Opera Browsers Exceed 100 Million Users

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The Opera browsers are now used by more than 100 million people worldwide. After reaching this milestone in March 2010, there are 50 million Opera lovers on Windows, Mac and Linux computers, as well as 50 million people using Opera Mini on a wide variety of handsets each month. Year-on-year growth for Opera browser on desktop now stands at over 30 percent, measured from March 2009 to March 2010. The number of desktop users was measured during March 2010, resulting in an unprecedented 50 million unique active users. In addition, many more Opera users can be found browsing the Web on their game consoles, connected TVs and set-top boxes.
 
Opera Mini browser on Nokia E63 that uses Symbian is much much better then native Nokia browser.
 
The default browser on my Samsung Omnia SCH-910 is Opera, it's ok; I used it for a while. But now I am using Skyfire, which has semi-functional flash player abilities.
 
I have used Opera as my primary OS browser for years, I even ran it at work with a USB thumbdrive. I just didn't like Firebox.
 
I've always liked opera's products. opera mini/mobile was very nice despite my q9c not being able to handle it. but that is not opera's fault. that is motorola's for neutering a good windows mobile phone.

however I must say that the latest pc browser they put out recently has left me feeling like they are just putting out a new version for the sake of putting one out. I have not had good luck with it. I hope others who've tried it have fared better.
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I've always been a fan of Operas. I also have been frustrated and infuriated at times... but I always come back ; )

Their innovation, leadership, and mobile products are just brilliant that is why most of the others just copy them.
 
SamuraiInBlack said:
however I must say that the latest pc browser they put out recently has left me feeling like they are just putting out a new version for the sake of putting one out. I have not had good luck with it. I hope others who've tried it have fared better.
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Same, I had to downgrade from 10.5 to 10.1
 
Downloads != Users. I guess they're spying on everyone, how else do they know they've got millions of users. :p

Opera Mini is great software! The desktop browser is... ugly. Do they have Opera Mini for desktops?
 
MixPix said:
Downloads != Users. I guess they're spying on everyone, how else do they know they've got millions of users. :p
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"The number of desktop users was measured during March 2010, resulting in an unprecedented 50 million unique active users."

Many sites track browser usage. The question is, which sites did Opera use for this measurement, and did they extrapolate that percentage to the total estimated user base?
 
10.5 is great.
Opera has been my main browser for a few years now. The zooming engine is unmatched, its the fastest browser and I cant live without mouse gestures anymore. Hell, I catch myself doing gestures while going through folders on my computer. I wish Windows had a similar feature.
 
MixPix said:
Downloads != Users. I guess they're spying on everyone, how else do they know they've got millions of users. :p
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It's really easy, actually. Mozilla calculates the number based on automatic checks for updates. Opera can do the same thing. No need to spy.

I agree, downloads != users, but that is not what this story is about. It's about actual active users.

The desktop browser is... ugly.
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Have you seen 10.50?
 
srangara said:
"The number of desktop users was measured during March 2010, resulting in an unprecedented 50 million unique active users."

Many sites track browser usage. The question is, which sites did Opera use for this measurement, and did they extrapolate that percentage to the total estimated user base?
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They didn't use any sites. They probably did what Mozilla does, and simply keet track of browsers checking automatically for updates.

fps4ever said:
Bullshit...no way no how....PR making up magic numbers.
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Again, there is a way to know: Automatic update checks.

Also, Opera is required by law to be truthful about these things because it's a publicly traded company, and answers to its investors and the law.
 
Opera has always been a hit or miss with me...just when I like it they change it...just when I hate it...they change it...rinse, repeat.
 
nowie said:
They didn't use any sites. They probably did what Mozilla does, and simply keet track of browsers checking automatically for updates.


Again, there is a way to know: Automatic update checks.

