PC Gaming is too much work.

@ Derangel

I might be more than my usual amount of slow today. I just realized that you're probably talking about the game devs and not the console manufacturers which makes more sense with that you said.
 
I would have bought an XBOX 360 on release if games like Halo and CoD supported mouse + keyboard input. Gamepad for racing, mouse+keyboard for shooting. Done.
 
Uncle Humjaba said:
I would have bought an XBOX 360 on release if games like Halo and CoD supported mouse + keyboard input. Gamepad for racing, mouse+keyboard for shooting. Done.
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Ditto, and I would have bought most of the other FPS's as well. Probably a PS3 with the same deal. I spend thousands on my gaming PCs every other year or so. A few consoles and their respectively exclusive titles would not add up to a lot more in my entertainment budget.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
It isn't about which is better, it's about which is easier. Going to a retail store twice to buy/sell a game is harder than clicking a button on Steam.
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You don't have to do any of that stuff? You can trade in on Amazon, print a label and schedule a shipment via UPS or you can print and pay postage on USPS and sell your game on eBay.
 
Uncle Humjaba said:
I would have bought an XBOX 360 on release if games like Halo and CoD supported mouse + keyboard input. Gamepad for racing, mouse+keyboard for shooting. Done.
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Well you will find a lot of hardcore people who prefer a mouse and keyboard for shooters there are quite a bit of us like me who prefer a dual joystiq controller. I am not saying it exactly better, just more enjoyable for me. Therefore I believe the input device is a subjective argument whereas the cost factor of PC gaming etc is not.
 
Steam makes PC gaming extremely easy. It installs the files that are needed for the game to play the first time you launch it (.net fixes, directx, etc), and it even updates your games for you automatically.

It'd be a stretch, but I'd almost go as far as to say that Steam is as easy as gaming on a console.
 
simonizor said:
Steam makes PC gaming extremely easy. It installs the files that are needed for the game to play the first time you launch it (.net fixes, directx, etc), and it even updates your games for you automatically.

It'd be a stretch, but I'd almost go as far as to say that Steam is as easy as gaming on a console.
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You have to set a few extra game options in decent games which aren't totally botched console ports in regard to video or key mapping options, but yeah, for the most part it's just as easy as console gaming.
 
roaf85 said:
You don't have to do any of that stuff? You can trade in on Amazon, print a label and schedule a shipment via UPS or you can print and pay postage on USPS and sell your game on eBay.
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And wait a few days!
 
PC gaming is perfect just for the fact it allows easy key mapping, etc. I have to change most games right off the bat as I play with WSER instead of WSAD.
 
TwistedAegis said:
PC gaming is perfect just for the fact it allows easy key mapping, etc. I have to change most games right off the bat as I play with WSER instead of WSAD.
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Why the hell do you do that if you don't mind my asking?
 
My basic setup is SDF Mouse2. A is always for some type of alternate fire... (Mouse 2 is forward)
 
TwistedAegis said:
PC gaming is perfect just for the fact it allows easy key mapping, etc. I have to change most games right off the bat as I play with WSER instead of WSAD.
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esdf, rdfg, werd, ertf these all make sense to me(I use esdf). But wser doesn't make sense at all. I imagine w is strafe left e is forward r is strafe right s is back or is it w is forward s is back e is strafe left with r being strafe right?
 
roaf85 said:
You don't have to do any of that stuff? You can trade in on Amazon, print a label and schedule a shipment via UPS or you can print and pay postage on USPS and sell your game on eBay.
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All of which is still more difficult than buying a game from Steam, further proving the point of the person you quoted.
 
rtd said:
esdf, rdfg, werd, ertf these all make sense to me(I use esdf). But wser doesn't make sense at all. I imagine w is strafe left e is forward r is strafe right s is back or is it w is forward s is back e is strafe left with r being strafe right?
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I would assume the latter. I tried it out for a bit and it requires some finger contortion to work, but I guess if it works for him, what the hell, right?

That doesn't mean he isn't a total nutbar, of course ;)
 
I think his ring finger controls forward and back. Not really much different from wasd. It just switched roles with the middle finger.

Mine is QWES, the first game that had me using the left part of the keyboard was a hovertank simulator, and naturally mapped the keypad there. Turnleft=LeftArrow/A; Turnright=RightArrow/D; That left Q and E for straffing, and it's been that way since.
 
Banyan said:
to each their own but i can relate to the op.
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I think anyone that's been gaming on PCs for any length of time can relate to the OP. I've been gaming on PCs for going on 30 years now, and it's SIGNIFICANTLY easier now than it was then overall. Sure there are problems, but on a simple single card, single GPU system they are by far the exception and when combined with Windows 7 my backup gaming rig just doesn't have issues running games, it's just drop dead simple with Steam especially. Hell I have had more issues running OmniPage 17.

The issues I have with PC gaming these days are virtually all related to running exotic hardware, yeah that can get complicated. Keeping SLI and 3D Surround smooth takes some work, no doubt about it, that's why I keep a backup i7 920 with a single 480 and 1920x1200 monitor. I never have issues with it.
 
heatlesssun said:
it's just drop dead simple with Steam especially.
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steam is great and all as long as you don't have to retrieve your account; then that ease of use becomes a nightmare as their customer service, for an app some people have hundreds of dollars tied up in, is nonexistent. i've been awaiting their reply to my ticket for about four days now and think, once i get all my keys, i'm done with steam.

now my decision is whether or not to sign up for xbox live.
 
PC gaming is where its at. Best graphics, best controls, best community, able to mod. I started with a surround set-up earlier this year and that just furthered my belief that PC gaming is much more superior. The only thing I have my PS3 for is console/PS3 exclusives and Blu-ray/Netflix. Other than that I game on my PC 90% of the time.

