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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 Final Specs & Pricing Revealed
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Commander Suzdal
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But that's the problem--they aren't obvious facts if they aren't facts. Rumors, leaks, and educated guesses aren't facts. You have seen FUD that supports your worldview, and you have embraced it because it tastes great and goes down smooth. That doesn't make it real. If it turns out to be real, then we'll talk about that when it happens.
... and yet Fermi is not a failure in any way shape or form
Nvidia has now leapfrogged ahead of ATi; we have to wait until Northern Islands to see what AMD Next Gen graphics architecture looks like. In the meantime, we will probably see the current ATi product high end refresh .
explain to me HOW the GF100 is a gen a head of ATi atm?
from what i can tell its the same gen as the 5x00 line
if your talking about how well it can do tessellation thats nice but doesnt help if its slower in games out now
by the time that matters ATi and NV will have another card out
again im not impressed but will see next week end
now if i can just find another GTX260 216core i can skip this whole mess and wait it out...
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I love how people turn the delay into some sort of positive.
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fact #1: It's 7+ months late
fact #2: from what has been leaked it is not significantly faster than Ati's offering that have been available for 6+ months
fact#3: No availablity until 04-06-10 as stated by Nvidia.
need I say more?
Whats really funny is all the early adopters lining up to get owned. I can already see the "Fermi set my entire PC on fire" threads coming.
Joking aside, has there been any recent info about the "Fermi-Approved" cases?
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Step back from the crack pipe and reassess your life.... and yet Fermi is not a failure in any way shape or form
Nvidia has now leapfrogged ahead of ATi; we have to wait until Northern Islands to see what AMD Next Gen graphics architecture looks like. In the meantime, we will probably see the current ATi product high end refresh .
Nvidia has not sold a single current card that had "leapfrogged" anything but the imagination of fanbois. nVidia is currently butthurt thats all.
By the time nVidia makes a dx11 part we will be looking at DX 12 specs. WAY too late in the ball game and really f*cked the consumers for leaving only one GPU company to set prices.You think people wont think twice about running SLI with a toaster oven in the case? As for folding with SLI and the new cards, you couldn't get me to sleep with that thing running in my house at night. I can see scorched outlets and buss fuses in the future.
250W TDP ...
Anyone have any input on weather my PP&C 750 Watt will be able to handle a GTX 480?
http://www.amazon.com/Cooling-S75QB-Silencer-power-Certified/dp/B000S34B9U
my computer:
Asus Rampage Formula (x48 chipset)
Q9450 @ 3.46 GHz and slightly upped voltage
4GB DDR2
Some sound card
Dell PERC 6/i RAID SAS/SATA RAID card
~4x WD Green 1.5TB Hard Drives
LG BD / HDDVD reader, DVD Writer
7 120mm fans
wireless mouse, keyboard
wireless HTPC remote
Oh, and I'd like the headroom to be able to overclock and perhaps overvolt the GTX 480 ...
Anyone have any input on weather my PP&C 750 Watt will be able to handle a GTX 480?
http://www.amazon.com/Cooling-S75QB-Silencer-power-Certified/dp/B000S34B9U
my computer:
Asus Rampage Formula (x48 chipset)
Q9450 @ 3.46 GHz and slightly upped voltage
4GB DDR2
Some sound card
Dell PERC 6/i RAID SAS/SATA RAID card
~4x WD Green 1.5TB Hard Drives
LG BD / HDDVD reader, DVD Writer
7 120mm fans
wireless mouse, keyboard
wireless HTPC remote
Oh, and I'd like the headroom to be able to overclock and perhaps overvolt the GTX 480 ...
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It will handle it fine: I have run an i7 920 @ 3.72ghz, 6gb ddr3, 5870 (before it was a GTX 280 oc'd, now it's going to be a GTX 470 or 480), with 7 120mm case fans, 3 hdd's, 1 SSD, x-fi xtremegamer, dvdrw, etc. on my corsair hx 520w without issue for quite awhile. A firingsquad review I saw showed it as being a ~430watt draw from the wall roughly with a similar setup sans the multiple hard drives. Subtract the 20% or so efficiency loss from AC to DC conversion and the PSU is only being taxed around 350-360w for that hardware. The review was for a 5870. With a GTX 480 oc'd you'll probably come somewhere around 450w draw. Your PSU is of good quality.
People vastly overestimate the PSU's they need without having done the research
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Latest news from Beyond3D pins the GTX 470 @ 10% faster on average than a 5870. I am interested to see how a 480 performs at 2560x1600. I was being tempted back towards a 480 thinking the 470 might come in slower, but I might just save the extra cash and go for the 470... hmmm. http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1411264&postcount=4463 (Member has been a very reliable source in the past)
People vastly overestimate the PSU's they need without having done the research
.Latest news from Beyond3D pins the GTX 470 @ 10% faster on average than a 5870. I am interested to see how a 480 performs at 2560x1600
. I was being tempted back towards a 480 thinking the 470 might come in slower, but I might just save the extra cash and go for the 470... hmmm. http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1411264&postcount=4463 (Member has been a very reliable source in the past)
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Why should i explain when you will be able to see for yourself on Friday
it is impossible that Nvidia would release a top card that is slower than 5870
Why should i explain when you will be able to see for yourself on Friday
it is impossible that Nvidia would release a top card that is slower than 5870
Its happened before. But regardless, that doesn't make it a generation ahead of the 5870.
