Crucial Refurb SSDs: 64GB $64, 128GB $128, 256GB $256

bacon said:
A 30 day warranty on anything over $100 is not a good deal.
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bastage said:
So you buy a used anything electronic you wont spend over 100 bucks. Because its not likely going to have a warranty. I have bought Large TV's Computer parts & just about anything else tech wise used regardless of the warranty because a deal is a deal.
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Solid state drives aren't exactly reliable to begin with. This is one of those products where I personally don't think that the gamble is worth it.
 
Buy one and tell me what crystal disk says in a couple of months, nevermind in a year. You might want to look into the firmware issues that Crucial as well as most other manufaturers have had in the past year. Makes Seagate look reliable imo.

MLC flash isn't that reliable. There is a reason that you don't see these in the enterprise market.
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
Buy one and tell me what crystal disk says in a couple of months, nevermind in a year. You might want to look into the firmware issues that Crucial as well as most other manufaturers have had in the past year. Makes Seagate look reliable imo.

MLC flash isn't that reliable. There is a reason that you don't see these in the enterprise market.
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I'm assuming you're talking about the issues with the JMicron controllers that the first generation of SSD's had. However, the majority of SSD makers switced from the JMicron to the Indilinx controller, and I don't think Intel had any trouble at all with their SSD's from the get go. Now we have the Sandforce controller in the newest SSD's and they are throwing out some very impressive read/write numbers. I'm not saying crucial has their shit together, but to say that solid states aren't reliable without showing us why isn't going to change my mind that I wont be going back to a mech drive as my OS drive ever again.
 
I have not had one issue with my Intel SSD and I've had it for the greater part of a year now. A great purchase IMO
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
Buy one and tell me what crystal disk says in a couple of months, nevermind in a year. You might want to look into the firmware issues that Crucial as well as most other manufaturers have had in the past year. Makes Seagate look reliable imo.

MLC flash isn't that reliable. There is a reason that you don't see these in the enterprise market.
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lol
 
arcanetripwire said:
I'm assuming you're talking about the issues with the JMicron controllers that the first generation of SSD's had. However, the majority of SSD makers switced from the JMicron to the Indilinx controller, and I don't think Intel had any trouble at all with their SSD's from the get go. Now we have the Sandforce controller in the newest SSD's and they are throwing out some very impressive read/write numbers. I'm not saying crucial has their shit together, but to say that solid states aren't reliable without showing us why isn't going to change my mind that I wont be going back to a mech drive as my OS drive ever again.
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Crucial has had issues recently with firmware. probably why they had all of the refurb drives. OCZ had issues with the 1.5 firmware on the Vertex series, to name one.
Dark Shade said:
I have not had one issue with my Intel SSD and I've had it for the greater part of a year now. A great purchase IMO
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Really how many drives did Intel brick with a firmware update to that drive?

Guys Google is your friend. Anyone who says a SSD is as reliable as a normal platter has their head in the sand. There is a huge thread with a lot of good links in the storage section. This is one of those product where I would want a warrenty. I had to use one with the only SSD that I have ever owned. I never had to do that with a hard drive.
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
Crucial has had issues recently with firmware. probably why they had all of the refurb drives. OCZ had issues with the 1.5 firmware on the Vertex series, to name one.

Really how many drives did Intel brick with a firmware update to that drive?

Guys Google is your friend. Anyone who says a SSD is as reliable as a normal platter has their head in the sand. There is a huge thread with a lot of good links in the storage section. This is one of those product where I would want a warrenty. I had to use one with the only SSD that I have ever owned. I never had to do that with a hard drive.
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BababooeyHTJ said:
Buy one and tell me what crystal disk says in a couple of months, nevermind in a year. You might want to look into the firmware issues that Crucial as well as most other manufaturers have had in the past year. Makes Seagate look reliable imo.

