NSCTripleAgent
Limp Gawd
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Anyone on XBL can shoot me a friend request or find me for a game, preferablt competitive. Just put in there you're from here, I decline people I don't know.
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I'm still liking T. Hawk as my main. However last night I encountered some weirdness with Guile's air-throw. I got tossed cleanly out of both my Tomahawk Dive (actually moving down...not the starting animation) and Rising Tomahawk (while still rising). I've never had anything like that happen before.
Guile in general seems to be better, just based upon playing against him.
I'm maining hawk too. But yeah, his dive and dp are both really easy to stuff, even with air throws...both moves require a good read to land or a well spaced whiff to help get in. EX dp is great to get out of a corner though. Guile is easily one of his worst matchups.
Any tips for ibuki? I am trying to get better with her to be my backup for when I want a change up from gouken.
Yeah, I'm encountering TONS of Guiles.
This has a lot to do with Daigo playing Guile at a tournament and saying he's going to main him in SSFIV.
Ah...too funny. In all honesty I can't say I've even encountered more than one good one to date, and his only real strength was full-on mastery of the timing on Guile's air throw.
As far as good players go, I've run into a few Guy players that had uncanny precision and a few Abel's, too. I still have yet to play anyone using Seth, and he was a character I had a hell of a time playing against in normal SF4...so I guess that's a good thing.
The Zangief lariat scrubs have all disappeared, thankfully, too.
Domingo, you play on Xbox? Because I'd like to try my Guile at you.
Nah, I'm on the PS3. I just prefer the default controller, and since I've been using it since the SNES days I'm just as good with a pad as I am with a stick. I've even gotten the 360 motions down, which took the most time.
Guile's tough - no doubt about it. It's just weird to see so many of them all of a sudden, and most players have absolutely no idea what to do when someone closes in on them.
In general, the absolute LAST thing you should ever try against T. Hawk or Zangief is Guile's low HK. If you don't knock someone down on that first kick you're in big trouble. Ditto for a bunch of jabs followed by a sonic boom. If more people would stop doing those two things they'd be better off.
To add to all of the Ibuki talk - I've noticed that she can beat out T. Hawk and Zangief tics with her grab and your timing doesn't even need to be great. Ditto if she knows they're going for a grab after blocking something of hers. I can just about guarantee if you play Ibuki you'll be able to get some free hits on Zangief/T. Hawk players the first time you play that way.
Ibuki doesn't have a grab though. That can be blocked.
It can be blocked, but if the other player is going for their grab (like a SPD) - hers will always beat it. I talked to one guy about it for a while and we tried about a half dozen scenarios and her grab (I think it's from forward to back + punch) grabbed me every time, even when I buffered T. Hawk's grab and Zangief's SPD.
I tried it after he would do 2-3 jabs, after I'd do a low jab tic myself, and even off of a blind jump.
Even if it's blockable, it's no worse than the grappler's "whiff" animation.
lol Domingo's right. I tried throwing Ibuki's "throw" move and it just doesn't work. I love it when I can bait her slide throw move cuz they are expecting me to throw a sonic boom. XD That throw is super good though. I get caught by it right when I land with Guile's Back+MK move.
I have no idea what the properties of that move are like, but I just it can make an overzealous grappler's life hell In the case of T. Hawk, he'll even turn yellow for his EX grab and it looks like she's going to get launched...but the next thing you know she grabs him instead. The guy I was practicing with said the timing wasn't strict at all.
I always remember the early SF2 games where the timing needed to beat Zangief's tic was VERY strict. Now...not so much unless his tic hit actually lands.
How do I do an EX Cancel without attacking? Often times, for example with Ryu, I will do a dragon punch, connect, and try to EX Cancel out of it. A lot of times Ryu will cancel out of it but also will punch. How do I prevent that?
It appears that the whiners have finally come out of the woodwork. Seems every time I beat someone C-rank or above I get hate mail. Even a few times when I'd fire off GG mails people would send some diatribe back about how "all I know how to do is throw" or something to that effect.
I had one guy fire back at me after a compliment just because he was so used to getting hate e-mails he didn't even read it.
Oh Street Fighter...how you seem to make people so angry.
Heh. I suck but I know I suck. Although I do tend to blame my controller (360 nubs, I swear it's making me "jump" when I just want to do a half circle or whatever...but that's my excuse and I'm stickin to it!!) I find it funny when I do get my rare wins people bitching at me. I'm like...you realize you jsut suck a lot more than me! I'm just here to have fun and don't really care about fighting badasses. I'll get my lucky combo wins here and there and eventually get good enough.
For me, no matter whether I win or lose I don't really feel the need to talk shit to anyone. Sure, I'll reply if called out - but why send insulting messages...especially after you've gotten beat? There are days when I'm not playing well and I might lose to a spaz and there are days when I've stomped a mudhole in players that are 10x better than me. I don't really find the need to ever send anything beyond compliments or even questions about why something did/didn't work.
Yesterday I played for about 30 minutes and I must've gotten 5 different insulting mails from people all playing the likes of Dudley and Ryu while I'm using the "lowly" T. Hawk and E. Honda.
I don't claim to be great or anything, but I'm a big jump over a masher or spaz.
For me, no matter whether I win or lose I don't really feel the need to talk shit to anyone. Sure, I'll reply if called out - but why send insulting messages...especially after you've gotten beat? There are days when I'm not playing well and I might lose to a spaz and there are days when I've stomped a mudhole in players that are 10x better than me. I don't really find the need to ever send anything beyond compliments or even questions about why something did/didn't work.
Yesterday I played for about 30 minutes and I must've gotten 5 different insulting mails from people all playing the likes of Dudley and Ryu while I'm using the "lowly" T. Hawk and E. Honda.
I don't claim to be great or anything, but I'm a big jump over a masher or spaz.
Heh. I suck but I know I suck. Although I do tend to blame my controller (360 nubs, I swear it's making me "jump" when I just want to do a half circle or whatever...but that's my excuse and I'm stickin to it!!) I find it funny when I do get my rare wins people bitching at me. I'm like...you realize you jsut suck a lot more than me! I'm just here to have fun and don't really care about fighting badasses. I'll get my lucky combo wins here and there and eventually get good enough.
The funniest one to date was a guy who kept playing very timidly with Guile and Juri. He spent his entire matches complaining about how all I do is "use big people and keep trying to throw me and do the same 2 cheap moves." Of course his entire strategy to stopping it involved running like hell and saying "aw - come on!"
After 2 losses he kicked me for "not knowing how to play the game."
You mean you were performing a special move more than once??! Man that is just below the belt.....
I think I've decided to use Vega more, he seems to have been beefed up quite a bit from vanilla 4, really liking DeeJay too but I'm just shit with him.....my whole problem with 4 as a whole is I play old skool, no FA's etc so I'm really needing to get some practice into using that more.
Invest in a stick, seriously. You can pick up HRAP3's for ~$100, or used Mad Catz TE's for the same on craigslist. Your game will improve, guaranteed.
You can get an hrap SA for 114 at arcade shock, already has all sanwa parts.