Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

Regarding support dropping ammo boxes... I usually see them at chokes and corners. If you are off fapping in a bush, you're probably not going to get ammo.

That aside, this game is awesome. :)
 
I am pretty sure that was not we are all complaining about. IN BF2 we used to sometimes quickly echange the kits of a nearby dead enemy to revive or supply your pal in need. The team work/squads were so damn functional.Honestly a good commander would win you a round,,I have only noticed that qualtiy of teamwork degrade since.
 
cukoodukoo said:
I am pretty sure that was not we are all complaining about. IN BF2 we used to sometimes quickly echange the kits of a nearby dead enemy to revive or supply your pal in need. The team work/squads were so damn functional.Honestly a good commander would win you a round,,I have only noticed that qualtiy of teamwork degrade since.
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Definitely agree with you. Need to see the teamwork element from players step up a bit.

On the [H] servers where I'm spending the bulk of my play time, if I see a bunch of HIG guys in there it's not a problem.

I'm shamelessly pimping the H servers but I'm also shooting for a broader point: Be picky about where you play. I don't know about you all but I can be in a server and figure out within a few minutes if I'm with people that know how to play and do something right vs not.

Let me put it to you this way: I'm barely a decent player right now. If I'm halfway or more up my team's list and I'm rolling with my BS 8-17 KDR or what not and the team is losing like 200-100 or whatever guess what that means?

Besides me sucking it means my teams sucks, doesn't know what the hell they're doing, and I quit that BS and move on pronto. Doesn't take a lot of time to figure out.
 
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I suck, but I've seen better teamwork in wow battlegrounds than this game. I know the no team voip option sucks, but I'm actually surprised at how little people work together especially on conquest maps.
 
Crax said:
I suck, but I've seen better teamwork in wow battlegrounds than this game. I know the no team voip option sucks, but I'm actually surprised at how little people work together especially on conquest maps.
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From my experience the rush servers are worse. Seems like nobody knows what an Mcomm is. In one game of metro rush 32, I had to run back and forth defusing each mcomm because my team was busy sitting prone with LMG's.
 
Damn, another disconnect; my buddy got dumped too so I'm guessing the server went down.

More annoying than anything else (points is points, I can get them next time) but I hope the disconnects start to smooth out.
 
Q-BZ said:
Definitely agree with you. Need to see the teamwork element from players step up a bit.

On the [H] servers where I'm spending the bulk of my play time, if I see a bunch of HIG guys in there it's not a problem.

I'm shamelessly pimping the H servers but I'm also shooting for a broader point: Be picky about where you play. I don't know about you all but I can be in a server and figure out within a few minutes if I'm with people that know how to play and do something right vs not.

Let me put it to you this way: I'm barely a decent player right now. If I'm halfway or more up my team's list and I'm rolling with my BS 8-17 KDR or what not and the team is losing like 200-100 or whatever guess what that means?

Besides me sucking it my teams sucks, doesn't know what the hell they're doing, and I quit that BS and move on pronto.
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I'm not playing as much as before, and after I hit LvL45, I'm taking a long break. The ranking system has been dumbed down. It doesn't make sense to have a Colonel Star 100(same symbol repeats over and over 45-145 with some variation) when 50 ranks would do just fine. Anyone can blow through he first 45 ranks if they put the time in. In Previous BF games, it took a few weeks to reach LvL25, I got there in three days. I think "instant gratification" is playing a role here for console players to rank up quickly instead of the usual BF rank grinding. It was pretty fun the first weekend, but now the teamwork sucks. People just let other players steamroll right over them. Conquest rounds turn into TDM.

For me right now, I'm already looking for to BtK. I only like 3 out of the 9 maps for Conquest because the others feel like they were made for rush/consoles.
(Operation Firestorm, Caspian Border and Seine Crossing. The others look like they were ported over to PC.)

My enthusiasm has been decreasing day by day. Just being honest.
 
