Dell 3008wfp Panel type

rawilliam

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Cannot seem to find a clear answer to this question. Does this monitor utilize an S-IPS or an H-IPS LCD?
 
Agreed, awhile some seem to think it's an H-IPS - every verifiable source I can find states it being an S-IPS.
 
are H-IPS better than S-IPS then?

Better? Hmm - well, different might be the best way to put it, H-IPS is a newer technology than S-IPS

Essentially, it has to do with the way the pixels are placed against one another - in theory, H-IPS should have higher quality because the pixels are closer to one another. In reality? Most (even really discerning individuals) won't notice the difference.
 
It's an S-IPS

30"WS LG.Philips S-IPS (LM300WQ5) < from TFTCentral.co.uk panel database.

It does not suffer nearly as much with off-angle black color "white wash" as H-IPS panels do, so I would agree based on that observation.
 
NOw what we need is even less or no AG coating on the screen.

No we don't. I'm sorry but glossy displays suck. Unless you like to sit with your computer in total darkness all the time or just don't seem to notice glare it just doesn't work very well. A 30" LCD has a ton of real estate to show reflections and glare. It makes the displays nearly unusable in even normal light. No thanks.
 
No we don't. I'm sorry but glossy displays suck. Unless you like to sit with your computer in total darkness all the time or just don't seem to notice glare it just doesn't work very well. A 30" LCD has a ton of real estate to show reflections and glare. It makes the displays nearly unusable in even normal light. No thanks.

Agreed.
 
I think a better AG coating with less graininess would be good, if nothing more than to satisfy the folks that can't stand it and post about it ad nauseum :p
 
But at least dont make the AG coating sparker and looking thru a muddy screen. That is what I see in the 3007. The 3008 is there, but not so bad.
 
I'm all for better anti-glare coatings. I'm always for improved technology but the anti-glare coating in some form or another is almost always a must have for these displays. Yeah the colors....blah blah blah...............whatever. I don't care about the colors if the glare distracts me and makes the display hard to look at. I also can't stand to sit in the dark all the time and stare at a monitor with a 1000:1+ contrast ratio. It makes my eyes feel like they are bleeding.

I've got a glossy screen on my laptop and I used to have to use it indoors inside office buildings which were very brightly lit. Every day my eyeballs hurt and I'd end up with a headache. Screw that.
 
I wonder that some of you dont like glossy 30" screen, then how do people like Plasma screen or Samsung HDTV is all glossy screen.
 
I wonder that some of you dont like glossy 30" screen, then how do people like Plasma screen or Samsung HDTV is all glossy screen.

I'd rather them not be glossy. Those I also sit farther away from and I'm more inclined to watch them in the dark.
 
I also prefer non glossy because sometimes I get a headache from seeing two images(reflection and the regular image on the monitor). I don't mind it too much either way but I would take the matte.
 
I don't know where this comes from, the 3008WFP has H-IPS and this has been known for years...

It has the same panel as the LG W3000H and the Nec 3090WQXi. All of them are H-IPS.
In other words, the LM300WQ5 panel is H-IPS.

Tftcentral doesn't seem to distinguish between S-IPS and H-IPS in this case. And many others don't distinguish between them either, *everyone* knows what S-IPS is so anything IPS often becomes S-IPS and I guess manufacturers doesn't want to miss the extra PR they can get by just stating S-IPS.
Just as numerous e-IPS panels have been labeled S-IPS (and the difference between e-IPS and S-IPS is huge compared to S-IPS and H-IPS). The LM300WQ5 is probably among the first panels to sport H-IPS (at least targeted to us mortals).

And you could probably say that H-IPS is S-IPS.

That the monitors above all have the same panel is also well known (see tftcentral) so that the Nec 3090 has H-IPS should be proof enough that all of them (including 3008WFP) has H-IPS:
Nec 3090 has H-IPS: http://nec3090wqxi-test.blogspot.com/

And if that wasn't enough, here is an comparison between the 3008WFP (H-IPS) and the S-IPS version of the 2007WFP:
http://privat.bahnhof.se/wb895093/3008wfp/hips_vs_sips.png

And I think I've seen a sample of the pixel structure of the W3000H as well but don't know where :(

Nice thread with images of S-IPS and H-IPS (but not much more in terms of the 3008WFP):
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1262785

That said I wouldn't say that H-IPS is any better in practice. I guess that you can get away with a cheaper (and/or better) backlight if the larger pixel area results in higher transparency. As of late we have the e-IPS and H2-IPS(?), don't know how it affects the quality but it seems that the main focus is to bring IPS tech. down in price and that might result in compromises in picture quality.
I wouldn't choose H-IPS (or *-IPS) over S-IPS just because H-IPS is a newer technology.
 
I don't know where this comes from, the 3008WFP has H-IPS and this has been known for years...

It has the same panel as the LG W3000H and the Nec 3090WQXi. All of them are H-IPS.
In other words, the LM300WQ5 panel is H-IPS.

Tftcentral doesn't seem to distinguish between S-IPS and H-IPS in this case. And many others don't distinguish between them either, *everyone* knows what S-IPS is so anything IPS often becomes S-IPS and I guess manufacturers doesn't want to miss the extra PR they can get by just stating S-IPS.
Just as numerous e-IPS panels have been labeled S-IPS (and the difference between e-IPS and S-IPS is huge compared to S-IPS and H-IPS). The LM300WQ5 is probably among the first panels to sport H-IPS (at least targeted to us mortals).

And you could probably say that H-IPS is S-IPS.

That the monitors above all have the same panel is also well known (see tftcentral) so that the Nec 3090 has H-IPS should be proof enough that all of them (including 3008WFP) has H-IPS:
Nec 3090 has H-IPS: http://nec3090wqxi-test.blogspot.com/

And if that wasn't enough, here is an comparison between the 3008WFP (H-IPS) and the S-IPS version of the 2007WFP:
http://privat.bahnhof.se/wb895093/3008wfp/hips_vs_sips.png

And I think I've seen a sample of the pixel structure of the W3000H as well but don't know where :(

Nice thread with images of S-IPS and H-IPS (but not much more in terms of the 3008WFP):
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1262785

That said I wouldn't say that H-IPS is any better in practice. I guess that you can get away with a cheaper (and/or better) backlight if the larger pixel area results in higher transparency. As of late we have the e-IPS and H2-IPS(?), don't know how it affects the quality but it seems that the main focus is to bring IPS tech. down in price and that might result in compromises in picture quality.
I wouldn't choose H-IPS (or *-IPS) over S-IPS just because H-IPS is a newer technology.


And this is where all the confusion sets in - while I agree, it looks like an H-IPS - any and all places that list the tech specs seem to state S-IPS

But yeah, when you consider the panel, and look at macro pictures of the pixels, it does tend to make one think its an H-IPS

either way, I don't think it really matters
 
And this is where all the confusion sets in - while I agree, it looks like an H-IPS - any and all places that list the tech specs seem to state S-IPS

But yeah, when you consider the panel, and look at macro pictures of the pixels, it does tend to make one think its an H-IPS

either way, I don't think it really matters

True. But you can't put any faith in specification sheets...

Display manufacturers are utterly hopeless, not only do they blatantly lie about specs they also get them just plain wrong.

There was some hype around a 30" 4:3 monitor, just because some manufacturer said it was 4:3 and not 16:10 on the spec sheet. And thats not something unusual. Thet get wrong on resolutions (that doesn't even match the aspect ratio), the aspect ratio and just about anything imaginable (even screen-size!). So I don't get why people would put any faith in the spec sheets at all, especially about something as detailed as the panel-type.
 
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