Also, Opera is required by law to be truthful about these things because it's a publicly traded company, and answers to its investors and the law.
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Umm....required by who's laws....and what country? We all know companies are honest and always tell the truth to investors, right? The old saying goes, there are lies, damed lies and statistics.

Exactly what is the name of this law and where do they get the exact numbers from? Automatic updates are just as worthless as any other method. At best it's an educated guesstimate.....and I say 100m users my arse!
 
LeviathanZERO said:
and I cant live without mouse gestures anymore. Hell, I catch myself doing gestures while going through folders on my computer. I wish Windows had a similar feature.
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Heh, don't even get me starting on wanting mouse gestures in the OS itself. I have caught myself trying to use mouse gestures in the OS for years thanks to Opera. While I haven't used Opera as my primary browser for years, it was what got me addicted to tabbed browsing and mouse gestures. This was long before Firefox and back when Opera was still a paid browser. I definitely got my money's worth out of it.

 
srangara said:
Windows 7 has a couple. And I'm sure more will be coming, assuming they haven't all been patented by Apple.
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Yeah, those aren't even remotely close to what I want mouse gestures for.
I want use in explorer, how you can go back and forward by holding mouse2 and flicking the mouse left or right in Opera, I want to go through my folders like that. That would save me such an incredible amount of time navigating through archives and files on my computer.

As neat as those window management gestures are, they are kinda useless, except maybe the side by side resizing. I actually use that...
 
fps4ever said:
Umm....required by who's laws....and what country? We all know companies are honest and always tell the truth to investors, right? The old saying goes, there are lies, damed lies and statistics.
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I agree that the browser statistics you are seeing out there is flawed, but Opera is not just doing statistics. They are counting the actual number of users. And if Opera wanted to lie, you would have thought they would have inflated the numbers a bit more, don't you think?

Opera is a Norwegian company, and as you know, that country is not exactly known to cut companies slack if they do stupid things like lying to its investors. And surely you are not saying that companies are allowed to lie to its investors? That there are no laws preventing them from doing so?

Exactly what is the name of this law and where do they get the exact numbers from? Automatic updates are just as worthless as any other method. At best it's an educated guesstimate.....and I say 100m users my arse!
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Automatic updates are not at all worthless. When the software checks for updates with regular intervals they can keep track of that and pretty easily figure out how many users there are. Mozilla does the same thing. Are you saying that Mozilla is lying, too?
 
nowie said:
I agree that the browser statistics you are seeing out there is flawed, but Opera is not just doing statistics. They are counting the actual number of users. And if Opera wanted to lie, you would have thought they would have inflated the numbers a bit more, don't you think?

Opera is a Norwegian company, and as you know, that country is not exactly known to cut companies slack if they do stupid things like lying to its investors. And surely you are not saying that companies are allowed to lie to its investors? That there are no laws preventing them from doing so?


Automatic updates are not at all worthless. When the software checks for updates with regular intervals they can keep track of that and pretty easily figure out how many users there are. Mozilla does the same thing. Are you saying that Mozilla is lying, too?
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Yes...I'd say Mozilla's numbers are as accurate as Opera's...and that is just a guesstimate. And if you think corporations don't stretch the truth or keep info from investors that is just plain ignorance on your part.

Again...who says they can't make up magic numbers...and who is going to disprove them when there is no clear way to know what the actual numbers are? One thing I will say is there is no chance in hades that they have 50 million pc/mac/linux users...although mobile phone numbers may be more accurate, but again who knows.
 
fps4ever said:
Yes...I'd say Mozilla's numbers are as accurate as Opera's...and that is just a guesstimate. And if you think corporations don't stretch the truth or keep info from investors that is just plain ignorance on your part.

Again...who says they can't make up magic numbers...and who is going to disprove them when there is no clear way to know what the actual numbers are? One thing I will say is there is no chance in hades that they have 50 million pc/mac/linux users...although mobile phone numbers may be more accurate, but again who knows.
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And why is this such a concern for you? That you adamantly must believe that Opera is not as popular as claimed?
 
