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These are my thoughts exactly, although the thought of waiting for Haswell is both torturous and tempting.Keeping an eye on this and the Helix. Both appear to be really well made and excellent specs. Helix beats it out in HD space and battery with the base. Helix comes at a price though. If it is coming out soon, I am shocked that there are no preorders yet. Really hoping they send this thing straight to BestBuy so more people can check it out.
The price doesn't seem all that upsetting. It's a magnesium case, with (reportedly) very good build quality and with a fairly premium display (1080p; optically-bonded). Also, it's Intel, so inexpensiveness never really has a chance to enter into the equation. Sort of the nature of the beast.This looks like it could be it with the build quality and specs...only negative is the price.
Microsoft's problem is a lack of commitment to a lot of their hardware products. They've shown, at least, that they're committed to advertising the Surface, which is more of a commitment they ever made with the Zune/Kin. Ballmer also says that they're committed to the Surface as a product line, but just about anything he says is incredibly dubious.Microsoft hasn't created a successful product line besides the Xbox (Excluding any Windows/Word products). This is the first time I think Microsoft might have created an awesome new product line in a long time.
Microsoft's problem is a lack of commitment to a lot of their hardware products. They've shown, at least, that they're committed to advertising the Surface, which is more of a commitment they ever made with the Zune/Kin. Ballmer also says that they're committed to the Surface as a product line, but just about anything he says is incredibly dubious.
If Microsoft doesn't pull the plug before Intel's offerings improve a little more, I could see the Surface being a good product for them. My fear, though, is that they yank the plug out after Surface Pro v1. They can't leave this product at Ivy Bridge, call it a day and expect the Surface brand itself to gain any traction.
I'm excited to see how this does. Microsoft hasn't created a successful product line besides the Xbox (Excluding any Windows/Word products). Zune? Kin? What are those? This is the first time I think Microsoft might have created an awesome new product line in a long time.
Microsoft's problem is a lack of commitment to a lot of their hardware products. They've shown, at least, that they're committed to advertising the Surface, which is more of a commitment they ever made with the Zune/Kin. Ballmer also says that they're committed to the Surface as a product line, but just about anything he says is incredibly dubious.
If Microsoft doesn't pull the plug before Intel's offerings improve a little more, I could see the Surface being a good product for them. My fear, though, is that they yank the plug out after Surface Pro v1. They can't leave this product at Ivy Bridge, call it a day and expect the Surface brand itself to gain any traction.
These are my thoughts exactly, although the thought of waiting for Haswell is both torturous and tempting.
You didn't actually read the entire post. That's a shame.They did bail on Zune admittedly, but the PDA, MP3, non-tablet mobile device market is all but dead, even Apple has seen serious declines in iPod sales.
My favorite part of this article is how they say things like consumers dont understand the difference, Why do companies say that all the time? You tell them the freaking difference stupid. Consumers didnt know about resolution till display companies told them about HD and the same with computers till apple shoved retina in their face with hundreds of millions in ads. And consumers mostly have no clue about SSDs and speed till a salesman describes it to them.
You didn't actually read the entire post. That's a shame.
My thoughts exactly. I'd like to jump on the Surface Pro, but Haswell sounds like it will be worth waiting for.
Whats the rumor mill saying?
Maybe 10% boost in performance and a better on die GPU?
If you want to wait, wait for the next architecture, Haswell is an iteration no more significant then Sandy -> Ivy.
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I have a Microsoft Surface RT sitting on my kitchen table.....boxed up and ready to go back to the store. Long story short...Its junk. Hopefully Pro will be better, but I ain't holding my breath. I bought a laptop that came with Win 8 too and I couldn't deal with it either, after 3 hours I wiped it and put Win 7 on it. Why the fuck would I load something from the start screen only to have it open the program in the desktop. I might as well just spend all my time on the desktop then since that is where I wind up working 99% of the time anyway.
Haswell is very significant for mobile parts. It brings significant gains in both graphics performance and power consumption.
looks like it will be out on Feb 9
http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsof...ace-windows-8-pro-availability-confirmed.aspx
They've certainly missed their own target to have it out within 90 days after the Surface RT.Finally some solid details. Shocked they took so long considering that is a little over 2 weeks away.
Would rather get a touch ultrabook - bigger screen, more battery life and easier to use. Or something like the Yoga. A pure tablet running x86 apps is an extremely niche market.
You are not alone. A lot of market reports I have been reading indicate the same, as well as ultrabooks becoming a thing of the past as well; being slowly replaced with convertibles like the yoga you mentioned.
So this is sort of a round about way of saying something like surface is the future lol
What qualifications are you using to separate them? The kickstand and keyboard/touchpad quality?I think you misunderstood me. Surface is not a convertible, its a tablet with a keyboard and certainly not the future.
I think you misunderstood me. Surface is not a convertible, its a tablet with a keyboard and certainly not the future.
Like how significant?
Have you read, I have and am not impressed. Its a stop gap before they release an all new architecture, just another move by the bean counters to pressure them into releasing something to boost their stock price.
Nice to see a commercial of people actually just getting work done with this thing.
17W -> 10W
Doubling in graphics power per watt
I would say both of those are incredibly significant. Especially for ultraportables where performance per watt is a huge premium. This will increase graphics performance and battery life on these devices by significant amounts.