TexasAg05 said:
Damn, another disconnect; my buddy got dumped too so I'm guessing the server went down.

More annoying than anything else (points is points, I can get them next time) but I hope the disconnects start to smooth out.
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I have the occasional disconnect myself. Thankfully, very infrequent. I think I had one in the last two days perhaps?


Here's another thing I see. 9/10 times when I fire the game up for the first time I know I can count on seeing the black screen and nothing ever loads and I have to take a second shot at it.

What that MIGHT be and I'll deliberately pay closer attention to it is if I try to go into a server that just filled up when I was making my move or not that might happen.
 
I guess I'm lucky, as I've seen quite a bit of teamwork in the games I've played. I remember when BC2 came out, and people were complaining about the teamwork. I'm willing to bet teamwork will become more prevalent after people get all the new toys and gadgets they want, and can then focus on winning, and not just getting more points.
 
officer921 said:
I guess I'm lucky, as I've seen quite a bit of teamwork in the games I've played. I remember when BC2 came out, and people were complaining about the teamwork. I'm willing to bet teamwork will become more prevalent after people get all the new toys and gadgets they want, and can then focus on winning, and not just getting more points.
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That and other people will give up and go back to COD or whatever and that'll clean it up, too.
 
I'm not sure what it is about no one playing support, or at least dropping ammo, in this game. I usually have no problem finding medpacks, they're all over. But there will be 2-3 support just sitting there like lumps...wtf? Personally I have an OCD problem of throwing medpacks/supplies TOO often, like every damn time someone comes into my vicinity, and half the time it gets me killed. :p

It's early yet, I think the skill level will build. There are a lot of new people to the game and the learning curve is pretty steep. Some will drop out and by them being gone will raise the average, and many will actually learn and improve. If anything the gimped recon class seems to have stopped the 30 snipers and 2 assault syndrome BC2 had, so even if they just learn a little bit they can be helpful to the team by healing/supplying/repairing.

That being said I'm having a field day with all of these newbs, it will take a full squad respawning 3-4 times to actually keep me from capping a flag. And I'll be alive there for a good few minutes, do you think any of my squad would actually spawn on me at an enemy cap point? Of course not. :rolleyes:
 
Mr Mean said:
Well I finally hit Rank 45 ( Colonel ) and I am burned out now. I didn't get burned out of Bad Company 2 for months. It's only been a week and I already want to take a break from the game. There is something missing that doesn't make it feel like a battlefield 2 successor. Like no commander mode or requesting a artillery strike. But the graphics, my god they are amazing. Looking at the sun will turn you blind. Added a very good realism (except for the fact you can survive a headshot with a defibrillator).

The noob level wasn't that bad as I thought it was. People were spotting targets and dropping health packs. The only issue I had was having little to no support classes in my squad or in my entire army. I litterly had to ask someone from another squad to drop an ammo pack in the Grand Bazaar alley so we wouldn't get overruned with the opposing army.

Did I get my moneys worth? Well still haven't tried co-op or the single player. But I never viewed Battlfield 3 having a single player element. Maybe I will be pleasantly suprised. So far it seems it was worth it ( well the muliplayer side that is). I am totally fucked with the jets to level up now. Enemy jets just fire missles and I am done. No flares or missles I am just done. But I did luck out with the attack helicopters. Atleat I leveled them up by being a gunner :)
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Dude how are you lvl 45 already, try to take a break once in awhile..
 
TwistedAegis said:
I'm not sure what it is about no one playing support, or at least dropping ammo, in this game. I usually have no problem finding medpacks, they're all over. But there will be 2-3 support just sitting there like lumps...wtf? Personally I have an OCD problem of throwing medpacks/supplies TOO often, like every damn time someone comes into my vicinity, and half the time it gets me killed. :p
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Same here - I can't tell you how many times I've died with an ammo pack in my hands.
 