While it may be expensive, its not hard to save up for. I'm still an undergraduate in college and I work 32 hours part time and am able to afford all my living expenses, booze money, girlfriend expenses and PC/Gaming expenses. While I don't have an uber 3x30" quad-SLI set-up, this system definitely is more than enough for me and most enthusiast gamers.

PC GAMING (AND STEAM SALES) FTW! :D
 
eat2na said:
I find it frustrating that you can't just buy a PC game install it and be playing in a few minutes with max resolution and everything smooth.
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Consoles may be easier at times, but if you think you're getting 'max resolution' and 'smooth' on most console games, you're kidding yourself.

Others here have already pointed out that in a majority of console games the resolution is typically something like 600p, sometimes less, and upscaled to either 720p or 1080p. The FPS is also typically capped at 30fps instead of 60, not to mention there are plenty of games where even steady a 30fps isn't going to happen. And let's not even get into the whole low-res-textures covered up by excessive bloom, HDR, bump-mapping, & depth-of-field effects. The 'vasoline on the camera lens' effect does not good graphics make.

Yes, PC games often require a little more work, but as far as most of us are concerned, it's well worth it when we can play games in TRUE 1080p or more (or even eyefinity + 3D for that matter), and all at 60fps.
 
exlink said:
While it may be expensive, its not hard to save up for. I'm still an undergraduate in college and I work 32 hours part time and am able to afford all my living expenses, booze money, girlfriend expenses and PC/Gaming expenses. While I don't have an uber 3x30" quad-SLI set-up, this system definitely is more than enough for me and most enthusiast gamers.
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Price can be subjective, you may hesitate spending $300.00 for a console, but won't blink about dropping $700 for a PC that you use for a lot more than gaming. Some of us use the PC for work so it actually helps us have fun *and* make money. PC gaming is just more practical.
 
I love PC gaming. But I Hate gaming on my PC. Does that make sense?
 
pigwalk said:
I love PC gaming. But I Hate gaming on my PC. Does that make sense?
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Well, lately I've been pretending my PC is a high end console. Plug it into the TV, and use a wireless mouse/keyboard (or gamepad where appropraite), and I get all the comforts of a console with the power of a PC. (And to those of you who say your PC is nowhere near your TV, there are solutions for that!)

The one main issue I have is that certain games need to have an option to make the text bigger. 10 pt font, even on a 50" TV, is not that readable, especially if you're sitting 20 ft away.
 
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Nytegard said:
Well, lately I've been pretending my PC is a high end console. Plug it into the TV, and use a wireless mouse/keyboard (or gamepad where appropraite), and I get all the comforts of a console with the power of a PC. (And to those of you who say your PC is nowhere near your TV, there are solutions for that!)
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Zomg! Your PC is transsexual!

One of the lamer excuses used by people to rationalize why they think consoles are better to game on. Yeah....I can plug a TV and a gamepad into my PC as well.
 
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defiant007 said:
Zomg! Your PC is transsexual!

One of the lamer excuses used by people to rationalize why they think consoles are better to game on. Yeah....I can plug a TV and a gamepad into my PC as well.
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Exactly, I have been doing this for quite a while, just run a HDMI cable to the other side of the room in my TV and use a wireless 360 controller. If I need some mouse control I have a tiny remote for that. I'm not so set in my ways that I would force a mouse and keyboard on the couch though. :p
 
ehh. I don't do much tweaking these days. I normally just wait until a game breaks, update my drivers, and then it's good to go.
 
I had just the opposite experience. Tried switching over to console gaming briefly after PC gaming for 15 years and it just doesn't do it for me. I don't really like most of the games (too simple) and the low framerates bothered me. Built a new PC and happy again while my consoles collect dust.
 
Dan_D said:
This happened to me far too many times.



I used the AWE32 and AWE64 Gold eventually. But yeah, getting that crap to work in DOS wasn't a whole lot of fun.
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I had one issue getting Star Wars: X-Wing to work under DOS with my AWE32. Other then that, my AWE32 under dos worked decently. It was not until Windows 95 install of 12 disks that the AWE32 really shined eventually...

I used that card until the SoundBlaster Live 5.1 came out...
 
Zero82z said:
All of which is still more difficult than buying a game from Steam, further proving the point of the person you quoted.
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Or you can just go trade in games at the store if you afford to leave your house.

You have to remember console gaming still have downloadable games on the Xbox and PSN.

Sure it may take an extra step to go to the store and trade in a game, but you have residual value on the worst investment outside of cars.

The used game market is huge otherwise you wouldn't have companies like EA posting Online Passes with new games and companies like Gamestop posting record profits.

Just like coupon shopping in the economy these days people are looking to cut back on entertainment. If the price point for 60 dollars was there why does every release game have a 10 dollar off or a automatic price drop due to competition? Because none of these companies are expecting to move close to million games at 60 dollar price point.

I am not saying PC gaming is dead, just that more people will switch from PC gaming to console as more console games are released with crappy PC ports and gamers save money by playing games on the console.

If it wasn't for Blizzard though I would say PC gaming might be in a decline though.
 
roaf85 said:
I am not saying PC gaming is dead, just that more people will switch from PC gaming to console as more console games are released with crappy PC ports and gamers save money by playing games on the console.
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People have been saying that for years now though. There may be less quality PC games these days, especially as it takes longer and longer to develop AAA titles due to the increased overall complexity of graphic engines and level/world design, but I would hardly say it's dieing either.

The argument that HD gaming on consoles is cheaper has been around for years as well, yet people tend to forget that they may have easily dropped $5,000 or more for that big screen HDTV & surround sound system.
 
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