Ok I finished Aliens Colonial Marines for you guys.

piscian18

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Figured I'd save everyone the trouble and burn through it myself. about 2/4 -3/4 of the way through I got both graphical mods installed.

Before I go any further I should note that I'm the guy around here that will defend any game if I feel like the developers tried or did something creative and worthwhile.

This game is what you've heard it was. It's just plain old garbage. It isn't just that the graphics and gameplay are old(we'd discussed in another thread I believe this was developed on the framework for FEAR EP which was made by the same developer.) The Story is just plain atrocious. There are short, very short segments where this game starts to be fun, but then just drones on into boredom. You even start backtracking near the end.

Having finished it I find it clear that this game was cobbled together likely in a 6 month period. Both the story and the way the chapters flow don't add up. Like bad fan fiction. This isn't like Homefront which I kinda enjoyed or FarCrap 2 or Bioshit 2 both of which were "Complete" games. If you play this game you are basically playing an unfinished MOD. I wouldn't even call it a game. There are "Almost" 3 bosses that in any other game would be called mini-bosses or quicktime events. The game just ends. No explanation, no climax or epilogue. It's just 10 or so short chapters of crap lifted from Aliens.

It's worth minor note yes the mods improve the lighting and smooth things out a bit but that's it. It removes the unbareble high contrast washout you've seen in some gameplay videos. The game still looks on par with FEAR which I immediately thought of when I first started playing. Due to the fact that this was cobbled together the AI just works well in some chapters and others it's broken.

Sorry I'm rambling, just trying to put together thoughts. The main thing is whatever Gearbox "Fixes", if anything at all, avoid anything but a complete remake of the entire game. Because it's not finished. You'd be buying/playing chunks of a game.

As for the Story also garbage. If these idiots would learn to fucking read up on the source material Alien 3 isn't even canon in the James Cameron/Ridley Scott universe and neither is Resurrection. I'm not commenting on their quality. It is what it is. Neither is actually canon. They've mentioned it a couple times in interviews etc. They were films made by FOX and no Aliens fan would hold you to them.(except here lol. Good movies I just mean we would have gotten over it if this ignored those.) The big cameo for this film is Hicks. Don't worry he's in the opening intro I ain't spoiling anything. They dance around this stupid issue of him being dead when they don't even have to. Hell even the comicbooks don't consider Alien 3 canon. It doesn't matter because the game ends before they bother have any story with hicks. He just kinda pops in for tea and the game ends about a chapter later.

So there you have it.

TL;DR
Game - looks and plays like a half-assed unfinished expansion pack from FEAR.
Story - Just a couple nonsense cutscenes explaining nothing, adding nothing and going nowhere.

This game doesn't get a score from me because it's not complete Incomplete/10

If you're even curious about the multiplayer don't be. It's meh. People who say they're "having a blast" are trapped in Stockholme syndrome . Slap them and make them play anything else for 5 minutes. I don't care if it's TF2 or COD or BF1942 mods. It's just boring and you'd realize you're only playing it because you paid for it. I give it a month before the servers are dead.

I would really suggest playing AVP2 or AVP 2000. Believe it or not people still play those and they are tons of fun. I wish I could say the same for AVP2010 but it's stuck in matchmaking hell so it's impossible for people to "get together" and play it.

Dear Randy, I hope you fall and hit your head on a coffee table like in Lost Highway. You'll never get another cent from me.

If you want some shots of the mod difference I uploaded a bunch to my profile

http://steamcommunity.com/id/piscia...rt=newestfirst&browsefilter=myfiles&view=grid
 
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The big cameo for this film is Hicks. Don't worry he's in the opening intro I ain't spoiling anything. They dance this stupid issue of him being dead when they don't even have to. Hell even the comicbooks don't consider Alien 3 canon. It doesn't matter because the game ends before they bother have any story with hicks. He just kinda pops in for tea and the game ends about a chapter later

thanks for that info...I was interested in who the surprise cameo was...so does Hicks get back on the dropship with Ripley at the end of the game?
 
If you're even curious about the multiplayer don't be. It's meh. People who say they're "having a blast are trapped in Stockholme syndrome . Slap them and make them play anything else for 5 minutes. I don't care if it's TF2 or COD or BF1942 mods. It's just boring and you'd realize you're only playing it because you paid for it. I give it a month before the servers are dead.

I would really suggest playing AVP2 or AVP 2000. Believe it or not people still play those and they are tons of fun. I wish I could say the same for AVP2010 but it's stuck in matchmaking hell so it's impossible for people to "get together" and play it.

