I predicted by the end of the year AMD would be at 20%. It appears it's below that well before the end of the year. Houston, we got a problem.
Source: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/47105/amds-gpu-market-share-drops-again-even-release-fury/index.html
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I really hope they turn it around sooner than later. I'm sure they will but it needs to be quick so that the progression of GPU technology doesn't go stale. I want to see some heavy weight fights for the top spot again.
How do you propose they turn it around? Is Santa money bags going to show up with $10 billion in cash? Because if not, they have no chance.
I didn't propose anything. I said "I hope." As much as some of the fanboy kiddies around here would love to see AMD tank, I would not. I want them hitting Nvidia back as hard as they can. As the younglings around here mature and grow out of their little kid ways, they will see that competition is good for business as well as progression.
"Kiddies" "younglings" gimme a break. Yes we can all wax philosophical about how great it would be if unicorns existed and AMD had boatloads of money and market parity with NVIDIA. But in reality, that hope of yours means nothing. If you really want to see AMD survive, then you should hope someone in their management team pulls their head out of their ass sooner than later and gets out of the discrete GPU market because its dragging them down.
As much as this is a shitty situation, and in no way means good things for consumers... Godamn if AMD can't make ONE godamn good choice in the history of the company. Its like AMD is run by a round table of chimps.... This is entirely AMD's fault. The CPU market was bribed by Intel, We can all understand that the fall from market was not AMD's choice, but this? This is AMD's fault... and it makes me sad...
Gameworks is not a conspiracy to force people to buy 980ti's. Don't be ridiculous.But hey, anything to make your old card run bad so they can sell you a new one.
AMD competes with Nvidia in the same way a nail competes with a hammer.The problem is different...if AMD goes under, Nvidia has no more competition.
Gameworks is not a conspiracy to force people to buy 980ti's. Don't be ridiculous.
When gamers encounter FPS-sapping virtual hair, they turn said virtual hair off. Not immediately go out and drop $600+ on a new GPU.AMD competes with Nvidia in the same way a nail competes with a hammer.
AMD hasn't been competitive in years, yet the Nvida nightmare scenario hasn't happened.
And your proof of this conspiracy is Crysis 2, a game that game out in 2011?And Nvidia has gimped their previous generation of cards by increasing tessellation.
AMD hasn't been competitive in years, yet the Nvida nightmare scenario hasn't happened.
Nvidia's biggest competitor is actually Nvidia from last year. Thats why they cripple their old cards' performance: there isn't many reasons for a 780 Ti user to upgrade to the 980 Ti based on raw performance, but the 980 Ti will continue to run games well, while the 780 Ti runs about as fast as a 960 in new GameWorks titles. Gotta sell 'dem cards somehow! Without AMD: the only option to play modern games is to give Nvidia however much they ask.
And your proof of this conspiracy is Crysis 2, a game that game out in 2011?
Hairworks, judging by the analysis of the title, is using 64X tessellation factor. But comments from the community have pointed out that even if you scale it back to 16X, there is no change in the quality but the performance is substantially improved. Not just on Radeon hardware, but on NVIDIAs own Kepler architecture as well.
Of course Maxwell has more powerful tessellation than Kepler does, and of course they want to promote their newest graphics cards but its coming at the expense not just of Radeon, but the previous generation of NVIDIAs hardware as well.
Read more at http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/20...issues-for-the-witcher-3/#WdMApyyBeHPrGpg1.99
Somehow I doubt that is accurate. So ~15% of AMD users replaced their video cards in ~ 8 months? Most people only upgrade once every 2-3 years, so I find it hard to believe over half of those with AMD cards did in under a year. Or they stopped using them/went to integrated. No doubt their market share is sliding, but I don't think people are suddenly upgrading this quick either.
About the competition thing, while Nvidia can raise prices they can only do it so much I would think. If it becomes too expensive for 16 year old kids to get into PC gaming even more will gravitate towards consoles, where profit margins are much lower. And they'll grow up without ever knowing or caring about PC gaming. Obviously some will, but less overall.
Somehow, all those launch issues were resolved via game patches and driver updates - just like every single AAA title that's been released on PC since...forever.Did you miss the witcher 3?
Somehow the game had really bad issues on pre-maxwell hardware that went unnoticed by Nvidia until after all the reviews and benchmarks were out... wonder why.
Relative performance statistics have no place in this conspiracy thread. Take your facts somewhere else.The relative performance drop in enabling hairworks (the Gameworks feature) is essentially the same with Kepler and Maxwell 2.0
Well, Charlie claims that there's a big AMD financial "change" coming shortly.
Wow this is the end result of nvidias anti-competitive middleware! my hope is dx12 murders gameworks and graphical middle-ware schemes like it.
nv was able to do that cause amd doesn't lock their optimizations behind a layer of proprietary middleware. If amd wants to fix a driver for a gameworks title however tough cookies go pound sand as the developer is under contract not to share any code with amd.
Devs can and will just move on to Gameworks in Direct X 12 games. With AMD falling so far behind, it makes sense for a developer to accept Nvidias free help toward making their game play better for most users.
Everyone here should be very worried about a monopoly in the gpu market, it's a bad thing on so many levels.
Nvidia knows that it's getting a larger piece of a shrinking pie. They're trying to branch out into other markets because they see what the future holds for them if they stand still.
As continuously mentioned, there already has been a basic monopoly for quite a while, so I'm not worried. You know what is also bad for consumers? A company that utterly fails compete, comes out with lackluster products time after time, and lies to it's customers. They deserve everything they're getting. You reap what you sow. If you guys want competition, you should be rooting for Intel to start producing dGPUs, or for Samsung to. You should not be rooting for AMD to continue on.
within 5-10 year dgpu's will be dead and nv with it. nv knows this and are grasping for w/e straws they can to remain relevant
within 5-10 year dgpu's will be dead and nv with it. nv knows this and are grasping for w/e straws they can to remain relevant
but you aren't worried about a monopoly, because any monopolistic company will ensure that they do everything they can in order to stay ahead and advance the industry... right?
You say that like it isn't the correct and wise course of action to take if it were true.
I don't know about any, but Intel sure seems to. They're only slowing down because of hitting a wall in Moore's Law. I also have no reason at this time to think Nvidia won't. Like I said, you want competition? Root for Intel or Samsung to get into the dGPU game - you should not be rooting for AMD with all the shit they have - and/or have not - done.
But we aren't in Nvidia's place. We are in the place that gets screwed by a 1-sided market.
If you guys want competition, you should be rooting for Intel to start producing dGPUs, or for Samsung to. You should not be rooting for AMD to continue on.
I don't know about any, but Intel sure seems to. They're only slowing down because of hitting a wall in Moore's Law. I also have no reason at this time to think Nvidia won't. Like I said, you want competition? Root for Intel or Samsung to get into the dGPU game - you should not be rooting for AMD with all the shit they have - and/or have not - done.
Nothing says we will - you simply fear and/or are assuming we will. Just as much as you could be 100% right, you could be 100% wrong. So as I said multiple times now: