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You don't have to be a WoW player or deaf to sympathize with this guy. Makes you want to get a couple of your buddies and go raid the guild leader's dungeon (mom's basement) and kick his ass. :mad:

I recently had an accident that resulted in the permanent lose of my hearing. The last few months have been the hardest i have ever known. I have had to deal with never listening to music and talking to people has become exhausting. Its become that most people i thought were my friends just didn't want to deal with me anymore as i had become inconvenient. I felt more alone than ever.
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After that i cried. I didn't know what to do, who to turn to. I tried joining up with some other guilds but their response to why i can't use vent went about the same.
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I'm not sure this is something worth crying over.
 
newsflash: people are worthless and selfish.

shocking.

now that I am done people bashing, it would suck to lose a sense you had your whole life, even without people being shits.
 
just move on, i went back to playing WoW and i realize that alot of these people need to be removed form the gene pool. its the internet, they have no accountability and are generally a buncha prick bastards, just try and find a understanding guild, they are out there u just have to look.
 
Find a better guild.

Some of the top guilds in the world don't even use voice programs because they feel text is harder to forget what you're told. My guild works either way, we use Vent but don't require it if someone can't do it for whatever reason.
 
I think he was crying because it was a bit a final straw for him. I can't imagine losing my hearing suddenly, it would change everything... driving, conversing with others, if I wanted to retreat into a game for a while and then got the boot there to, I might break down a bit as well. I hope some intrepid wow guilds decide to give his old guild hell.
 
The worst part is it seems like his guild was a bunch of halfass scrubs. If all they ever cleared was 10 naxx why the fuck did anybody pay for a vent server for that shit?

Vent should only be required if you are a hardcore top raiding guild shooting for server firsts. DBM makes all the content so trivial i dont get people relying on vent. I always went in the channel muted it and listened to music.
 
Aside from the dramatization going on here, I don't see why he would be surprised. If he was in the guild for years, he knows that they use Vent, and very likely knew those people were selfish. So either every single other person in the guild needed to change to accommodate him being deaf, or he needed to go somewhere else.
 
phide said:
I'm not sure this is something worth crying over.
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it may not seem like it, but he's already dealing with losing his hearing which probably has him distraught enough. all this rejection is just salt in the wound.
 
We had 2 deaf people and myself, with moderate hearing impairment, in my Everquest guild. Raided the very best of the best. There was no trouble at all, the people were very classy.
 
dogbyte_13 said:
just move on, i went back to playing WoW and i realize that alot of these people need to be removed form the gene pool.
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Same is true for all MMO's. I went back to playing Anarchy Online for a little bit to see if I had any interest in picking the game up again. Had a 30 day free period because I hadn't played in a while so I poked around a bit. My old guild had an ingame-to-IRC channel relay, so you could join the IRC channel and talk to people ingame through it. Like most IRCers, I just set my client to join and forgot about it.

I checked up on it later to find that I had been purged from the guild because sitting in the chat was "suspicious" and that I was being a jackhole for not saying hello every time I ping timedout from IRC and autoreconnected.

Then I remember why I quietly quit when I did: People were idiots (the President thought kicking me from the org would remove me from IRC) and everything was always drama.

Fuck MMOs. I don't want to have to keep paying for something to keep what ultimately has no value in the end... and in addition to that, putting up with a bunch of greedy, paranoid nolifers who use MMOs as their personal this-is-my-vengeance-because-life-sucks stomping ground.
 
ocellaris said:
Aside from the dramatization going on here, I don't see why he would be surprised. If he was in the guild for years, he knows that they use Vent, and very likely knew those people were selfish. So either every single other person in the guild needed to change to accommodate him being deaf, or he needed to go somewhere else.
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Are you serious? The whole guild didnt need to change shit. If you think Vent is required to raid you are a fucking scrub plain and simple. Between blizzards built in warnings and DBM if you need to be told to get out of the fire you shouldnt be raiding in the first place.