WorldExclusive said:
That looks fucking 10x better than what we have now.
The classic Conquest maps are way better. Also, I noticed that the maps look amazing like Operation Firestorm, unlike Tehran Highway that looks like a console port.
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yeah, did you also notice 7 flag points? :D
 
Adam.C said:
yeah, did you also notice 7 flag points? :D
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I think these are the maps that are specifically made for PC.
It's like they made Operation Firestorm, Caspian Border and Seine Crossing, then just shifted to consoles.


Mr Mean said:
Well I finally hit Rank 45 ( Colonel ) and I am burned out now. I didn't get burned out of Bad Company 2 for months. It's only been a week and I already want to take a break from the game. There is something missing that doesn't make it feel like a battlefield 2 successor. Like no commander mode or requesting a artillery strike. But the graphics, my god they are amazing. Looking at the sun will turn you blind. Added a very good realism (except for the fact you can survive a headshot with a defibrillator).

The noob level wasn't that bad as I thought it was. People were spotting targets and dropping health packs. The only issue I had was having little to no support classes in my squad or in my entire army. I litterly had to ask someone from another squad to drop an ammo pack in the Grand Bazaar alley so we wouldn't get overruned with the opposing army.

Did I get my moneys worth? Well still haven't tried co-op or the single player. But I never viewed Battlfield 3 having a single player element. Maybe I will be pleasantly suprised. So far it seems it was worth it ( well the muliplayer side that is). I am totally fucked with the jets to level up now. Enemy jets just fire missles and I am done. No flares or missles I am just done. But I did luck out with the attack helicopters. Atleat I leveled them up by being a gunner :)
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After LvL45 there's nothing else to do but increase the number under the eagle, which is lame.
I got burned out also, it took much longer in BC2, I last about four months before I had to take a break.
There's something missing here. Other people who are lower ranks still have something to play for, but I'm a 35 now and the end is closer than expected.

I still love the game, but I'm not getting the full BF grind out experience here.
 
Crax said:
I suck, but I've seen better teamwork in wow battlegrounds than this game. I know the no team voip option sucks, but I'm actually surprised at how little people work together especially on conquest maps.
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Lots of COD players it looks like. I highly doubt that BC2/BF players would forget how to play. Makes people easy fodder for me :D
 
WorldExclusive said:
I think these are the maps that are specifically made for PC.
It's like they made Operation Firestorm, Caspian Border and Seine Crossing, then just shifted to consoles.




After LvL45 there's nothing else to do but increase the number under the eagle, which is lame.
I got burned out also, it took much longer in BC2, I last about four months before I had to take a break.
There's something missing here. Other people who are lower ranks still have something to play for, but I'm a 35 now and the end is closer than expected.

I still love the game, but I'm not getting the full BF grind out experience here.
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Sounds like you just play too much. Take a break and come back.
 
DPV = Hell yes

And I'm pretty sure I saw someone driving a Bobcat at 28s in. :p
 
After 45 you still can level up unlocks for specific weapons though, right? Maybe challenge yourself to do that. Though from the look of the unlocks, after about 150 kills our so with each it's like this random menagerie of seemingly similar optics.
 
MrFace said:
Sounds like you just play too much. Take a break and come back.
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That's one of my issues, I played a ton last week. Took a two day break and played a bit today.
I'll finish my quest to LvL45 by next week and I'll take a long break. I've been meaning to play about three SP games but I put off them since the BF3 beta.
 
I hope wake is chocked full of vics like it looks in the video I'd love a small armor based map.
 
Mother of god, I can't take any more awesomeness. They should delay Karkand just so I have some hope at keeping my life in order.
 
Amazing that people are already getting burned out. I've got 12 hours into the game so far, at level 11, and I'm loving it. Plan on maxing all classes and all weapons. So much better than BF2 or BC2. This and Skyrim are my new gaming loves for the next year at least.
 