It will handle it fine: I have run an i7 920 @ 3.72ghz, 6gb ddr3, 5870 (before it was a GTX 280 oc'd, now it's going to be a GTX 470 or 480), with 7 120mm case fans, 3 hdd's, 1 SSD, x-fi xtremegamer, dvdrw, etc. on my corsair hx 520w without issue for quite awhile. A firingsquad review I saw showed it as being a ~430watt draw from the wall roughly with a similar setup sans the multiple hard drives. Subtract the 20% or so efficiency loss from AC to DC conversion and the PSU is only being taxed around 350-360w for that hardware. The review was for a 5870. With a GTX 480 oc'd you'll probably come somewhere around 450w draw. Your PSU is of good quality.
People vastly overestimate the PSU's they need without having done the research
Latest news from Beyond3D pins the GTX 470 @ 10% faster on average than a 5870. I am interested to see how a 480 performs at 2560x1600
Wow, if the 470 really is 10% faster on avg than a 5870 and going to sell @ 349 then it's a pretty good deal.
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It will handle it fine: I have run an i7 920 @ 3.72ghz, 6gb ddr3, 5870 (before it was a GTX 280 oc'd, now it's going to be a GTX 470 or 480), with 7 120mm case fans, 3 hdd's, 1 SSD, x-fi xtremegamer, dvdrw, etc. on my corsair hx 520w without issue for quite awhile. A firingsquad review I saw showed it as being a ~430watt draw from the wall roughly with a similar setup sans the multiple hard drives. Subtract the 20% or so efficiency loss from AC to DC conversion and the PSU is only being taxed around 350-360w for that hardware. The review was for a 5870. With a GTX 480 oc'd you'll probably come somewhere around 450w draw. Your PSU is of good quality.
People vastly overestimate the PSU's they need without having done the research
Latest news from Beyond3D pins the GTX 470 @ 10% faster on average than a 5870. I am interested to see how a 480 performs at 2560x1600
we all know nVidia runs better in the Crysis's benchmark time demo, but actual game experience is totally another story, and its flavor ATi on Very High setting.
If this is true by 10%, then I have no doubt that he is either bench under very high resolution with AA on to take that lead, while 5870 doesn't have enough VRAM to handle it.
If its like a normal resolution around 1050-1080, then he is either smoking it hard or somehow nVidia pull out the magic wand....
Why should i explain when you will be able to see for yourself on Friday
it is impossible that Nvidia would release a top card that is slower than 5870
7 months late is not leapfrogging, especially when its going to have the exact same features and a possible speed increase ... well lets hope its a speed increase.
Let me explain this one more time:
Fermi is Nvidia's Next Generation architecture for 2010/2011 which was definitely late as far as bringing DX11 to GeForce
- they will build on GF100 until their entire lineup is out and then they will refresh that line-up
AMD is working on their own Next Generation architecture for 2011; out maybe late this year
- in the meantime AMD will refresh 5xx0 series which is a DX11 extension of the 4000 series
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.....you serious?
anyways, can't wait for these cards to come out, gonna try to snag a 470.
this still not making any sense, since G80-GT200 been use for a long time, then why can't we say they are on par on generation? or maybe nVidia just caught up? or maybe even slower..
the logic is quite weird there...
we can't say ANYTHING about the generation, because they have different time line, road map from each other... saying one generation ahead or behind is totally none sense...
I think that's what apoppin meant to emphasize. Although it's late, Fermi is still nVidia's next generation architecture. Everybody understand now?
Latest power consumption numbers for the 5XXX series: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gpu-power-consumption-2010_3.html
About 170 for the 5870 on crysis warhead. I wonder what the 470 & 480 would bring.
About 170 for the 5870 on crysis warhead. I wonder what the 470 & 480 would bring.
Because Nvidia had to completely rework their GPU. They couldn't just add a tessellator and a DX11 front end without unbalancing it for future revisions.
In other words, if they just tacked on DX11 to GT200 and gave it a speed bump they would be at a stop after that. However, with Fermi and a complete reworking of the G80 GPU compute architecture with an emphasis on tessellation, they can now build on GF100 for a few more generations and a future process shrink.
At one point, AMD has to stop refreshing 5000 series and come up with 6000 series which will be their own "from the ground up" DX11 architecture and a much more major reworking than what we have seen since 2900 series.
