Samsung Galaxy S6

CHANG3D said:
And will it bend?

SquareTrade Shows Samsung S6 Edge as Bendable as iPhone 6 Plus & More Li...: https://youtu.be/3Y7tPczbOec

I doubt I would be able to bend it in my pockets, so it doesn't matter to me. But I'm holding off until I see the S6 Active partially due to the Edge being uncomfortable in the hands. But I intend on putting a case on it, which might make it more holdable.

And an op-ed on the Edge:
http://gizmodo.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-a-quirk-that-doesnt-really-work-1694821006
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I found it interesting that they showed the pressure required to bend the M9 and the Iphone6, but they didn't actually show that for the S6 Edge. I wonder why not? Also the bending it until it folds in half is kind of dumb, of course a pneumatic machine capable of hundreds of pounds of pressure can fold an aluminum and glass slate in half.

Would be interesting to see if the S6 holds up better than the S6 Edge. It looks like the curve in the glass on the edge makes it more prone to shattering when placed under stress while bending.
 
so gsmarena re-ran their battery life benchmark with retail unit
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Erasmus354 said:
I found it interesting that they showed the pressure required to bend the M9 and the Iphone6, but they didn't actually show that for the S6 Edge. I wonder why not? Also the bending it until it folds in half is kind of dumb, of course a pneumatic machine capable of hundreds of pounds of pressure can fold an aluminum and glass slate in half.

Would be interesting to see if the S6 holds up better than the S6 Edge. It looks like the curve in the glass on the edge makes it more prone to shattering when placed under stress while bending.
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Yeah. I think the whole bend test thing is to draw in clicks. You have to be pretty stupid to bend a phone. Most people with even a tiny bit of commn sense would think "these jeans that off circulation to anything below my waste MIGHT not be the best place to stick my phone".
 
Well most tests are not exactly real world but it is suppose to give you some sense of the durability. You aren't looking for the fact the phone bent in half you are looking for the lbs of force required to get it bend, and at what point the bending causes irreversible damage. Then you can say well if one phone takes less force to bend it might be less durable. I much prefer these pressure based tests then the stupid let me throw it on the ground and see what happens tests which are not even remotely reproducible and definitely yield random results from one person dropping an S6 and it cracking to another one slamming them on the ground and nothing happening. We just need someone who uses a device to measure impact on phones accurately.
 
Does the screen issue affect the regular S6? Or have only batches of Edge units been scratched up?
 
lloose said:
Yeah. I think the whole bend test thing is to draw in clicks. You have to be pretty stupid to bend a phone. Most people with even a tiny bit of commn sense would think "these jeans that off circulation to anything below my waste MIGHT not be the best place to stick my phone".
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Not sure.... that dude in Toronto that bent those iPhone 6+'s wasn't very buff and he EASILY bent them.
 
lloose said:
Yeah. I think the whole bend test thing is to draw in clicks. You have to be pretty stupid to bend a phone. Most people with even a tiny bit of commn sense would think "these jeans that off circulation to anything below my waste MIGHT not be the best place to stick my phone".
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The issue with bending, and what has brought it to the forefront is that the iPhone6+ bent in a guys loose front pocket. Pretty standard use case. A couple of other reports came in with similar situations. Voila, bendgate. It wasn't chicks in skinny jeans sitting on their phone and it bending.

As these phones are getting thinner and lighter their ability to hold up to everyday common usage scenarios is starting to come into question more and more.
 
That's a pretty good summary. The issue isn't with any specific vendor, it's whether devices are getting thinner without advances in design to keep them sturdy. I don't think bending is a significant issue for either Apple or Samsung... if you're really, truly worried, get a case.
 
No SD card, non removable battery, I passed and got a S5 today instead.

I don't understand what would make them go that route. Is it because the nexus devices are made that way or what?

Sure the S6 will sell better then the nexus devices but damn why fix it if it ain't broke
 
Bman123 said:
No SD card, non removable battery, I passed and got a S5 today instead.

I don't understand what would make them go that route. Is it because the nexus devices are made that way or what?

Sure the S6 will sell better then the nexus devices but damn why fix it if it ain't broke
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It's because the majority of people want a premium build. And that means glass and/or aluminum.

And most people don't care for microSD and removable batteries.

PeeWeePee said:
so gsmarena re-ran their battery life benchmark with retail unit
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That's even more impressive than the demo unit.
So I guess the demo units were overclocked?
 
This phone is going to be all over craigslist with broken glass within 6 months. The glass back idea is stupid as hell. It's a clear copy off of apple, and I'm not a apple guy so no fan boy stuff going on here.

I like micro sd, I like removable batteries. What happens if your battery dies in 13 months and you have no warranty left? I'd rather be able to buy a new battery for $20 and just put it in myself.

