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He is the classic gamer bro "all his pc upgrades come from Best Buy" type. He doesn't know any better. In fact when I first saw his reply my initial reaction was not one of announce but .. sadness. He literally cannot stop from blurting out shit like that. No serious, ask him. He will tell you "I don't know why I do that."
Ms Push to get people to Windows 10 is to the point of being suspicious. Of what, I don't know.
Now they are calling their own previous work, once hearalded as the best OS ever made (and possibly true) total shit because they want you to upgrade. For Free. To windows 10.
Something isn't adding up here for me.
So you keep Linux at whatever the current version is but see a problem with keeping Windows up to date?
Just stop..much like my comment for MS to stop making shit up, same applies to the linux crowd. Linux isn't a viable option for most people and likely never will be. So let us cut the bullshit already and quit pretending like linux is even remotely viable for more than 5-10% of all PC users.
Not even close. I'm actually the guy that gets called to fix the PC's after all the idiot techs who use a bunch of third party programs have screwed it up to the point of their only solution is "Reinstall". Here is a protip, 99% of the time a windows reinstall isn't necessary or even prudent. It is a lazy way of dealing with problems. Much like using crap like GWX is a lazy way of dealing with win 10 popups that are easily disabled in about 10 seconds by anyone who knows how to use a search engine. Furthermore every single feature of GWX is again easily done by anyone who has more than a passing knowledge of windows. It is a lazy tool for people who can't be bothered to learn the OS. Sorry but I don't advocate the use of most third party "Tech utilities" any longer. Most of them are sloppily coded and fraught with security programs, not to mention almost never come from a trustworthy source.
Sorry to ruin your silly little preconceived notion about me.
Not even close. I'm actually the guy that gets called to fix the PC's after all the idiot techs who use a bunch of third party programs have screwed it up to the point of their only solution is "Reinstall". Here is a protip, 99% of the time a windows reinstall isn't necessary or even prudent. It is a lazy way of dealing with problems. Much like using crap like GWX is a lazy way of dealing with win 10 popups that are easily disabled in about 10 seconds by anyone who knows how to use a search engine. Furthermore every single feature of GWX is again easily done by anyone who has more than a passing knowledge of windows. It is a lazy tool for people who can't be bothered to learn the OS. Sorry but I don't advocate the use of most third party "Tech utilities" any longer. Most of them are sloppily coded and fraught with security programs, not to mention almost never come from a trustworthy source.
Sorry to ruin your silly little preconceived notion about me.
Opened this thread to read all the delusional FUD about Microsoft; did not disappoint.
Enterprises, many of which still cannot migrate from XP due to incompatible software, will have a good laugh at this.
There's really nothing wrong with being lazy when it comes to a computer. It's just some silly gadget that's supposed to save people time so taking whatever shortcuts work for the individual at the keyboard really gets to the heart of why computers even exist in the first place. Like, for me, I didn't wanna bother with a 3rd party way to get rid of GWX so on the only Windows computer I have left, I just didn't install the update that contains the nagware. Not everyone works like that and getting upset about how someone else uses their computer that you don't even know...um...is that even reasonable? And really, I'd rather spend an hour reinstalling an OS than six hours finding a solution so at some point in doing research to solve a problem, you get to this situation where you reach like diminishing returns on your effort and, if you're supporting a user community, you totally are like, "Mkay, time to reload the company's OS image from a thumb drive. It'll be done in 20 mins and then you'll need another 10 mins to get your preferences back from the script thing-y that copies the stuff back down from the SAN."
I think what we are talking about is something much different than what's going on in your head. and that's cool. I just don't think we are following you here.
Microsoft is being very aggressive with this Windows 10 and if you look at the business model behind Windows 10 is certainly looks to be all about market data, how they can leverage that, financially, etc. And, you know, at the end of the day, it's their product, they can do what they want but for many, it's not so black and white and that's where I come in.
For the last 7 or 8 weeks, I've been making around, I dunno, I guess 10 - 12, sometimes fewer house calls to either, work on site or pickup and delivery for customers that don't want Windows 10 on their new PC's or they tried it out and they won't to go back to Windows 7, or tricked into installing it, whatever the case my be.
