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but how much resource does it take ? or how well does it run games compared to win7 ?
bulldozer 10% boost?

maybe they'll have themes u can download that will make it look less like tablets ?
 
rantanamo said:
These are the types of statements that are confusing. Some say Win 8 for the desktop is really not that much different. But now it will cost and be painful?
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Nothing confusing about it...never underestimate the stupidity of the average user. Plus they hate change and if you force it on them training takes longer because they won't/don't retain enough. This comes from experience. :(
 
Any one else start having issues with it locking up. mine started dying after like 20 mintues. not that matters i just took it off man its just a pain to use. I work in IT and would want to shoot my self to try and get some avrage user to try and navigate some where like control panal.
 
Makeroflostsouls said:
Any one else start having issues with it locking up. mine started dying after like 20 mintues. not that matters i just took it off man its just a pain to use. I work in IT and would want to shoot my self to try and get some avrage user to try and navigate some where like control panal.
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Yup mine was locking up. I got rid of it after about 45 mins.
 
rantanamo said:
These are the types of statements that are confusing. Some say Win 8 for the desktop is really not that much different. But now it will cost and be painful?
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From an IT implementation and training perspective, Win 8 is a nightmare waiting to happen. Average users (you know the people that comprise the majority of users that can barely operate a pc) struggled hard enough finding things when they were forced to move from XP to Vista or 7 and the differences there were extremely minor. Win 8 eliminates any sense of familiarity and people here think that is going to be well received? What fantasy land are some of you living in? Those users are going to be extremely lost, there will need to be a TON of time and training invested.

Once again, good for a tablet != good for everything.
 
klank said:
They force the whole tablet interface (Think Apple IOS, or Android) on you in a desktop environment, it might be great on a tablet but I personally don't think it works well on the desktop.
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There are definitely problem areas. But overall, I think its an okay OS for home desktops.

I do hope MS has something up its sleeve for those in enterprise environments.

I need nVidia drivers. The installer says it can't find compatible hardware (GTX460m). Any suggestions?
 
I consider myself an average user. I guess I never take the stance of new = stupid. If I use it for a while and its slowing me down, that's another thing. I'm sure I'm being annoying, but I'm just curious before I commit the time to do this later.

I would also bet that most people had 7 at home before it was ever used at work. I know I did.
 
I got it installed on a test machine at my IT department. The recovery options are fantastic. I like the skydrive and zune implementation. Definitely geared towards tablets. A tablet with a choice of going to a Windows 7 desktop sounds like a winner for the enterprise.

Also can anyone else say DirectX games on mobile devices? woop woop
 
rantanamo said:
I consider myself an average user. I guess I never take the stance of new = stupid. If I use it for a while and its slowing me down, that's another thing. I'm sure I'm being annoying, but I'm just curious before I commit the time to do this later.

I would also bet that most people had 7 at home before it was ever used at work. I know I did.
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If you have enough time to commit to it personally go ahead...you might like it, or not. I'm going to try it at home as well. But as a business OS it does not make sense at all and from what I've seen so far I'm not liking it. Strip the new UI and updated kernel and its Windows 7, so why upgrade?
 
blinx said:
I got it installed on a test machine at my IT department. The recovery options are fantastic. I like the skydrive and zune implementation. Definitely geared towards tablets. A tablet with a choice of going to a Windows 7 desktop sounds like a winner for the enterprise.

Also can anyone else say DirectX games on mobile devices? woop woop
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Winner for the enterprise, how so? Now if your talking replacing the ipads with win8 tablets I'm all for that! Our top exec's at work just had to have ipads, we said go ahead but we won't support them...;)
 
<3 RIT internet speed! :p

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Now to install it onto my 3 years old HP TX2 Touchscreen laptop. :D
 
fps4ever said:
If you have enough time to commit to it personally go ahead...you might like it, or not. I'm going to try it at home as well. But as a business OS it does not make sense at all and from what I've seen so far I'm not liking it. Strip the new UI and updated kernel and its Windows 7, so why upgrade?
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Plan on getting a x86 tablet for grad school. I conduct interviews. Right now I'm using an Android tablet, and have used the ipad. I often need to do large crosstab calculations and neither are cutting it. I know, I need a 7 tablet or slate. I like the idea of Windows to Go and have everything work with the desktop as well. If there's a start menu, even if getting to it is a little different and it looks different, the concept of W8 simply kills everything for what I do on a daily basis. Can I run things like SPSS, Word, Excell, Visio, ArcGIS and easily switch between a 3 monitor interface? Can I easily transfer that desktop to an x86 tablet when needed in the field? Pretty much anything else, whether on 7, Vista or XP was simply easy to get to. If its easy to get to, even if different, that's all I am looking for. That's why I want to upgrade. The concept just sounds like heaven compared to everything else.
 