Dear Randy, I hope you fall and hit your head on a coffee table like in Lost Highway. You'll never get another cent from me.

Natural Selection 2 would probably satisfy your craving of alien versus human multiplayer.
 
thanks for that info...I was interested in who the surprise cameo was...so does Hicks get back on the dropship with Ripley at the end of the game?

no, they make some dumbass remark like "so whos body was in the pod?" and hicks says " thats a whole another story" and the game ends about 5 minutes later and no they don't hint that it's gonna be explained in the next game or anything.

(I can't make spoiler tags work so whatever deal!)
 
Who ever said Alien 3 wasn't cannon lied to you. Alien 3 IS cannon. Hence why they call it the Alien Trilogy. The comics that came out before Alien 3 had Newt and Hicks survive with Ripley. If you check out reprints of the comics and novels post Alien 3, they change the names of the character to work with the Alien 3 story line.

Alien 3 is a GREAT ender to the Alien saga. Resurrection can eat it for all I care, along with the AvP movies. If you still think Alien 3 sucks, go watch the assembly cut. It's 20X the movie compared to the theatrical release in 1992. Seriously, go watch it right now, I can wait.

As far as my view point on A:CM, yeah Gearbox fucked up but so did Sega.
http://www.destructoid.com/so-who-the-hell-did-make-aliens-colonial-marines--244939.phtml

The story wasn't bad but it wasn't good. They could have fleshed out the story a lot more and explained more things as well but for one reason or another they didn't. A lot of people are saying this game is terrible but, I didn't think it was too bad. Don't get me wrong, the evidence is pretty clear that it's a bad game but, I have played worse games believe it or not. They did introduce new things to the game that we have been wanting in an Alien game for a long time but shit happened behind the scenes that fucked it up. Am I willing to defend this game? Kinda, but it's pretty hard to defend a polished turd.
 
I enjoyed alien 3 as well, but you need the entire movie to really appreciate it, the original cut made the movie confusing and slow.
 
I also enjoyed Alien 3 but make sure to watch the Restored Workprint Version...much better then the theatrical version
 
Sorry,but Alien 3 wasn't cannon,and it wasn't close to being good. Like they inevitably do,the movie studio tried to wring every last dollar out of the property,which should have ended with Aliens. The movie had nothing new to offer,and was a complete downer. And apparently the same is true with game.
 
Thanks for the honest review / warning... I'll go play AVP on the Atari Jaguar now...
 
It's good Cameron didn't get to make more Aliens films... He wanted Hicks and Ripley and child to be a little family unit... All he has done since then is romance crap, so unless you wanted to see Aliens: the romance trilogy...(Avatar/Titanic...)

Oh and he tried to make it more pure action film. It would have eventually ended up as Aliens:Killing Time 5 (staring Ice T), where Hicks and his ex-marine buddy (have to have marines for some reason!) had to stop a drugs circle (and grow trees, needs some weird enviromental angle) but the Alien Hybrid Super Queen was making shit bad (annnd he didn't like Giger... so it would have probably been a blue weird face lady with 6 fingers) while Newt was having problems with her Alien roommate at college. Ripley was struggling while working the "chick lit" circles. So it's probably best he got removed when he did. :p
 
Sorry,but Alien 3 wasn't cannon,and it wasn't close to being good. Like they inevitably do,the movie studio tried to wring every last dollar out of the property,which should have ended with Aliens. The movie had nothing new to offer,and was a complete downer. And apparently the same is true with game.

Ok, keep telling yourself that. Alien 3 is canon and has been ever since its release in 1992. Obviously you didn't watch the assembly cut either.
 
wtf.. oh man LOL! what the..ahahaha!! jesus fucking christ bro why the hell did you do that? fucking people really hahaha! oh man not even me who works two days a week and got this game for free wouldnt do it, jesus what to say lol! i think you deserve some kind of award for that, something, maybe a beating, probably would put your senses back hahaha! :D :D :D
 
Thanks for the info.
I am very disappointed...
I don't even know if a $5 Steam sale is even worth it at this point...
 
wtf.. oh man LOL! what the..ahahaha!! jesus fucking christ bro why the hell did you do that? fucking people really hahaha! oh man not even me who works two days a week and got this game for free wouldnt do it, jesus what to say lol! i think you deserve some kind of award for that, something, maybe a beating, probably would put your senses back hahaha! :D :D :D

WTF is wrong with you...
 
oops! hey piscian18, c'mon man i wasnt trying to offend you or anything, it just that this caught me unaware, sorry! (oh man i cant believe you played this game untill the end, i'm.. impressed? baffled? seriously, dont know! :D)
 
The moment Aliens 3 pissed on Aliens with Newt and Hicks being unceremoniously killed off right in the beginning that's where I considered it not canon and that's how I feel to this day. Aliens is a two movie series as far as I'm concerned.
 