And as far as the apps go that help to curtail those types of continued relentless invasions of a users home PC 'Windows 10" they do serve a purpose. So I am not sure I really understand your rant.
All I do is put back what they owner wants and I make sure it stays that way. And I have to say business is great.
Windows 7 does not feature the Microsoft Store. They have no way to monetise Windows 7. Microsoft wants everyone to buy All The Apps on the Microsoft Store.
Opened this thread to read all the delusional FUD Microsoft said; did not disappoint.
Running XP in an enterprise environment in 2016 is irresponsible to the point of representing gross incompetence on the part of the IT department./
I'd rather listen to a Best Buy blue-shirt's advice about computer security than a chief of marketing at Microsoft who is suggesting the latest OS they make. I think the same was said about Vista and similar BS from marketing about Win 2000 being inappropriate for a home user vs ME.
No, it's usually due to gross incompetence of the management that doesn't want to spend any money updating applications or hardware.
As an IT person I've pushed as much as I can, even managing to get the last 2 old application working on Windows 7. Now they need to spend money to replacing the apps to go to anything newer.
I don't care what an individual does on their personal computer. I care when a self professed tech who is "charging money" takes shortcuts on their customers.
This Forbes article references a recent chat over at Windows Weekly, in which Microsofts marketing chief explains that those of you who still use Windows 7 do so at your own risk, at your own peril. What could Microsoft's motive possibly be?
We do worry when people are running an operating system thats 10 years old that the next printer they buy isnt going to work well, or they buy a new game, they buy Fallout 4, a very popular game, and it doesnt work on a bunch of older machines, Capossela stated. And so, as we are pushing our ISV [Independent Software Vendor] and hardware partners to build great new stuff that takes advantage of Windows 10 that obviously makes the old stuff really bad and not to mention viruses and security problems.
malware
its just a utility that automates tedious settings. the same type of people who have automatic updates enabled & got "duped" into installing w10 are not going to be savvy enough to investigate inevitable future updates that MS will push through to toggle the "upgrade" checks. the monitor mode of this utility is genuinely helpful.
i just dont get quite where youre coming from, even though youve stated your position quite clearly it seems incongruous. are you gonna call spybot anti-beacon malware next?
No, it's usually due to gross incompetence of the management that doesn't want to spend any money updating applications or hardware.
Devil's advocate here. So when I have an expensive piece of lab equipment that costs into the six figures (whose software only runs on Windows XP), what then? If the piece of equipment is solid, reliable, and is making my company lots of money, why would I risk upgrading just because my IT guy says I should? Surely, you, Mr. IT man would lock it down and keep it from accessing anything outside the LAN?
Makes me wonder how many old games that will break in 10 but will work in 7.We do worry when people are running an operating system thats 10 years old that the next printer they buy isnt going to work well, or they buy a new game, they buy Fallout 4, a very popular game, and it doesnt work on a bunch of older machines,
There is a marked difference between useful utility and lazy utility.
Windows 7 isn't 10 years old though. FO4 works fine on W7. I love how this guy has no idea what he's talking about.
Ok look..I get it, you want me to upgrade to 10. I have on my mobile devices and most of my desktops. However reality is my primary desktop I still use WMC sometimes and have ZERO reason to downgrade. I don't have too many complaints about win10 as I'm not an idiot and it isn't hard to turn off the spying. That all said, Don't make shit up and try to convince me that Win7 is something that it isn't..Seriously those of us hanging on to Win7 aren't stupid. I would argue that most of us are probably far more educated when it comes to windows than most and have very very good reasons for not upgrading.
TLDR: Fuck off MS, stop making shit up.
I don't care what an individual does on their personal computer. I care when a self professed tech who is "charging money" takes shortcuts on their customers.
My rant is about you taking money from people and running a half assed program. If you are going to call yourself a tech and charge people money, then fix it right and uninstall and hide the update as well as leave the customer information on what update was hidden as well as how to undo it in the future. I don't care a bit about you rolling them back to Win 7, give them what they want. I get irritated at all the shortcuts "techs" today take because I've spent years cleaning up the messes all those shortcuts make. Sure this one might not make any particular messes, but it still doesn't excuse it when there is a right way that actually takes the same period of time.