MavericK96 said:
After 45 you still can level up unlocks for specific weapons though, right? Maybe challenge yourself to do that. Though from the look of the unlocks, after about 150 kills our so with each it's like this random menagerie of seemingly similar optics.
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For me the different design on the optics matters. They have different graphics as well as obsuring a differing amount of the screen. For instance the PK-A 3.4x is much better than the M145 3.4x to me. Same with the Reflex RDS over the Kobra RDS and the Holographic Holo over the PKA-S Holo. To a lesser extent I also prefer the Acog 4x over the PSO-1 4x.

Overall my favorite scope at the moment is the PK-A 3.4x, backed up maybe by the Holographic Holo (maybe Reflex RDS, haven't used these as much) or ACOG. I don't use the IRNV for personal reasons.
 
How the hell do I level up faster? 8 hours of gameplay and I'm only level 10. I've only been assault so far but I wanted to max that out and move onto the next... or do I need to use other kits as well?
 
GOD'SlittleSERVANT said:
How the hell do I level up faster? 8 hours of gameplay and I'm only level 10. I've only been assault so far but I wanted to max that out and move onto the next... or do I need to use other kits as well?
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I'm working on maxing Support myself. I think a lot of people are spending massive amounts of time in game. Teenagers and the like. I only play on the weekends and some weeknights. I like not leveling at an insane speed. It's funner to have goals and stuff I'm looking forward too. I never understood the "Max everything in every game as fast as possible in record time" mind set.

Like the super fast run throughs of Skyrim I've seen videos of. What a waste.
 
All about the flag caps, Ammo packs, health packs, and then after all that shooting peoples faces..


On a side note.. The M98B + Red Dot + Straight pull bolt = "hackshoota" according to some cry babies in conquest metro. :)
 
GOD'SlittleSERVANT said:
How the hell do I level up faster? 8 hours of gameplay and I'm only level 10. I've only been assault so far but I wanted to max that out and move onto the next... or do I need to use other kits as well?
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Honestly?

TDM -> very high SPM there. Tons of kills for scope unlocks etc. Res the plethora of dead bodies and plop down med kits everywhere.

64 player Metro Conquest -> Hate all you want. It's a clusterfuck, pointless, stupid, etc. But my god can you get super high SPM here. Tons (tons... endless??) dead bodies to res here. Put down a med kit in the middle of 5 guys and see endless heal points.

Both will probably inflate your KDR too...
 
Ah, ok. I'm going to switch back to the med kits then. I used them for awhile but I love the n00b tube. I love conquest but TDM I like also. Thanks!
 
I really liked the COOP! Reminded me of games back in the day where you play the levels dozens of times to squeak out the highest scores to be posted on your friends leader boards. :)
 
GOD'SlittleSERVANT said:
How the hell do I level up faster? 8 hours of gameplay and I'm only level 10. I've only been assault so far but I wanted to max that out and move onto the next... or do I need to use other kits as well?
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That's not too bad...I'm rank 11 after almost 7 hours. A good wait to gain more points is to play on servers with less people. With 64 players everyone is fighting for kills/captures/etc, but with like 16-24 people there's a lot more personal scoring involved.

Another way to somewhat quickly gain points (and this is kind of cheap but it works) is to find an empty Conquest server for jet training (where it only takes one player to start the round), and just go around capping points by yourself. You can then suicide and switch to the other team, and capture the points again. Then you can repeat as needed, but make sure you get on the "winning" team before the tickets run out. I did this in a server when I was messing around practicing with the support helicopter and got like 6000 points, including several unlocks for the helicopter by just hovering over each capture point and capping it while in a helo. If you need tank points, capture while in a tank, etc.

It's not the most fun thing ever but if you find yourself bored and needing points it's something to do. Plus, for me, it was fun because I was practicing flying the helicopter through a small tunnel (it was that map with the C point in the tunnel).
 
Porter_ said:
i hate it when people are dipshits like that and try to grief recon players. i get annoyed when i join a team full of snipers, but they paid $60 for their game like everybody else so they can play however they like. it doesn't suddenly excuse you to become a dipshit griefer.
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It does when it's just a game. CTFO
 
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