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And because they are strong words, does it make them wrong words too?
It is clear to me that this was blown way out of proportion before anyone knew what was going on.
"NewEgg is lying"
"NewEgg bought grey market goods"
"I saw the pictures..."
There is so much BS flying around.
All the pictures that I've seen have been OPENED BOXES! That means everyone who spotted the fakes had to do what? Open the boxes? Maybe install them in a computer? Do you want NewEgg or anyone else to sell only pre-opened boxes? Come on!
And I like the term "grey market goods". That's meant to imply that NewEgg buys from shady characters, and only now got caught. Pretty much assumes that some rogue employee didn't sit there and substitute fakes, and make off with the real thing. But hey I guess everybody on these forums has already done a full investigation, so we don't need to give NewEgg and law enforcement a chance to sort things out.
Then there are the, "NewEgg is lying" comments. Huh? I don't need to define a lie. If you're going off of the information you have it isn't a lie. There are statements that NewEgg themselves refered to it as both a Demo and Counterfit, but it actually takes a person to lie. Companies can't talk. So which person lied? Do you all really know what they knew at the time? Perhaps you heard from a misinformed person...
How about just letting it all play out, and reserve judgement until then. Kyle reported something happened. Great! All conspiracy theories are only theories until it all plays out.
The big news is that I think this proves that you geeks all have a serious caffeine problem, but I guess I knew that afterall.
"NewEgg is lying"
"NewEgg bought grey market goods"
"I saw the pictures..."
There is so much BS flying around.
All the pictures that I've seen have been OPENED BOXES! That means everyone who spotted the fakes had to do what? Open the boxes? Maybe install them in a computer? Do you want NewEgg or anyone else to sell only pre-opened boxes? Come on!
And I like the term "grey market goods". That's meant to imply that NewEgg buys from shady characters, and only now got caught. Pretty much assumes that some rogue employee didn't sit there and substitute fakes, and make off with the real thing. But hey I guess everybody on these forums has already done a full investigation, so we don't need to give NewEgg and law enforcement a chance to sort things out.
Then there are the, "NewEgg is lying" comments. Huh? I don't need to define a lie. If you're going off of the information you have it isn't a lie. There are statements that NewEgg themselves refered to it as both a Demo and Counterfit, but it actually takes a person to lie. Companies can't talk. So which person lied? Do you all really know what they knew at the time? Perhaps you heard from a misinformed person...
How about just letting it all play out, and reserve judgement until then. Kyle reported something happened. Great! All conspiracy theories are only theories until it all plays out.
The big news is that I think this proves that you geeks all have a serious caffeine problem, but I guess I knew that afterall.
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Exactly. These people should have just told the truth and explain everything. Why the need for C&D letters and legal threat
D&H is really retarded in handling the issue
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^With the popularity of the internet, you either break the story and add details or you're last to report.
What completely dumbfounds me is that some people here are seriously suggesting that Intel is at fault in this situation. They would rather believe that Intel created and sent these counterfeits out than apportion any blame to Newegg / distributors etc.
Really? I mean, really?
Really? I mean, really?
hey guys it wasnt D&H it was IPEX Kyle better get cracking on that retraction
http://gizmodo.com/5488699/newegg-confirms-that-counterfeit-intel-core-i7-processors-were-shipped
http://gizmodo.com/5488699/newegg-confirms-that-counterfeit-intel-core-i7-processors-were-shipped
It's either idiotic, stupid that people in here think that NewEgg would purposely pull this stunt and destroy their business and sent out fake CPU and thinking they could get away with it. I could understand if they were real CPU with a fake chipset to throw people off for a couple of days or weeks.
But come on, this is a fake thing right out of the box. What gain is NewEgg getting out of this???? So stop your stupid bitching about NewEgg. By the way. I've never bought anything from them so I'm not a fanboy.
But come on, this is a fake thing right out of the box. What gain is NewEgg getting out of this???? So stop your stupid bitching about NewEgg. By the way. I've never bought anything from them so I'm not a fanboy.
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Now that the egg has said DH was not the supplier, I'd be complying with that C&D letter ASAP. DH has a strong case for a lawsuit.