I'm really not sure why this is so difficult to understand, and I'm not trying to belittle anyone, but if those of us on this board, who are by all accounts power users with a lot of knowledge of computers are having problems or questions, there is no doubt that there will be MANY questions from standard end users. Think about your moms and dads using this and the questions they will likely ask. For an IT person then multiply that by probably hundreds. This will be a difficult transition for the standard user.

If everyone started using a tablet PC then this may be better. And, I think it might even be good for something like an HTPC in the home environment, this means the standard UI is not kind of like a 10 foot interface. If there was some integration with Windows Media Center to see your movies and TV shows etc. it would be a winner for that. But, I still think it is not the ideal OS UI for a standard desktop PC with the way people work.

For me, I don't really like at all the fact that everything seems to now be cluttering the main screen. I put very little on my desktop in Windows 7 so this is, at first, offputting. I'll give it a chance but there is no doubt this will be a problematic OS for most people.
 
Hey, if I install the 64bit client for this, will my games still run such as WoW and SC2? I can learn the new interface, but it's a dealbreaker for me if my games won't run on this.
 
rantanamo said:
I was just given the contrary idea. Which is it?
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When he says they "force" it in your desktop environment, what he means, is the only time you HAVE to use the Metro UI is when you pull up the start screen, to open or search for something. The actually desktop experience is essentially identical.
 
Nearsite said:
Hey, if I install the 64bit client for this, will my games still run such as WoW and SC2? I can learn the new interface, but it's a dealbreaker for me if my games won't run on this.
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Yes, it just like 64 bit Windows 7. (sorry for double post, no edits)
 
Looks like you will only need a low end or onboard video card to run this baby. Are we going back to lessor amounts of memory and continue to off load to the gpu. The desk top looks quite humbug to me and flat. Best way I can describe it. For looks, it seems were going a few steps back.
 
Impressive...Windows 8 made my Virtual Box crash.

I will have to mess with it when I get back.
 
Uncle said:
Looks like you will only need a low end or onboard video card to run this baby. Are we going back to lessor amounts of memory and continue to off load to the gpu. The desk top looks quite humbug to me and flat. Best way I can describe it. For looks, it seems were going a few steps back.
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I can do the same thing with Windows 7 and disabling everything except desktop item shadows, show windows contents while dragging, boom, 2% resource use on a laptop dragging/opening/closing windows
 
mrc73 said:
I'm really not sure why this is so difficult to understand, and I'm not trying to belittle anyone, but if those of us on this board, who are by all accounts power users with a lot of knowledge of computers are having problems or questions, there is no doubt that there will be MANY questions from standard end users. Think about your moms and dads using this and the questions they will likely ask. For an IT person then multiply that by probably hundreds. This will be a difficult transition for the standard user.

If everyone started using a tablet PC then this may be better. And, I think it might even be good for something like an HTPC in the home environment, this means the standard UI is not kind of like a 10 foot interface. If there was some integration with Windows Media Center to see your movies and TV shows etc. it would be a winner for that. But, I still think it is not the ideal OS UI for a standard desktop PC with the way people work.

For me, I don't really like at all the fact that everything seems to now be cluttering the main screen. I put very little on my desktop in Windows 7 so this is, at first, offputting. I'll give it a chance but there is no doubt this will be a problematic OS for most people.
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I don't think anyone has argued the difficulty it could pose for IT depts. As for the start screen being cluttered - You can remove anything you don't want on there, but regardless it shouldn't matter because that is not your desktop. Your desktop is just like it always has been, and you can keep your icons exactly like you have them in every other version of windows. The start screen is the new start menu for desktops, and I have yet to meet a single person who keeps their start menu completely empty.

Uncle said:
Looks like you will only need a low end or onboard video card to run this baby. Are we going back to lessor amounts of memory and continue to off load to the gpu. The desk top looks quite humbug to me and flat. Best way I can describe it. For looks, it seems were going a few steps back.
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That is completely subjective, because I think it looks much better.
 
I had to turn the SmartMouse option off in Parallels/Mac to get any sort of Mouse control.
 
mrc73 said:
I'm really not sure why this is so difficult to understand, and I'm not trying to belittle anyone, but if those of us on this board, who are by all accounts power users with a lot of knowledge of computers are having problems or questions, there is no doubt that there will be MANY questions from standard end users. Think about your moms and dads using this and the questions they will likely ask. For an IT person then multiply that by probably hundreds. This will be a difficult transition for the standard user.
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My mom and dad? I'll admit, my parents aren't the norm, and it probably helps that I'm one of the younger members of this forum (20 as opposed to many people's 35+). But my mom wouldn't have any problem with it. My mom may not be a power user, but she knows her way around computers.

My dad would likely have an easier time with W8 than previous versions, as long as he does not fall back into "this is too hard, I'm giving up". W8 is a much simpler OS IMO. The problem for us is we're just so used to things like the desktop, control panel and start menu. We're power users, and we are used to having certain things be in certain places. Getting used to things moving around is a difficult task.