This whole premium feel is a joke. I've got a S5 it feels like a toy just like their other phones all made out of plastic. Now they use metal and glass in a phone and the sheep flock to it
 
Bman123 said:
This phone is going to be all over craigslist with broken glass within 6 months. The glass back idea is stupid as hell. It's a clear copy off of apple, and I'm not a apple guy so no fan boy stuff going on here.

I like micro sd, I like removable batteries. What happens if your battery dies in 13 months and you have no warranty left? I'd rather be able to buy a new battery for $20 and just put it in myself.

This whole premium feel is a joke. I've got a S5 it feels like a toy just like their other phones all made out of plastic. Now they use metal and glass in a phone and the sheep flock to it
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GS6 has a pretty easy way to replace a battery. It's in the manual. Most people still should take the phone to a fix it, fast fix, or a quick fix shop though.
 
CHANG3D said:
GS6 has a pretty easy way to replace a battery. It's in the manual. Most people still should take the phone to a fix it, fast fix, or a quick fix shop though.
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..."Pretty easy", in the "you-need-a-heat-gun-and-a-pair-of-forceps-and a-jeweler's-screwdriver" kind of way. And the only place you'll get a battery is online.
 
Bman123 said:
This phone is going to be all over craigslist with broken glass within 6 months. The glass back idea is stupid as hell. It's a clear copy off of apple, and I'm not a apple guy so no fan boy stuff going on here.

I like micro sd, I like removable batteries. What happens if your battery dies in 13 months and you have no warranty left? I'd rather be able to buy a new battery for $20 and just put it in myself.

This whole premium feel is a joke. I've got a S5 it feels like a toy just like their other phones all made out of plastic. Now they use metal and glass in a phone and the sheep flock to it
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The sheep will flock to Samsung and Apple.

This has always been the case for the last ~5 years.
 
#bendgate going viral.

Anyway I think bending tests are pointless. Most people don't sit on their phones.

It's an impractical test.
 
Bman123 said:
I like micro sd, I like removable batteries. What happens if your battery dies in 13 months and you have no warranty left?
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What are you going to do if the phone you do buy happens to have the screen "just die" in the thirteen month? No phone has a replaceable screen uh oh!
 
Finally, now everyone knows which phone to buy if you want to run it over with a car.
 
WarpDrive said:
How is it a silly test?

The S6 vs S6 Edge is a legit question for millions of people out there.
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Cali3350 said:
Add in the $100 difference and ask again :D
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Also worth noting that for god knows what reason. Actually I do know what reason.....Samsung chose to completely rewrite the code for the Edge screen so ALL the Edge progs for the Note Edge from Edge SDK that have been written are completely incompatible with the S6 Edge....making the whole S6 Edge Edge screen a gimmick and not much more.
 
Skripka said:
Also worth noting that for god knows what reason. Actually I do know what reason.....Samsung chose to completely rewrite the code for the Edge screen so ALL the Edge progs for the Note Edge from Edge SDK that have been written are completely incompatible with the S6 Edge....making the whole S6 Edge Edge screen a gimmick and not much more.
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The Note Edge and S6 Edge Are completely different designs. Samsung changing things around like this just ensures most non-Samsung apps won't bother supporting the features for either design moving forward.
 
mi7chy said:
11% is a small premium for a modern design that feels more natural for swiping and that looks better than anything else on the market.
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It's not 11% for most people, it's $100 upfront when they buy the phone on a two year contract.
 
ocellaris said:
It's not 11% for most people, it's $100 upfront when they buy the phone on a two year contract.
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Spread across two year contract it's like $4 per month premium which is the cost of a cup of coffee but considering Samsung future proofing it's good for four years so it lowers it to $2. My 2012 Note II is easily good for another year or more if I throw CM12 on it but the dual edge design is fresh and worthy of upgrade making other phones boring in comparison.
 
mi7chy said:
Spread across two year contract it's like $4 per month premium which is the cost of a cup of coffee but considering Samsung future proofing it's good for four years so it lowers it to $2. My 2012 Note II is easily good for another year or more if I throw CM12 on it but the dual edge design is fresh and worthy of upgrade making other phones boring in comparison.
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What is this Samsung future proofing you speak of that magically stretches the life to 4 years?
 
ocellaris said:
The Note Edge and S6 Edge Are completely different designs. Samsung changing things around like this just ensures most non-Samsung apps won't bother supporting the features for either design moving forward.
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They could have made the SDK cover both platforms...instead they assured the Edge display will be a useless gimmick no one really develops anything useful for.
 
Skripka said:
They could have made the SDK cover both platforms...instead they assured the Edge display will be a useless gimmick no one really develops anything useful for.
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edge screen is in still experiment stage so shouldnt expect great functionality especially from Samsung.... at least they are trying something new
 
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PeeWeePee said:
edge screen is in still experiment stage so pointless to expect great functionality especially from Samsung.... at least they are trying something new
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I don't think I'd call putting a feature (with gimmick SDK backing) on Sammy's most mainline flagship device and further giving it title-branding and pricing differentiation, "experimental stage". IMHO.
 