At worst one guy would have to type something in chat for him. Its no inconvenience to the whole guild. :rolleyes:
 
ocellaris said:
Aside from the dramatization going on here, I don't see why he would be surprised. If he was in the guild for years, he knows that they use Vent, and very likely knew those people were selfish. So either every single other person in the guild needed to change to accommodate him being deaf, or he needed to go somewhere else.
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Change to accomodate him how? Reading text? God forbid the retarded children playing WoW today actually have to read a few lines of text here and there.....Holy fuck, what a ridiculous world we live in.
 
ocellaris said:
Aside from the dramatization going on here, I don't see why he would be surprised. If he was in the guild for years, he knows that they use Vent, and very likely knew those people were selfish. So either all ten people in the raid group needed to change to accommodate him being deaf, or he needed to go somewhere else.
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FTFY
 
Maybe he should try LotRO, people seem to be of a different type in that game. I only played it for a little while, but folks were always a bit better than your run-of-the-mill MMO player.
 
Disposed said:
Are you serious? The whole guild didnt need to change shit. If you think Vent is required to raid you are a fucking scrub plain and simple. Between blizzards built in warnings and DBM if you need to be told to get out of the fire you shouldnt be raiding in the first place.

At worst one guy would have to type something in chat for him. Its no inconvenience to the whole guild. :rolleyes:
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I do not think Vent is required to play however a lot of people do think Vent is required and they feel the need to use it.

Also anyone in a guild for years has had plenty of time to figure out that everyone else was probably a bunch of jerks.
 
Losing your hearing, and having to learn new skills to communicate is bad enough, but to have your so called friends turn away from you, and to add insult to injury drop you from social events like WoW (you get together for a raid, and have fun=event) is just crappy, glad his brother is helping him out, and from the looks of it, a lot of people feel the same way.
 
ocellaris said:
Aside from the dramatization going on here, I don't see why he would be surprised. If he was in the guild for years, he knows that they use Vent, and very likely knew those people were selfish. So either every single other person in the guild needed to change to accommodate him being deaf, or he needed to go somewhere else.
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Are you the one who booted him?
 
He didn't get kicked because he was deaf, he got kicked because the leadership in his guild (possibly the other members too) are assholes.
 
jflail2 said:
Change to accomodate him how? Reading text? God forbid the retarded children playing WoW today actually have to read a few lines of text here and there.....Holy fuck, what a ridiculous world we live in.
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Correct, people do not want to do crazy shit like "typing" and "being considerate to other people" unless they absolutely have to. MMOs and other games give people a shield of anonymity that they can crouch behind and be total jerks to everyone else if someone might inconvenience them for 2 seconds a night.

The real story here isn't that he was booted. The real story is that he figured his e-friends were not really his friends.
 
ocellaris said:
I do not think Vent is required to play however a lot of people do think Vent is required and they feel the need to use it.

Also anyone in a guild for years has had plenty of time to figure out that everyone else was probably a bunch of jerks.
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Because you can always get an accurate read on an anonymous name on the internet. :rolleyes:

Thats just a really stupid line of logic right there. All you ever know of the anonymous peoples of the web is what they want you to see. The people that seem the nicest can turn in a heartbeat the second they find you an inconvenience. Seen it dozens of times in MMOs.
 
I played WoW for a few months in 2005. That's right, when it was brand new.
I quit because it quickly became the domain of ass-clowns.
It seems like this fellow (hereafter now known as Deaf-Cry!) has discovered the same change.
 
I've went through this previously in a sense.

You tell someone what when tragedy hits you, and people have no idea how to handle it. They just kinda like, they have to make jokes, because they can't grasp the idea of loss.

They're basically void of any idea of worth, they base their own self value around shiny pixels, and when its crunch time to man up. They fold like a house of cards.

The funny thing is, even with somewhat of a handicap, I'm still better than the ones that were first in line to throw mud ;)
 
Quikstrumental said:
Are you the one who booted him?
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Nope, but I can tell you that I have been in guilds where someone going deaf would have gotten a swift boot in the ass since they would be considered useless at that point. The guild I am in now would be fine with it and just work around it. For some people WoW is serious business.
 
Disposed said:
Because you can always get an accurate read on an anonymous name on the internet. :rolleyes:

Thats just a really stupid line of logic right there. All you ever know of the anonymous peoples of the web is what they want you to see. The people that seem the nicest can turn in a heartbeat the second they find you an inconvenience. Seen it dozens of times in MMOs.
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If he was around people in his guild for years, I am sure he has seen some of their behavior when dealing with other people that inconvenience the guild. I am sure this was not a matter of reach arounds and puppy dog happiness for 4 years, then people instantly turned into jerks when he went deaf.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
Maybe he should try LotRO, people seem to be of a different type in that game. I only played it for a little while, but folks were always a bit better than your run-of-the-mill MMO player.
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I gotta agree there... not sure if it's because only older people like LOTR or what, but I found the general age of players was much higher then any other i'd tried before... still couldn't keep me interested longer then 2 weeks tho.
 