Exactly. These people should have just told the truth and explain everything. Why the need for C&D letters and legal threat
D&H is really retarded in handling the issue
If you read the text from the C&D orders, they basically say "we weren't involved with any of this, so cease and desist from wrongly spreading our name."
In the corporate world, when you need to "just tell the truth and explain everything" you use your lawyers.
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wow ..... They are still sticking with this lie?
Does Newegg even have a clue how much damage they are doing to their image.
I guess they think of of us "enthusiasts" are stupid. Part of being an enthusiast is being able to find the best item at the best price. And along with that comes years or trial and error.
What they are not understanding is that many if not all of us can smell a scam a mile away.
Trust us Newegg, your customers, who I might add helped you guys become as successful as you have know a scam when we see one.
Demo box my ass.
Keep it up. Stick with the lies ... I promise you, YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY RETAILER with good prices.
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Does Newegg even have a clue how much damage they are doing to their image.
I guess they think of of us "enthusiasts" are stupid. Part of being an enthusiast is being able to find the best item at the best price. And along with that comes years or trial and error.
What they are not understanding is that many if not all of us can smell a scam a mile away.
Trust us Newegg, your customers, who I might add helped you guys become as successful as you have know a scam when we see one.
Demo box my ass.
Keep it up. Stick with the lies ... I promise you, YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY RETAILER with good prices.
Assholes
Anyone think it's funny how the feature product on IPEX's website is the 2010 Core series from Intel?
www.ipexinfo.com
www.ipexinfo.com
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No employee discount there?
heheThis post would make a lot more sense if it were posted a few days ago. I'm guessing you've skipped a few dozen pages of reading?
As posted on Gizmodo (in partial):
"Initial information we received from our supplier, IPEX, stated that they had mistakenly shipped us "demo units." We have since come to discover the CPUs were counterfeit and are terminating our relationship with this supplier. Contrary to any speculation, D&H Distributing is not the vendor that supplied us with the Intel Core i7-920 CPUs in question."
It actually makes sense now... D and H sent out C and D letters because D and H wasn't the supplier.
You can bet that Intel will be following up with IPEX to determine where the counterfeits entered the supply chain...
I agree with Derangel...why in the hell didn't D&H just put out a damn press release saying the parts in question didn't come from them? It would gone over a hell of a lot better than having the lawyers shoot out C&Ds, which just fueled speculation that they were indeed involved and were stonewalling. For my part, if D&H indeed was not involved in this, I apologize for bashing them and speculating about their intentions.
BTW, I think I've found some info on IPEX (which took a little bit; they're definitely not a big player like D&H):
http://www.ipexinfo.com/
http://www.bbb.org/greater-san-fran...upplies-and-parts/lagoom-in-fremont-ca-206528
Only people at fault are the scumbags who perpetrated this and set it all up.
From Facebook:
Newegg is currently conducting a thorough investigation surrounding recent shipments of questionable Intel Core i7-920 CPUs purchased from Newegg.com.
Initial information we received from our supplier, IPEX, stated that they had mistakenly shipped us "demo units." We have since come to discover the CPUs were counterfeit and are terminating our relationship with this supplier. Contrary to any speculation, D&H Distributing is not the vendor that supplied us with the Intel Core i7-920 CPUs in question.
Neweggs top priority is to proactively reach out to all customers who may have been affected to ensure their absolute satisfaction. We have already sent out a number of replacement units and are doing everything in our power to resolve the matter promptly and with the least amount of inconvenience to our customers.
We have always taken pride in providing an exceptional experience for each customer, and we apologize for any inconvenience to our valued customers. We take matters like this extremely seriously, and are working in close cooperation with Intel and the appropriate law enforcement authorities to thoroughly investigate this incident.
Newegg is currently conducting a thorough investigation surrounding recent shipments of questionable Intel Core i7-920 CPUs purchased from Newegg.com.
Initial information we received from our supplier, IPEX, stated that they had mistakenly shipped us "demo units." We have since come to discover the CPUs were counterfeit and are terminating our relationship with this supplier. Contrary to any speculation, D&H Distributing is not the vendor that supplied us with the Intel Core i7-920 CPUs in question.
Neweggs top priority is to proactively reach out to all customers who may have been affected to ensure their absolute satisfaction. We have already sent out a number of replacement units and are doing everything in our power to resolve the matter promptly and with the least amount of inconvenience to our customers.