The moment Aliens 3 pissed on Aliens with Newt and Hicks being unceremoniously killed off right in the beginning that's where I considered it not canon and that's how I feel to this day. Aliens is a two movie series as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, I mean on offense to the guys. I actually liked Alien 3 and yeah I've seen every cut and if you go online the Wood planet monastery artist put all of his stuff online. Scott and Cameron were indeed so unhappy with Newt and hicks death that they stated it wasn't their canon. I think that was supposed to be a factor in hicks return in this game.

I don't know what the meltdown was somebody can clarify this but there was another game that came out a while back in which they were gonna get in deep shit and just shuffled it out the door to meet the deadline but in that case they didn't do any advertising or anything because they were smart enough to avoid critical backlash.

With this long a silence I suspect Gearbox is planning to just let this blowover. Ignore the reviews about this being a bad game. They are miss-wording it. It's literally unfinished. You'll sit there at the end, shrug, and wonder why you spent 5 hours on it when you could have actually played the decent Aliens games we already have.

The story wasn't bad but it wasn't good. They could have fleshed out the story a lot more and explained more things as well but for one reason or another they didn't. A lot of people are saying this game is terrible but, I didn't think it was too bad. Don't get me wrong, the evidence is pretty clear that it's a bad game but, I have played worse games believe it or not. They did introduce new things to the game that we have been wanting in an Alien game for a long time but shit happened behind the scenes that fucked it up. Am I willing to defend this game? Kinda, but it's pretty hard to defend a polished turd.

That's pretty much the problem it's hard to describe anything in this game as good or bad. The Story actually seemed like it was going somewhere at different points then it would just drop and do something else usually just to piece each chapter together. I definitely felt like the game was made by two different groups and the storys don't fit together. I really shouldn't say this because I do not want to give anyone an excuse to play this game but they do go to the spacejockeys ship and admittedly that was really cool looking. If you have to see it go watch a play through or something and just cut to that chapter.
 
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Alien 3 was my favorite, but at that time I was into angsty shit... I can understand why many people don't consider it "canon" though. Alien was horror, Aliens action, Alien 3 thriller, Alien 4... uh, comedy?

I almost liked the prequel, but it too fell flat for me. Of course, by now I'm just ms grumpy pants, so I went into it with low expectations.

Sucks that the story in the game blew chunks though. I could've managed to play through the other failing aspects of it if only it was of some value.
 
Damn, that's depressing. I still have a tiny sliver of hope that they will fix it but at the same time, I'm not holding my breath.

Damn you to hell Randy Pitchford...straight to hell!!!
 
Apparently one if my friends that got the game modified some features in the coding and was able to return the lighting to what you saw in the E3 demo. Something about if certain graphics cards aren't supported, it puts them at the lowest settings. When I get more info I'll post it here.
 
Apparently one if my friends that got the game modified some features in the coding and was able to return the lighting to what you saw in the E3 demo. Something about if certain graphics cards aren't supported, it puts them at the lowest settings. When I get more info I'll post it here.

Please do! Hopefully the community can fix some of this mess. Releasing the SDK would go a long way toward that, I think.
 
I wish I could say the same for AVP2010 but it's stuck in matchmaking hell so it's impossible for people to "get together" and play it.

AvP 2010 has dedicated servers and a server list. The main problem is that it just seems like the MP scene is dead.

I'd love to see a resurgence in the MP scene for that game, in the wake of this travesty. I enjoyed AvP 2010 quite a bit.
 
wtf.. oh man LOL! what the..ahahaha!! jesus fucking christ bro why the hell did you do that? fucking people really hahaha! oh man not even me who works two days a week and got this game for free wouldnt do it, jesus what to say lol! i think you deserve some kind of award for that, something, maybe a beating, probably would put your senses back hahaha! :D :D :D

Woah bro you need to take a step back and chillax a sec. You totally be hatin' on your fellow [H]ard-dudes and that is like not swag at all. No homo.
 
