Yes they do...
post from earlier in the thread:
how about if one make a normal case where the MB sits horizontal (like the SG05, just for example ), but the end user can always put the case in whatever ways they like
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Yes they do...
post from earlier in the thread:
how about if one make a normal case where the MB sits horizontal (like the SG05, just for example ), but the end user can always put the case in whatever ways they like
what? how the hell do they get a patent for that? the idea was around long before they did it! iirc there were concept designs around prior to the BTX case spec, and some may have come out of those old Intel sponsored computer design competitions in the 1990s. Aside from that there are server designs using vertical cooling, and at least one user on the SPCR forum posted his work log for a vertical case (made of wood) long before Silverstone did anything. How much prior art and ideas in the public domain do the patent office need to reject patents?
A whole lot of what I remember is from old magazine articles from when I was at school and uni, but even a very quick search on google yields one of the home made projects that I remember seeing on SPCR when it was originally posted: a hand built, vertical airflow, wooden case. Construction is not the best but the layout is there and the thread was posted 27th March 2007, approx. 18 months before Taiwan patent #M336464 application date which was on 14th Sept 2008.Can you send me the info you have?
i really doubt silverstone would have a problem with you doing a limited run of these and selling them basically at cost after shipping and logistics. if a rival case manufacturer copied their design and profited from it, then yeah, they have every right to jump on that. but in a case where youre not profiting from it and youre only making a couple hundred, i seriously doubt silverstone would mind. just ask tony ou or the reps youre talking to.
I got a price from SilverStone, their process require tooling for production. The cost per unit will be around $200 or more.
It's not economical.
this is all very interesting but this thing is turning into just some sort of SST-FT03 alternative, uglier btw but thats in my opinion.
for me a real "evolution" (improvement) for the SG05 would be the same design but a little longer and taller, just enough to fit normal size PSUs, AND made of aluminium. yes we have the SG08 but i find the SG05 unbeatable (so far) on the "cute" aspect
i didnt mean having them make the case. i mean that if you had lian li or someone do a limited run of this case, i doubt silverstone would bring charges against you or make you pay a royalty fee. since its such a limited quantity and youre making no profit there wouldnt really be anything for them to sue for. it would just be a waste of money and time for silverstone.
I'd be happy to act as your mfg. for one-off, prototype or production.
That's the ticket right there. It's all about the processI just know the process is fun, and we'll keep moving forward
It's risky business to order hundreds of cases. A lot of money is at stake. Are you sure you guys are ready for this?
You might as well just start up a specialized SFF case company and go for it.
Just cut/bend/finish, you're over $300 easy. That's a lot of small cutouts which makes for long cycle times and more scrap potential. The cost-down version would use an aluminum mesh rather than cutting the mesh into the panels.What would it cost to get a professional to produce 1 unit?
You make it sound so easy! But seriously, no matter how you approach it you're talking a major capital investment; either on inventory or on machinery.You might as well just start up a specialized SFF case company and go for it.
You might as well just start up a specialized SFF case company and go for it.
Though to be honest (personal preference), not a fan of the current case, I prefer Horizontal than Vertical ITX cases (ala Fractal Node 304, or SG05 / SG07)
Fractal Node 304 looks like the perfect ITX case to me. Except for the USB being on the right rather than centered.
Just cut/bend/finish, you're over $300 easy. That's a lot of small cutouts which makes for long cycle times and more scrap potential. The cost-down version would use an aluminum mesh rather than cutting the mesh into the panels.
You make it sound so easy! But seriously, no matter how you approach it you're talking a major capital investment; either on inventory or on machinery.
Not me, but if the OP is interested in knowing the process I'm sure he could.If you want to get some info contact Dave at PC Design Lab (Qmicra). I bet he could give you some useful ideas on how to go about making a case from design to finished product. He went through it here in the USA.
You've almost answered your own question, you need to have enough space for the cable to flex without excessive strain on the wires, plugs and sockets.the top part is a bit too big, back cables don't take that much space, usually...
cmadki4, I sent you a PM.
anyone else with prototyping capabilities beside cmadki4?
Kickstarter requires a prototype as of Sep this year, can't use renderings anymore.
Interesting idea.
I didn't know Lian Li or Silverstone was open to GB's...
Why three expansion slots?
Power supply: ATX, max 140mm long
Can you explain how the power supply is oriented? What is the orientation of the fan? It looks like either the drives or the case would be in the way.