Neither way is superior. They both end up with fast competitive graphics and Nvidia admits they are late; they wanted to launch Fermi with Win 7. For the last few months, AMD has been the only DX11 game in town.
and that still make no one is ahead of a generation, you cannot compare when two things are totally different.
The performance and the feature sets will be compared very shortly.
DX11 is DX11 is DX11
other then a few things like PhysX and CUDA if its DX11 it MUST support all of DX11
so who cares? we already know what features it will have
The performance and the feature sets will be compared very shortly.
Features:
DX11 vs. DX11 (tie)
nFinity vs. Eyefinity (Eyefinity wins!)
CUDA/PhysX + open standards vs. open standards (CUDA/PhysX wins!)
Overall verdict? Depends on if you like CUDA/PhysX or single card triple monitors more.
So that just leaves performance - which is all anybody was waiting for anyway.
You forget near-future games. Two games based on Unigine Engine will be out this year.
Do you really think Nvidia is going to release GTX 470/480 slower than their AMD counterparts?
And add 3D Surround to Nvidia's feature set
-- if you are gonna need SLi, you might as well go all the way with 3 x 1080 120 MHz LCDs for gaming in 3D Surround or three thirty inch LCDs in 2D Surround
Do you really think Nvidia is going to release GTX 470/480 slower than their AMD counterparts?
And add 3D Surround to Nvidia's feature set
-- if you are gonna need SLi, you might as well go all the way with 3 x 1080 120 MHz LCDs for gaming in 3D Surround or three thirty inch LCDs in 2D Surround
You forget near-future games. Two games based on Unigine Engine will be out this year.
Do you really think Nvidia is going to release GTX 470/480 slower than their AMD counterparts?
And add 3D Surround to Nvidia's feature set
-- if you are gonna need SLi, you might as well go all the way with 3 x 1080 120 MHz LCDs for gaming in 3D Surround or three thirty inch LCDs in 2D Surround
using Unigine does not mean it will have massive tessellation.
also, so far without a legit benchmark we cannot be sure if this thing even outperform AMD's counterparts, especially when SP have been cut by 32...
and we don't know if AMD will come back with something like 5890...
Speak for yourself when you say "we"
it *appears* that AMD is going to give us a speed bump
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/3/3/sapphire-ready-to-launch-radeon-hd-5990-4gb.aspx
http://www.nordichardware.com/en/co...-counter-with-overclocked-radeon-hd-5870.html
it *appears* that AMD is going to give us a speed bump
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/3/3/sapphire-ready-to-launch-radeon-hd-5990-4gb.aspx
http://www.nordichardware.com/en/co...-counter-with-overclocked-radeon-hd-5870.html
Speak for yourself when you say "we"
it *appears* that AMD is going to give us a speed bump
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/3/3/sapphire-ready-to-launch-radeon-hd-5990-4gb.aspx
http://www.nordichardware.com/en/co...-counter-with-overclocked-radeon-hd-5870.html
dont think that is confirm, sounds like a FUD to me...
unless its officially announced, I talk it as a rumor...
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Actually this makes sense if its just an overclocked 5870. It's not like AMD hasn't had MONTHS to prepare for this.
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There probably won't be a 5890 anytime soon.
1) Anandtech's review of the Sapphire 5850 toxic: they asked why isn't there a 5870 Toxic. Sapphire's response: If AMD gets enough chips that can go over 875MHz reliably they will launch a higher end SKU. Right now we're seeing such 5870 factory overclocked models with 2GB announced all over the place.
2) The 4890 was released only as a 4870 that could overclock highly. The original R770 chips couldn't go more than 100MHz without a lot of effort. This isn't the same with Cypress.
1) Anandtech's review of the Sapphire 5850 toxic: they asked why isn't there a 5870 Toxic. Sapphire's response: If AMD gets enough chips that can go over 875MHz reliably they will launch a higher end SKU. Right now we're seeing such 5870 factory overclocked models with 2GB announced all over the place.
2) The 4890 was released only as a 4870 that could overclock highly. The original R770 chips couldn't go more than 100MHz without a lot of effort. This isn't the same with Cypress.
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Oh dear at the leapfrogging comments. Late, does not equal on a different timeline or road map. It means late.
Of course nvidia would have "tacked on" dx11 if they could have easily but they couldn't. Unlike ATI who obviously could. Wonder who had the better thought out architecture.
Of course that would be wrong as it makes nvidia look like they screwed up which they can't have.
Of course nvidia would have "tacked on" dx11 if they could have easily but they couldn't. Unlike ATI who obviously could. Wonder who had the better thought out architecture.
Of course that would be wrong as it makes nvidia look like they screwed up which they can't have.
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Some sites they may or may not release budget cards.
I think they should rebrand the 200 series to the 300 series and release Fermi 2 this fall instead.
I think they should rebrand the 200 series to the 300 series and release Fermi 2 this fall instead.
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They already have rebranded the 200 seires in the OEM market.
Are you seriously suggesting they continue that in the retail?
Are you seriously suggesting they continue that in the retail?