I'm deaf, and I've never had a problem Main Tanking for my guilds when I played WoW, I just told the guild leader to let me show him what I can do and I did my part when the original MT they had fucked up and died and I had to jump in and MT in the middle of a fight and we downed the last boss in Naxx cause of my HEROIC DEEDZ

lawls gg

being deaf isn't the end of the world, either you pick your friends and who you hang around wisely or you end up just being a useless tool.

But seriously it's like anything else in life

if people don't want to be around you, you do NOT need to change yourself in order to fit in, just look for other people who accept you for who you are and then be around those people.

It doesn't hurt that i'm a naturally nice guy, I like helping out and i'm rather generous.

However, I quit WoW.

I know when I play Magic the Gathering in new card stores I haven't been to, i get looked at because I wear a hearing aid, well that happened to me just TODAY when I went into a card shop I haven't been in before and played MTG in person for the first time in 7-8 years (I quit around Invasion cause my local shop closed). I bought the cards I wanted for my deck.

The guy had a Jace the Mind Sculptor which was worth more than my whole deck. He was flustered when he lost to me 2 out of 3 games. I just shook his hand after each game (including the one i lost) and looked him in the eye and said good game.

He walked outside to smoke with the card store owner and I overheard him just as he was going outside "I got too greedy . . ."

lol

BTW, most deaf people are normal, fully functional people, all they have that you don't is the inability to hear.

Jon855 is a great example of that, he put up a trike video of him getting on a trike and going 44 mph down a hill on it.

There's plenty of examples out there.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
Maybe he should try LotRO, people seem to be of a different type in that game. I only played it for a little while, but folks were always a bit better than your run-of-the-mill MMO player.
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Good point right here. I played LOTRO for months, in a pretty large Kinship, everyone helped everyone else, discussions were all mature, there was never any drama... It was like being on another planet compared to WoW (which is barely better than playing CoD on XBox Live).
 
ocellaris said:
Nope, but I can tell you that I have been in guilds where someone going deaf would have gotten a swift boot in the ass since they would be considered useless at that point. The guild I am in now would be fine with it and just work around it. For some people WoW is serious business.
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Its just a fucking video game. No reason to get serious about it at all. I hate that portion of the MMO crowd. They need to get over themselves and play a game to have fun, its not some life and death struggle.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
Maybe he should try LotRO, people seem to be of a different type in that game. I only played it for a little while, but folks were always a bit better than your run-of-the-mill MMO player.
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LordCalin said:
I gotta agree there... not sure if it's because only older people like LOTR or what, but I found the general age of players was much higher then any other i'd tried before... still couldn't keep me interested longer then 2 weeks tho.
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LOVE lotro and would have agreed a year ago but since the f2p change the community has really gone downhill.
 
you do NOT need Vent to play WoW, i'm living proof of it

anytime I was ever asked to be on vent, I declined, when asked, either I said I was deaf (which I am) or I said I simply did not want to listen to people yelling and shouting in my ear (which if I have my hearing aid on, I have no interest in).
 
Not to be mean, but if I joined and didn't use vent, I would be kicked by the same guy. And I'm not even deaf. That's just the way he wants to run things.

I have sympathy for the guy who wrote the post, but this isn't the first or last time people aren't going to go out of their way to help him.
 
Yeah. I've kicked people from runs that didn't use vent in many games I've played. Certain activities in multiplayer team games require voice chat.

No sympathy, sorry.
 
You people aren't even looking at the obvious here.

He's been in the guild for years.
He gets in an accident/sick and loses his hearing permanently.

Do you think that there was not a recovery time for this? So after he recovers/readjusts to live again he decides to log on. More then likely his spot in raids (if you want to call naxx 10 that) had been filled.

He's told he can't raid because he can't use vent (more then likely the guild leader doesn't want to be put in the spot of bumping the guy who filled his spot while he was away *yes, the guild leader is a pussy*)... and he has a heated argument with the guild leader because he's told he can't raid... then he gets booted. Albeit, his guild leader is an assclown for booting.. but none of us know what was said between the two before he was booted.

It stinks that this guy had one of the few precious gifts we all take for advantage removed from his life, but hopefully he learns to deal with it and find people who better his life.
 
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