MLC flash isn't that reliable. There is a reason that you don't see these in the enterprise market.
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I've owned my Crucial M225 256GB SSD for over a year, it's still just as fast with the latest firmware. Thanks to newer wear-leveling algorithms in these newer SSD's, MLC is fairly reliable. Sorry to hear you got a lemon, but that doesn't mean the entire product category is bunk. It came with a five-year warranty, but as far as products in general go, SSD's aren't "risky" like you're portraying them.
 
krylon said:
Cool story bro. We all like hearing about you ripping people off. Next?
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I think you need to get a better grasp on reality outside of forums before claiming someone is ripping his friend off when that's clearly not the case (let alone if there wasn't extra work to do, it STILL wouldn't be ripping him off).
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
Solid state drives aren't exactly reliable to begin with. This is one of those products where I personally don't think that the gamble is worth it.
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Man SSD's are one of the most reliable parts in a computer. & Comparing an SSD's reliability to a seagate is just asinine.
 
bastage said:
Man SSD's are one of the most reliable parts in a computer. & Comparing an SSD's reliability to a seagate is just asinine.
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:rolleyes: What do you base that opinion on? Why will you see more Seagate drive in the enterprise market? Thats right comparing a SSD to a seagate drive is asinine since a recent Seagate drive is far more reliable.

Don't do any tweaks to your OS when you install a SSD and open up cristaldisk a year later and tell me what the drive life looks like.

GoldenTiger said:
I've owned my Crucial M225 256GB SSD for over a year, it's still just as fast with the latest firmware. Thanks to newer wear-leveling algorithms in these newer SSD's, MLC is fairly reliable. Sorry to hear you got a lemon, but that doesn't mean the entire product category is bunk. It came with a five-year warranty, but as far as products in general go, SSD's aren't "risky" like you're portraying them.
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No. I agree with you the 64GB drive was a good deal, really good deal. I would have to think about the 128GB drive but I couldn't fathom spending $256 on an MLC based Indilinx SSD with no warranty, personally.
 
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BababooeyHTJ said:
:rolleyes: What do you base that opinion on? Why will you see more Seagate drive in the enterprise market? Thats right comparing a SSD to a seagate drive is asinine since a recent Seagate drive is far more reliable.
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Well since these aren't Enterprise class SSD's you have no point. Beyond that after owning several SSD's & a crapton of Seagate drives I can tell you that I have never had a bad SSD. But I have had to RMA probably 15 or so total Seagate drives.

Its common knowledge that less moving parts = more reliable. & an ssd has no moving parts compared to a finicky fragile platter in a mechanical drive.


BababooeyHTJ said:
Don't do any tweaks to your OS when you install a SSD and open up cristaldisk a year later and tell me what the drive life looks like.
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& Then lets go gaming without installing your video card drivers. Or see how fast you can surf the net with no Ethernet drivers installed.

Part of installing hardware is making sure the rest of your system can play nice with it.
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
Crucial has had issues recently with firmware. probably why they had all of the refurb drives. OCZ had issues with the 1.5 firmware on the Vertex series, to name one.

Really how many drives did Intel brick with a firmware update to that drive?

Guys Google is your friend. Anyone who says a SSD is as reliable as a normal platter has their head in the sand. There is a huge thread with a lot of good links in the storage section. This is one of those product where I would want a warrenty. I had to use one with the only SSD that I have ever owned. I never had to do that with a hard drive.
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Honestly you are the one with your head in the sand. Firmware updates aren't required and usually are issued to solve minor issues much like a bios update, my ssd (kingston 64gb) has never had a firmware update issued. You are basing the reliability based on something that is out of the control of the manufacturer (bad user flashes) or the manufacturer just sucks at making good firmware (not a problem with ssd's but the manufacturer). How many mobos are bricked because of bad user flashes quite a few. Choose a good company that doesn't need to release firmware every so often, the ocz drive I owned was far from stealer, I don't blame ssds but ocz for making a crap drive. There are a few platter drives with firmware updates and those too have been bricked and seagates have horrible reliability now, ibm's and maxtors also had horrible reliablity. I have seen hundreds more dead laptop hdds than ssds, an hdd just can't take the physical abuse a ssd can. I guess if you are constantly updating the firmware you would have a point. But if you pick a good ssd you shouldn't have any problems.
 
If they are the real ssd I will get one, if they are cheaper ones, no thanks, the last $60 60gb ssd i bought (gskill) crapped out twice in a month, waiting on the 2nd replacement from newegg.
 
huh... hard to say if they would be that unreliable.. not even sure what they would repair on these to make them refurbs.. maybe recover them from a bad flash? regardless with a 30 day warr that is not so hot after all.. :(
 
revenant said:
huh... hard to say if they would be that unreliable.. not even sure what they would repair on these to make them refurbs.. maybe recover them from a bad flash? regardless with a 30 day warr that is not so hot after all.. :(
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That's my guess is bad firmware flashes.
 