We have always taken pride in providing an exceptional experience for each customer, and we apologize for any inconvenience to our valued customers. We take matters like this extremely seriously, and are working in close cooperation with Intel and the appropriate law enforcement authorities to thoroughly investigate this incident.
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Want a tidy explanation?
Wow.. maybe they weren't trying to mislead us... NAh, burn them at the stake anyway, it's more entertaining and they are probably lying anyway.
newegg said:
Wow.. maybe they weren't trying to mislead us... NAh, burn them at the stake anyway, it's more entertaining and they are probably lying anyway.
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I'd dont think so.
Newegg was the one who said it was D&H not HardOCP,
DH can stuff the lawsuit up thier ass... That was Newegg's press release.
Funny how suddenly half a week later its Ipex.
Shady, shady, shady dealings!
Next Up "Shell-Shocker" deal...."Fell", fresh off the truck CPUs made of cheese from ipex vender, Ipex based out of Nigeria had little to say about the topic of its missing CPUs
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oh?
Kyle said:
Kyle said:
I'd say "another source" was incorrect.
Where is all the screaming about the "LIE" we've been told about the distributor of these fakes? Oh.. Kyle is just repeating what someone told him. Guess what.. Newegg repeated what it was told. Now that it has had time to grasp what's happened they are saying counterfeits.
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Ruh roh...
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Ninja: Just read previous post.
Ruh roh indeed....
Ruh roh indeed....
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Want a tidy explanation?
Wow.. maybe they weren't trying to mislead us... NAh, burn them at the stake anyway, it's more entertaining and they are probably lying anyway.
Up to that point, all of us could only guess if newegg were told the chips were demo chips or did they decided that themself.
I'm glad newegg has revealed everything. As I mention earlier, its more likely that it was an honest mistake as its doubtful that newegg would intentionally do illegal dealings. Just wish that they mentioned from the beginning that they were invesitgating the issues, then I'm sure people wouldn't be accusing them of trying to decieve the customers.
Perhaps in the future, they should state something like, "we're informed by our supplier XYZ that they have mistakenly ship us so and so units". That way, people would know that newegg are merely the messenger here. Maybe they trusted that supplier too much
Up to that point, all of us could only guess if newegg were told the chips were demo chips or did they decided that themself.
I'm glad newegg has revealed everything. As I mention earlier, its more likely that it was an honest mistake as its doubtful that newegg would intentionally do illegal dealings. Just wish that they mentioned from the beginning that they were invesitgating the issues, then I'm sure people wouldn't be accusing them of trying to decieve the customers.
Perhaps in the future, they should state something like, "we're informed by our supplier XYZ that they have mistakenly ship us so and so units". That way, people would know that newegg are merely the messenger here. Maybe they trusted that supplier too much
Unfortunately, if Newegg had pinned the blame on IPEX (or D&H, or whoever it would've been) before their investigation was complete and all of their legal ducks were in a row, Newegg could've been on the hook for a metric s**t-ton of civil damages from a libel suit (among other things). That's why the name of the "long-term supplier" was conspicuously missing from Newegg's Friday press release...they didn't have enough legal proof.
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Ipex now and half a week later it will be:
ATTN:
Dear Sir/M, Bennet
I am Mr.David Mark. an Auditor of a BANK OF THE NORTH
INTERNATIONAL,ABUJA
(FCT). I have the courage to Crave indulgence for this important business believing that you will never let me down either now or in the future. Some time ago, an American Mining consultant/ contractor with the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation, came across with a large quality of Intell Coare i7 CPUs which were inadvertently shipped to Newseg.com for which was a defence contract. We are willing to pay you to Cease and Desist this misleasing story you have published. We have secured the blessings of those affected with 15 MILLION dollars. We hope to secure your faith in our company too with a contract and good faith of Christ Jesus.....Thank you Mr.David Mark
ATTN:
Dear Sir/M, Bennet
I am Mr.David Mark. an Auditor of a BANK OF THE NORTH
INTERNATIONAL,ABUJA
(FCT). I have the courage to Crave indulgence for this important business believing that you will never let me down either now or in the future. Some time ago, an American Mining consultant/ contractor with the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation, came across with a large quality of Intell Coare i7 CPUs which were inadvertently shipped to Newseg.com for which was a defence contract. We are willing to pay you to Cease and Desist this misleasing story you have published. We have secured the blessings of those affected with 15 MILLION dollars. We hope to secure your faith in our company too with a contract and good faith of Christ Jesus.....Thank you Mr.David Mark
What's really idiotic and stupid is people like you who clearly have not read the press release and have clearly not read this thread in it's entirety to get a modicum of what is being said. One doesn't have to be a fanboy to be a tool.