I will believe it when they show some sort of proof. Just coming out and saying "hey look we have 100 million users" Sounds fishy to me.

I really do wonder at people that take announcements like this and dont question the authenticity of it. It reeks of marketing bullshit.
 
Disposed said:
Yes, why would it matter less?
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What is so hard to believe?
They are on almost every Nintendo Wii. The DSi also has Opera. WinMo has Opera, as does every other phone OS I can think of. They also are 4th in market share of the PC browser market. Tell me how that would NOT equate to at least 100 million... Sounds about right to me.
 
fps4ever said:
Yes...I'd say Mozilla's numbers are as accurate as Opera's...and that is just a guesstimate. And if you think corporations don't stretch the truth or keep info from investors that is just plain ignorance on your part.
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No, the numbers are not just a guess. Browsers check automatically for new updates, and this can easily be used to count user. Mozilla does it. Google does it for Chrome. Opera does it too.

Why would Opera stretch the truth? If they really wanted to lie to their investors and be fined and go bankrupt, they would have come up with better numbers than just 100 million, considering that they are the dominant mobile browser and all.

Again...who says they can't make up magic numbers...and who is going to disprove them when there is no clear way to know what the actual numbers are? One thing I will say is there is no chance in hades that they have 50 million pc/mac/linux users...although mobile phone numbers may be more accurate, but again who knows.
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Why would they make up numbers? There would be no point in that. They do indeed have 50 million users on desktop, because they have slowly built up to that since they removed the ads. They have in fact been reporting their user numbers regularly for several years.

So 50 million is not just something out of the blue. It's something that has followed a large number of slowly but steadily growing numbers on desktop.

And one thing they cannot lie about is desktop revenue. The desktop revenue has in fact increased along with the desktop user base.
 
Disposed said:
I will believe it when they show some sort of proof. Just coming out and saying "hey look we have 100 million users" Sounds fishy to me.
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But they didn't just suddenly come out and say that. They have reported financial results such as revenue and profits along the way, which has shown the same kind of growth.

I really do wonder at people that take announcements like this and dont question the authenticity of it. It reeks of marketing bullshit.
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It does not reek of marketing bullshit. As a matter of fact, most of Opera's reports on user numbers have been directly to their own investors, not through marketing announcements. It just so happens that what Opera reports to its investors is also published in their financial reports section since they are a publicly traded company.
 
nowie said:
But they didn't just suddenly come out and say that. They have reported financial results such as revenue and profits along the way, which has shown the same kind of growth.
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Do you have something to back this up or are you just regurgitating bullshit about your beloved browser again?


nowie said:
It does not reek of marketing bullshit. As a matter of fact, most of Opera's reports on user numbers have been directly to their own investors, not through marketing announcements. It just so happens that what Opera reports to its investors is also published in their financial reports section since they are a publicly traded company.
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Which is exactly why they would stretch the truth.

Im not saying its really far fetched im just saying without some proof i will remain skeptical. You guys that are vehemently defending opera on this gather some proof or at least explain why you are so certain it is real.

Arguing back and forth trying to convince people with nothing more than your blind trust for a company is getting pretty old.
 
Disposed said:
Do you have something to back this up or are you just regurgitating bullshit about your beloved browser again?
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Since you insist on behaving like a child, I will not give you anything other than simply point you to Opera's site, where you can easily look up the investors section and their financial reports for yourself.

Which is exactly why they would stretch the truth.
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We are talking actual revenue reports here. Stuff that's tightly controlled because the government wants to make sure it gets all the taxes it can. There's no stretching the truth there. Especially since Opera is a Norwegian company, and Norway is not exactly known for letting corporations roam freely.

Im not saying its really far fetched im just saying without some proof i will remain skeptical. You guys that are vehemently defending opera on this gather some proof or at least explain why you are so certain it is real.

