for $530 are becoming more and more common.
 
I'm from Bulgaria. That site "olx" is full with all kind of CRT monitors and TVs but no one wants them and they are going so cheap. The woman I got the monitor from was actually asking for 25 euro but I gave her 35 :D

btw this monitor is so freaking sharp its really close to LCD when you read text and such.

Some back story - the woman got the monitor back in 2004 for a whooping 2,400 USD and used it for pre-printing till 2007 and since then it was sitting in the box. She was moving out and didn't want the monitor in her new place.
 
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Congrats on the find paradox4040! I just got an Acer xb271hu to compliment my FW900 lineup. Crazy how my 14 year old FW900s side by side still have the edge in depth, motion blur, and input lag for sure. The input lag in twitch gaming is GODLIKE on the FW900.
 
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eztower said:
Do any DisplayPort to VGA adapters exist yet that can do 1680X1050 @ 100Hz ?

I saw this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-c...e=UTF8&qid=1467298577&sr=8-2&keywords=DP2VGA3 and asked startech support and they said it was limited to 1920x1200 @ 60Hz but that it may do 1680X1050 @ 100Hz ....anyone tried that adapter?

Since i bought my AMD 290X my FW900 has been sat on the floor unused for over 2.5 years :(
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I have Mini Displayport version of that adapter,it has 180 MHz maximum pixel clock (if it has the same chipset)
It can do:
1440x900 @ 95Hz
1600x900 @ 85Hz
1600x1000 @ 80Hz
1680x1050 @ 72Hz
If you want a better converter try the VCOM christpunchers has linked in the previous page (that can do 236MHz max pixel clock)
With that you can do 1680x1050 @ 92Hz
All these settings can be incremented a little reducing the blanking signal
 
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Hi.

Just arrived my VCOM adapter today. Really decent adapter, very sharp. Already tested:

1600x1200 85hz
1600x1000 100hz
1680x1050 90hz
1920x1200 70hz
 
Derupter said:
I have Mini Displayport version of that adapter,it has 180 MHz maximum pixel clock (if it has the same chipset)
It can do:
1440x900 @ 95Hz
1600x900 @ 85Hz
1600x1000 @ 80Hz
1680x1050 @ 72Hz
If you want a better converter try the VCOM christpunchers has linked in the previous page (that can do 236MHz max pixel clock)
With that you can do 1680x1050 @ 92Hz
All these settings can be incremented a little reducing the blanking signal
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So basically with these adapters its all about how high the pixel clock is?...so close to 100Hz at 1680x1050 too... maybe in another year there will be one that supports that resolution at 100Hz properly and i can use my FW900 along side my 2 samsung monitors with all 3 running at 1680X1050 @ 100Hz for some eyefinity gaming.
 
well, i have decided to remove the anti glare coating based on many good coments i have read about doing it on many different places on the internet, and when it seems the display got a little brighter, unfortunatelly blacks are non existant anymore. as a matter of fact the tube does not look black anymore even when the monitor is turned off, it now looks grayish :(

it makes me regret removing the coating, i was able to remove it in one piece but it is quite bendy and dusted to try to place it back.
so anyone know if is there is some place to buy this coating or a similar one? or any recomendations please?
thank you ;)
 
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As has been said before, removing antiglare coating is a good idea only if you can operate the unit in a light controlled environment. Also, after removing it, you should do a WPB in WinDAS to recalibrate the luminance.
 
thanks for your reply spacediver, from what i understand, the WPB requires a colorimeter device, is this correct? if is it, for economical and availabilitiy reasons a cannot get one of those. so is there a way to recalibrate only that iluminance without those devices? i only have the ttl to usb and windas.
before removing the coating the monitor had excelent black white and colors for my tastes and i really did not need to remove the coating it was sracthed but nothing dramatic, i got tempted by the comentaries and my curiosity is costing me hard on this, so i would only like to recover the blacks.
whites and colors are currently good but when watching things on screen with black or dark tones now look a little grayish
 
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You can tweak things without a colorimeter, by manually changing the values of dat file, for example, lowering G2 as shown in this video

However, I strongly recommend purchasing a colorimeter, and following the instructions in the WPB guide. In the guide are instructions on how to choose a colorimeter. You can pick a DTP-94 (aka MonacoOptix XR) for very cheap online. There's one right now listed for $25 on the bay.
 
Yeah, follow spacediver's recommendation. I would agree to keep the anti glare coating on. Unless you can light control like a boss, it's not worth the removal.
 
amlett said:
Hi.

Just arrived my VCOM adapter today. Really decent adapter, very sharp. Already tested:

1600x1200 85hz
1600x1000 100hz
1680x1050 90hz
1920x1200 70hz
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Apart from the speed,did you see image quality differences between the Startech and VCOM?
 
Didn't play around with the Startech. As soon as I saw it didn't go over 1920x1080@60, I returned it. But this VCOM gives very good IQ.
 
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