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Brilliant!
Clearly if D&H wasn't involved then I would say I was sorry for implicating them in this mess. However, I never claimed that D&H was was involved, therefore I don't owe them an apology, but Newegg does. This just gets better and better. I said this earlier and what a lot of people don't understand. If you are digging a hole that is getting deeper, STOP FUCKING DIGGING!!! D&H had every opportunity to say, "Hey, we weren't the supplier, so please stop saying we are." but they didn't, know why? Because they really didn't know if they were or weren't so they took a pre-emptive strike against Kyle as a hedge against it. It doesn't hurt them to send out their lawyers with a C&D, it's a win-win for them. See how that works?
Newegg has an even bigger problem on their hands. They implicated Intel and D&H. Both are not saying it wasn't them. Oh boy, let's watch the spin machine in action.
Want a tidy explanation?
Wow.. maybe they weren't trying to mislead us... NAh, burn them at the stake anyway, it's more entertaining and they are probably lying anyway.
Facebook is not an official press release. Maybe some people think it is, it isn't. If you read their press release they clearly stated that it was either Intel or D&H. I'll wait for the official word.
You are a tool. Stop with your ongoing charade. It's getting real tiresome.
Distinction alert!!! The distinction is, is that Newegg sold these parts to a customer from their supplier without checking it. They just proved that fact. They implicated D&H in their press release because they were told it was D&H. Kyle simply reported it, he sold nothing to anyone now did he? See the distinction? Context matters. I suggest you go learn about that.
Up to that point, all of us could only guess if newegg were told the chips were demo chips or did they decided that themself.
I'm glad newegg has revealed everything. As I mention earlier, its more likely that it was an honest mistake as its doubtful that newegg would intentionally do illegal dealings. Just wish that they mentioned from the beginning that they were invesitgating the issues, then I'm sure people wouldn't be accusing them of trying to decieve the customers.
Perhaps in the future, they should state something like, "we're informed by our supplier XYZ that they have mistakenly ship us so and so units". That way, people would know that newegg are merely the messenger here. Maybe they trusted that supplier too much
Do you and other people on here not understand. All Newegg had to do was say, "We understand there is a problem but we will not comment on it until all of our facts from our investigation are done, then we will present the facts as we know them to be true, to you our valued customers. Please don't come to any conclusions until we give you the straight facts for good or for ill. If it's our fault we will own up to it no questions asked, but we will fix it one way or the other."
See how simple that is?
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Nobody accused you of accusing D&H so why would you owe them an apology? Newegg never said it was D&H so why would newegg owe them an apology? There is only one place that named D&H (although quotes are all over the net now). If I was that one place I'd be hoping like hell that D&H doesn't sue me to the stone age.
D&H issued a cease and desist for good reason. D&H doesn't need to coddle people. If you screw with it's reputation they are allowed to go after you for $$ - after they issue a C&D and you don't comply.
Once again, Newegg didn't "implicate" either of those. Especially D&H.
They made an official statement to Gizmondo stating it was IPEX. Their press release only said it was a supplier, they didn't specifically say D&H. Kyle said D&H based on information he got from other, unnamed, sources. Newegg would have been stupid to name D&H in an official statement before they had finished their investigation.
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Do you want your packages to be opened and inspected before they are sent to you? Especially a CPU? I highly doubt it. I'd be pissed to receive a retail box anything that had been opened.
Where in newegg's press release did they mention D&H? Kyle is the only one who has said D&H.
I suggest you learn a few more "facts".
Oh please. I'm about run out of patience with this whole thing.
Exactly...if anyone's on the hook for implicating D&H in this, it's Kyle and his "unnamed" source.
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sucks to be fighting a losing battle doesn't it?
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