Arguing back and forth trying to convince people with nothing more than your blind trust for a company is getting pretty old.
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There is no blind trust here. Opera has a history of honesty, and I have seen Opera report on these numbers for several years. It has been a steady growth, and not sudden and mysterious bursts.

There's basically no reason to doubt the numbers, especially since the revenue they have been reporting has grown along with the user base.
 
nowie said:
There is no blind trust here. Opera has a history of honesty, and I have seen Opera report on these numbers for several years. It has been a steady growth, and not sudden and mysterious bursts.

There's basically no reason to doubt the numbers, especially since the revenue they have been reporting has grown along with the user base.
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Where are these numbers? Since you have seen them you should have no problem pointing them out...

Like i said until i see proof i will remain skeptical. You want to prove your fucking point link to these reports. You sating "I have seen this and i have seen that" is not proof in any way shape or form.

Your stupid arguments just make me doubt it even more. Why argue when you could make a simple link to end all the debate?
 
Disposed said:
Where are these numbers? Since you have seen them you should have no problem pointing them out...

Like i said until i see proof i will remain skeptical. You want to prove your fucking point link to these reports. You sating "I have seen this and i have seen that" is not proof in any way shape or form.

Your stupid arguments just make me doubt it even more. Why argue when you could make a simple link to end all the debate?
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Why is this such a big issue for you?
 
Disposed said:
Its not... All i said is i will remain skeptical until some proof is shown and i get a bunch of stupid fanboy responses yet still no proof.
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So, because the other individual feels differently (and he explained to you why he feels differently) that makes him a fanboy?

You know, this kind of thing goes both ways. If you want to make such statements, there's nothing like disproving his point. With facts, just like you're asking.
 
setekh said:
So, because the other individual feels differently (and he explained to you why he feels differently) that makes him a fanboy?

You know, this kind of thing goes both ways. If you want to make such statements, there's nothing like disproving his point. With facts, just like you're asking.
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Considering its not a matter of opinion, yes i believe so. I didnt ask for his opinion i asked for some proof. How else can you interpret someone trying to shove his opinions off on you when all you asked for was some proof?

It does not go both ways. When someone makes a large announcement such as this with no proof its asinine to tell the skeptical to prove them wrong because they refuse to supply any proof.

If someone comes around making bold claims and wont back it up its not a good argument to go saying "well prove them wrong". Thats a stupid cop out for someone with no facts to back up their shit up.
 
Disposed said:
]Considering its not a matter of opinion, yes i believe so[/B]. I didnt ask for his opinion i asked for some proof. How else can you interpret someone trying to shove his opinions off on you when all you asked for was some proof?

It does not go both ways. When someone makes a large announcement such as this with no proof its asinine to tell the skeptical to prove them wrong because they refuse to supply any proof.

If someone comes around making bold claims and wont back it up its not a good argument to go saying "well prove them wrong". Thats a stupid cop out for someone with no facts to back up their shit up.
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I find it to be a matter of opinion, yes, since it wasn't him who made the announcement but a third party. You find that information dubious and he doesn't (providing reasons for doing so).

Also, it is unfair to ask for information that is very unlikely to become public in a shape other than a press release or deem the other party's point invalid.
 
setekh said:
I find it to be a matter of opinion, yes, since it wasn't him who made the announcement but a third party. You find that information dubious and he doesn't (providing reasons for doing so).
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No its not. I said until i see PROOF i will remain skeptical. That is not an invitation to hear someones fucking opinion on why they believe it without question.

setekh said:
Also, it is unfair to ask for information that is very unlikely to become public in a shape other than a press release or deem the other party's point invalid.
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But here you have nowie constantly citing these "reports" that has him totally convinced yet hes unable to link them?

Its not unrealistic to expect a little more than what they gave.

I deem the points being made invalid because i asked for PROOF not their OPINIONS.

Now unless you have some actual proof to show me, go away and let the topic get back on track.
 
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