As I stated before, there are places that have issues. The biggest one in my mind is the way keyboard shortcuts don't work quite the same. I don't like the fact that I have to scroll up and down to go left and right. I don't like how to open another program, I have to completely stop what I'm doing and go into a full screen start menu. I don't like how hidden Settings is. but in day-to-day use, do I think these issues will eventually be big enough to prevent me from using W8? Not really.

tl;dr For regular home users W8 will be a departure, but after getting used to it, it will be a much simpler experience, even on non-tablet devices.
 
I just can't see an interface like this working for a setup like I have at work with three monitors. That being said, I haven't had a chance to give it a go yet.

To you guys saying "This is just like when you guys hated Vista then like 7 but they are the same" Baloney. Vista sucked. We can all agree on that. They made the UAC intolerable in Vista. It only pops up in 7 when you would actually like it to pop up to prevent someone from nuking themselves. 7 is so much snappier and stable than any SP of Vista.

All this doesn't really matter anyway, this version is doomed. It is just the pattern.

Windows 95 - sucked
Windows 98 - way better
Windows ME - sucked a super fat one
Windows XP - way better
Windows Vista - sucked
Windows 7 - way better
Windows 8 - ??????
 
elfletcho said:
I just can't see an interface like this working for a setup like I have at work with three monitors. That being said, I haven't had a chance to give it a go yet.

To you guys saying "This is just like when you guys hated Vista then like 7 but they are the same" Baloney. Vista sucked. We can all agree on that. They made the UAC intolerable in Vista. It only pops up in 7 when you would actually like it to pop up to prevent someone from nuking themselves. 7 is so much snappier and stable than any SP of Vista.

All this doesn't really matter anyway, this version is doomed. It is just the pattern.

Windows 95 - sucked
Windows 98 - way better
Windows ME - sucked a super fat one
Windows XP - way better
Windows Vista - sucked
Windows 7 - way better
Windows 8 - ??????
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I would rather use Vista than XP any day of the week.
 
Honestly,

I don't see this interface working for businesses.

At least not right at first. This could be another "Windows Vista" here.
You get the basic functionality, but have to wait for the next version to come out before you get all the little amenities that an IT department requires before it's accepted.

Personally? I have no desire to flip through multiple screens of an ersatz console interface when I could have multiple windows and menus open simultaneously in a standard Windows Desktop interface.
 
I'm perplexed by the responses here. Everyone is saying that its only good for tablets, that it would be great if there were a traditional desktop option. I haven't tried the CP yet but, from reading up on it today I have to wonder if a lot of you are missing something. There are two distinct user environments, Metro which will primarily be for mobile devices, and a traditional desktop environment for regualr PCs. From everything I've seen, the desktop environment looks largely similar to legacy Windows, with a few new UI changes. Am I wrong here? Is the desktop UI really that bad? Or is the desktop environment really that hard to find that the majority of [H] just missed it?
 
That was a painful few hours. Got it downloaded and installed and promised myself I would give it a few hours of my full undivided attention.

It was such a hellish experience that I can promise anyone here that MS is going to end up putting back in and making it's keyboard / mouse interface the main input controls. Yes, that includes the start button.

OS's have evolved to where we are today. You simple do not cut off the eyes, ears and fingers to something that worked. Windows 7 brought with it a wealth of praise to Microsoft. It helped to once again feel up their coffers and make them relevant when they needed it most. You don't throw all that hard work away.

This is what will happen. People won't buy Windows 8. They will demand they get Windows 7 on their new Machines. The pressure will be so great, they will be forced to do this. This is utter shit. If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig and acts like a pig ........ well

Makes me sick to my stomach to think I have a crappy Windows 8 phone U.I. on my custom rig. That's another huge turn off.
 
elfletcho said:
I just can't see an interface like this working for a setup like I have at work with three monitors. That being said, I haven't had a chance to give it a go yet.

To you guys saying "This is just like when you guys hated Vista then like 7 but they are the same" Baloney. Vista sucked. We can all agree on that. They made the UAC intolerable in Vista. It only pops up in 7 when you would actually like it to pop up to prevent someone from nuking themselves. 7 is so much snappier and stable than any SP of Vista.

All this doesn't really matter anyway, this version is doomed. It is just the pattern.

Windows 95 - sucked
Windows 98 - way better
Windows ME - sucked a super fat one
Windows XP - way better
Windows Vista - sucked
Windows 7 - way better
Windows 8 - ??????
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Many people, mostly businesses and nerds and gamers, went from 98SE to Win2000.

Windows 95 was actually very great for it's time. When 98 came out, then it was dated and crappy. 98 really wasn't that great until SE came out. XP wasn't GREAT (good, yea) until SP2 came out, then it was a whole new OS pretty much. A lot of changes.

There really is no "every other one is crap" schedule on Windows except for those that manipulate them to fit their needs.
 
I guess I'm the minority but I fucken love it! Been using the Metro interface on the Zune HD, Windows Phone 7 for a while so I'm used it it. Looks great for a tablet not quiet sure I would used it on the desktop (unless I have a nice touchscreen LCD) :D;) but can't wait for the final release
 
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