I'm willing to take the plunge if i can get one ordered in time. Would be nice if they offered a longer warranty, but it would be worth the cost.

I do not know how their normal warranty is, but it would be like buying a used drive from someone or a drive off fleabay. Most manufacturers will not transfer the warranty.

I would imagine the drives should meet the specs of the current drives and possibly have the latest firmware on them. I have had good luck with refurbished products in the past; so its not too big a deal for me.
 
INFRNL said:
I'm willing to take the plunge if i can get one ordered in time. Would be nice if they offered a longer warranty, but it would be worth the cost.

I do not know how their normal warranty is, but it would be like buying a used drive from someone or a drive off fleabay. Most manufacturers will not transfer the warranty.

I would imagine the drives should meet the specs of the current drives and possibly have the latest firmware on them. I have had good luck with refurbished products in the past; so its not too big a deal for me.
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Not entirely true with ebay drives, the manufacturers that go by "manufacturer's date" warranty as opposed to your receipt's warranty will still take drives and RMA them. Of course, it'll be smart of you to keep quiet that you purchased your drive off ebay. Here it's just a flatout 30 day warranty, so it's keeping me pondering.
I really would like to try out the 64GB one, anyone have any input on how these are? Seeing as how the thread starts at September, how have those people fared with their drives?
 
Not entirely true with ebay drives, the manufacturers that go by "manufacturer's date" warranty as opposed to your receipt's warranty will still take drives and RMA them. Of course, it'll be smart of you to keep quiet that you purchased your drive off ebay.
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Intel checked the serial numbers of my drives to see if they were sold by an authorized dealer.
 
munkle said:
If they are the real ssd I will get one, if they are cheaper ones, no thanks, the last $60 60gb ssd i bought (gskill) crapped out twice in a month, waiting on the 2nd replacement from newegg.
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Not the RealSSD series, they are M225 drives :(
 
Zuht said:
Not the RealSSD series, they are M225 drives :(
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Right. The original email said RealSSD, but they've since posted this message on their site:

(The Crucial newsletter referred to refurbished RealSSD parts. The SSD $1/GB promotion features refurbished M225 SSDs. We apologize for the confusion.)
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IMO, it isn't worth the risk for the older, slower M225 series.
 
KenF said:
Right. The original email said RealSSD, but they've since posted this message on their site:



IMO, it isn't worth the risk for the older, slower M225 series.
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That sucks, I wanted the c300...

Still may be a good deal for others. Looks like I am going to have to find a deal on a C300 drive.

Good luck to all that jump on this tomorrow
 
My Auto Shop Bot is at the ready. Programmed, double checked and running on two machines. I got a few of these last time around. I just want 3 of the 64gig versions this time.
 
This is a screaming deal for anything we have seen so far. These use the illindux barefoot (sp?) controller, so while its not as fast as the modern sandforce or c300 drives its no slouch either. I will be watching like a hawk & if I cant score a 100GB+ sandforce based drive (or c300) for $1/GB then I will be ordering a 128gb one of these. My Current x25v is just too small. As far as the warranty goes Crucial is a stand up company (I have to think so though since they are local to me & my brother in law works for them).
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
Crucial has had issues recently with firmware. probably why they had all of the refurb drives. OCZ had issues with the 1.5 firmware on the Vertex series, to name one.

Really how many drives did Intel brick with a firmware update to that drive?

Guys Google is your friend. Anyone who says a SSD is as reliable as a normal platter has their head in the sand. There is a huge thread with a lot of good links in the storage section. This is one of those product where I would want a warrenty. I had to use one with the only SSD that I have ever owned. I never had to do that with a hard drive.
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Wait, your comparing SSD to what A SAN system? Ok so SSD's are not typially used these, instead you pay 15k for about 4TB of data across numberous spinning disks. Not really a fair comparison. Regular Hard drives are not used either.
 
So these are going to be M225 SSDs with 1916 firmware?

Outside of them being refurbished, are they good SSD's? I guess I don't totally understand the SLC vs MMC and Indilinx vs Jmicron issue. I know Jmicron controllers used to be poor and the Indilinx were OK.
 
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