I needed a new phone and ive never had a samsung phone before so i bought the s6 edge. It will be here tomorrow. Im hoping it will live up to the hype.
 
Skripka said:
Also worth noting that for god knows what reason. Actually I do know what reason.....Samsung chose to completely rewrite the code for the Edge screen so ALL the Edge progs for the Note Edge from Edge SDK that have been written are completely incompatible with the S6 Edge....making the whole S6 Edge Edge screen a gimmick and not much more.
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It's a functional thing. The aspect ratio on the S6 Edge is narrower, so you can't really do a separate strip without cutting significantly into the usable screen space. Now, why it chose that aspect ratio is another matter, but I suspect it's to both maintain consistency with the regular GS6 form factor and provide a better grip.

Having used both phones, I think the GS6 Edge is more honest as why its curve exists -- it's there to look cool. The Note Edge strip feels like Samsung is trying too hard to justify what's ultimately a cosmetic feature, and the experience takes a hit as a result.
 
Wait... a blog OWNED by samsung says a negative news report is false, and you take it at face value? THE BLOG IS OWNED BY SAMSUNG. :rolleyes:
 
NEW battery test results out!
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-galaxy-s6-edge-battery-life-tests/

Modern SuperAMOLED QHD displays are more power efficient and have superior IQ than any other 4.7-5.1" 1080P display in the world, including the iPhone 6's.

More so, real world testing of the production version of the S6 shows that it beats the iPhone 6 in battery life in all categories, despite using a 2560x1440 resolution and, more accurate and brighter panel!

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HTC's One M9's S810 + 1080P LCD combination is a total disaster when it comes to WiFi/video playback battery life and the screen itself is worse in every way too.

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Samsung S6 also has superior sunlight visibility outdoors than the iPhone 5/5S/6 and is world's apart from that horrid 1080P LCD of the HTC One M9:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_vs_htc_one_m9-review-1233p3.php

"Display Power Consumption The display power was measured using a Linear Regression between Luminance and AC Power with a fully charged battery. Since the displays all have different screen sizes and maximum brightness, the values were also scaled to the same screen brightness (Luminance) and same screen area in order to compare their Relative Power Efficiencies.

Below we compare the Relative Display Power Efficiencies of the Galaxy S6 with the Galaxy S5 and iPhone 6 Smartphones."

In any case, the S6 is easily class leading when it comes to not only performance but also power efficiency. Since we can't separate the Exynos 7420 from the QHD SuperAMOLED screen, it's a moot point because there is no other phone in this class is as fast and brings as much overall battery life and all the other features. Just imagine how impressive the Note 5 will be in the battery department.

Now let's take into account the battery life & relative charging time. Things look even worse for the competitors.

Battery Life / Charging Time as per Phone Arena

Sony Z3 = 9 hours 29 min / 235 minutes
Samsung S6 = 7 hours 14 min / 78 minutes
iPhone 6 Plus = 6 hours 32 min / 171 minutes
HTC One M9 = 6 hours 25 min / 106 minutes
iPhone 6 = 5 hours 22 min / 147 minutes
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sa..._id3965/page/4

Granted, a lot of phone users charge their phone at work or overnight. However, they don't even have the 4 hours charge in 10 min or 50% charge in 30 min features. Overall, as you can see the competitors are getting absolutely destroyed when it comes to the balance of battery life + charging time. When you look at things from that perspective, it's not even close in terms of real world convenience. The iPhone 6, the #1 competitor, looks absolutely terrible in comparison (2.45 hours of charging time to get less than 5.5 hours of on screen battery life) and yet millions of people bought it....
 
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entropism said:
Wait... a blog OWNED by samsung says a negative news report is false, and you take it at face value? THE BLOG IS OWNED BY SAMSUNG. :rolleyes:
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My bad. I assumed everyone knows how to Google search. Read the original story and the BS indicator lights up like a Xmas tree with convenient half split of attendees, participants are iPhone owners and getting paid US$4.80 to be Samsung's sheep. I thought owning an iPhone in China was a way to show that you're better off than the typical mainland Chinese. Where's the dignity? Plus, one has to be mentally challenged to read that and pass it on as legit news.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20150405000006&cid=1102&MainCatID=0
 
Skripka said:
I don't think I'd call putting a feature (with gimmick SDK backing) on Sammy's most mainline flagship device and further giving it title-branding and pricing differentiation, "experimental stage". IMHO.
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Its probably an 'experiment' at the scale Samsung operates, no one can possibly keep track of the number of models and variants they make. The Note Edge didn't do very well, so they're having a 2nd go at it.

We'll know its a successful experiment when other oem's, esp LG, start to copy the edge design.
 
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