Woah bro you need to take a step back and chillax a sec. You totally be hatin' on your fellow [H]ard-dudes and that is like not swag at all. No homo.

hey i apologized! no need to be off for my blood now, c'mon! lets concentrate on things like "lets put Randy in a cloth sack and beat the shit out of the sack with wooden planks and then leave the sack in front of a hospital" kind of thing, say "colonial marines" to the sack at the end. that'll learn him, not twitter. :)
 
This is what I've read from him so far. Haven't tried it yet. Be warned, there is a lot of reading.

Heads up people. It would seem if you... like me... have the latest vid cards, mine being a GTX 680, the game doesn`t have our cards in the PecanCompatibility.ini config. I added my card, and as well set all 3 world bias` to 0s, instead of the 1s and 2s they were set at. Well low and behold, the much vaunted dynamic lighting system seems to have show up, and a ton of world textures. I will send this info on how/where to find these settings to Sado when I get a chance later today. You may wanna try this out.

Fyi, if your card is not in the list, it defaults to a lessar card setting and doesn`t utilize your vid cards full potential.

if you go into Documents,my games, Aliens Colonial Marines, PecanGame, Config, PecanCompat.ini, you`ll see your vid card is not listed in the compatibility list. Mine wasn`t either so I added it manually. I can`t send any info on how to do it right now, but will get it to Sado to post later. These changes worked for me. I have now set the character and weap bias` to 0, really makes a difference. There are many other settings I am trying 1 at a time to see the effect 1st.

After seeing these changes, it looks to me like GB sabotaged their own release. Prolly cause Sega rushed em? *shrugs* But it looks like most of this stuff was either turned off, or quality settings lowered on purpose.

Ok, I think I have figured out how this AppCompatBucket thing works. In the compatibility ini there is a list of supported vid cards. If YOUR particular card is NOT in the list, the games compatibility mode defauls the vis settings to what it feels your vid card might be able to handle. This results in a lower vis Quality. Many cards are listed, and have a number beside each, ranging from 1 thru 5. 1 being the lowest ability card, 5 being the highest end card. I added my card to the list. And Added the number 5 beside it.

If you look thru the 1 thru 5 settings, you`ll see MANY features turned off or lowered. And the numbered 5 features are ALL turned on. And this is why I am seeing the game now as it should look. I am sure once Sado tests this... he will come to the same findings. You can however see if your card is listed, and manually turn on those effects in the ini.
 
Very interesting, thanks. Will try this when I get home, and hope for some more details as well.
 
The Aliens are joke to control in this game. How do you fuck that up? It's not like they didn't have any AvP games before. BETRAYAL!!!!
 
Past the half-way point of the game. Not the worst FPS I've ever played (Wolfenstien and TimeShift deserve to DIAF) but definitely sub-par. I'll have to mess with the .ini settings... Already have the DX10 mod installed so will give that a try.
 
Who ever said Alien 3 wasn't cannon lied to you. Alien 3 IS cannon. Hence why they call it the Alien Trilogy. turd.

It would be an actual trilogy if Alien 3 is removed from history. This bullshit movie that my wife and her sister enjoy a lot. They're not really into sci-fi and dislike other Alien movies.
 
It would be an actual trilogy if Alien 3 is removed from history.

No it wouldn't, as Aliens Trilogy came out in 1996 and the forth Alien film came out in 1997. So it would have had to have been "Aliens Duology" :p

It was significantly closer to the original films feeling and setting (and story continuity) than Aliens...
 
Alien 3 as a 12 year old in a big theater...was when I realized big movies can suck a big turd. That movie scarred my love for the Aliens series, me and my friend looked at each other when it was over like, dude that sucked right? That was an Aliens movie and it sucked right? Yep bro lets go play MERCS in the lobby fuck that shitty movie.
 
Alien resurection was awesome, it was a genuinely frightening movie on it's own. It was a definate cash-grab, but all if the characters were likable and human, even the (hot) android, and the aliens were surprisingly scary. I definitely think ALL 4 alien movies are cannon, but in the traditional comic book 'split universe' sense.

Except the most recent AVP movie: that was complete trash. At least the first AVP move has a predator and an alien queen battle...

I am REALLY dissiapointed in the news surrounding A:CM... I absolutely loved AVP2 and the multiplayer was freaking fantastic (I cleared entire servers playing as the Praetorian) and my hopes were sky-high for this game when they announced it shortly after the release of AVP2, but wow... I'm kind of depressed that this game supposedly sucks so much...
 
Here are some screen shots after implementing the changes on the coding for enhanced graphics.

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