New DFI Mini-ITX MI P55-T36

Issue with Sleep Mode.

I using this motherboard with a Sileverstone SG06 and everything runs fine as long as the computer does not go to sleep. If I enable sleep mode in Win 7 64bit, then when I want it to wake up from sleep, it starts and stops continously with ever going into Windows. The only way that I can restart is by turning off the switch at the power supply and turning it back on.

Am I missing any settings in the Bios or the motherboard?

Here is my config
DFI mi p55-t36
SG06
MSI 4670 graphics card
OCZ DDR3 4GB memory
Core i5 750

Thanks for any input
 
mling said:
Issue with Sleep Mode.

I using this motherboard with a Sileverstone SG06 and everything runs fine as long as the computer does not go to sleep. If I enable sleep mode in Win 7 64bit, then when I want it to wake up from sleep, it starts and stops continously with ever going into Windows. The only way that I can restart is by turning off the switch at the power supply and turning it back on.

Am I missing any settings in the Bios or the motherboard?

Here is my config
DFI mi p55-t36
SG06
MSI 4670 graphics card
OCZ DDR3 4GB memory
Core i5 750

Thanks for any input
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There is something about sleep mode in the motherboard manual...check out that out and make sure your jumpers are right.
 
Steeeeve said:
There is something about sleep mode in the motherboard manual...check out that out and make sure your jumpers are right.
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I am not overclocking.

As for the jumpers, I left all of them alone. The jumper settings I saw were for just waking the machine up by using mouse or LAN.

Could it be a power supply issue?
 
I doubt is a PSU issue. I'll check on this when I get home and start playing with the board.
 
Steeeeve said:
I doubt is a PSU issue. I'll check on this when I get home and start playing with the board.
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Thanks for chekcing. Do you think it has something to do with Intel's C-State technology also referred to as ACPI?
 
mling said:
Issue with Sleep Mode.

I using this motherboard with a Sileverstone SG06 and everything runs fine as long as the computer does not go to sleep. If I enable sleep mode in Win 7 64bit, then when I want it to wake up from sleep, it starts and stops continously with ever going into Windows. The only way that I can restart is by turning off the switch at the power supply and turning it back on.

Am I missing any settings in the Bios or the motherboard?

Here is my config
DFI mi p55-t36
SG06
MSI 4670 graphics card
OCZ DDR3 4GB memory
Core i5 750

Thanks for any input
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What does the LED display say on the mobo when this happens?
 
Here's mine running Prime.
Prime-1.jpg


Anyone have any idea what is TMPIN0, TMPIN1 and TMPIN2 temp that shows in Hardware Monitor? It seems temp for NB but I can't tell which one it is and what others are.
 
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i have some questions :)

1: is i5 750 the best cpu choice? or are there anny nice QUADs comming?

2:does mobo support undervolting?

3: can mobo hadle a a Thermalriht axp140 in a sg05

4: whats a normal 24/7 OC for a i5 750 on ths board?
 
1. For the price, I think 750 is the one.
2. I haven't check for this so not sure
3. Yes
4. Max OC suggested is 180blk which is 3.6GHz and nobody tested 24/7 yet. I would assume 3.2-3.4 would be no problem for 24/7 given enough cooling.

leifeinar said:
i have some questions :)

1: is i5 750 the best cpu choice? or are there anny nice QUADs comming?

2:does mobo support undervolting?

3: can mobo hadle a a Thermalriht axp140 in a sg05

4: whats a normal 24/7 OC for a i5 750 on ths board?
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HaxEJxuK said:
Here's mine running Prime.
Prime-1.jpg


Anyone have any idea what is TMPIN0, TMPIN1 and TMPIN2 temp that shows in Hardware Monitor? It seems temp for NB but I can't tell which one it is and what others are.
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Chipset, PWM, and ambient I believe...but not in that order.
 
leifeinar said:
i have some questions :)

1: is i5 750 the best cpu choice? or are there anny nice QUADs comming?
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No, unless you're going to overclock it.

i5-750 is a horrible choice if you're not going to overclock but going to use DDR3-1600 memory (@ DDR3-1600 speed).

It's just not possible with that combination as confirmed here :

Intel's Core i5-750 and Core i7-870 processors - The Tech Report - Page 2

"Note that the lone Core i5 processor supports only four threads. In other words, Hyper-Threading has been disabled in this chip to differentiate it from the more expensive models. Another way the Core i5 differs from it siblings is its 2.13GHz uncore speed. That clock is important because it contributes to another Core i5-750 limitation: the max memory speed, without overclocking the base system clock, is 1333MHz. With a 2.4GHz uncore, the Core i7-800-series chips can hit 1600MHz memory speeds without extra help. The uncore speed also determines the clock speed of the L3 cache, another little Lynnfield control knob that will impact performance, if not tremendously."
 
So I guess the real question, at the end of the day, is whether you'd rather have a higher overclocked 750 or a stock or lower overclocked 860. The Carksdales are sadly out of the running for being too damn expensive for the performance, which is generally lower than the 750; of course, overclocking one might produce different results!
 
leifeinar said:
i have some questions :)

1: is i5 750 the best cpu choice? or are there anny nice QUADs comming?
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My vote goes to the 750. Opinions differ of course. New quads? Unlikely, unless Intel springs a surprise. I thtink they've always said that Lynnfield will stay a 45nm processor. Maybe they will update the current Lynnfield range with new models/multipliers. Who knows.
 
elpibe10 said:
No, unless you're going to overclock it.

i5-750 is a horrible choice if you're not going to overclock but going to use DDR3-1600 memory (@ DDR3-1600 speed).

It's just not possible with that combination as confirmed here :

Intel's Core i5-750 and Core i7-870 processors - The Tech Report - Page 2

"Note that the lone Core i5 processor supports only four threads. In other words, Hyper-Threading has been disabled in this chip to differentiate it from the more expensive models. Another way the Core i5 differs from it siblings is its 2.13GHz uncore speed. That clock is important because it contributes to another Core i5-750 limitation: the max memory speed, without overclocking the base system clock, is 1333MHz. With a 2.4GHz uncore, the Core i7-800-series chips can hit 1600MHz memory speeds without extra help. The uncore speed also determines the clock speed of the L3 cache, another little Lynnfield control knob that will impact performance, if not tremendously."
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That's the theory. In practice the effect is almost negligible. As for the ability to run DDR3-1600: all Lynnfields are rated at DDR3-1333 max officially. Now there is nothing that prevent board manufacturers from providing in the BIOS different BCLK:RAM ratios to support different memory speeds. Which is why most boards come with DDR3-2000 support or more...
Do correct me if I'm wrong...
 
Kinda like placing the cpu / ram on a divider, Like what you see on an amd systems.
 
NichoTL said:
That's the theory. In practice the effect is almost negligible. As for the ability to run DDR3-1600: all Lynnfields are rated at DDR3-1333 max officially. Now there is nothing that prevent board manufacturers from providing in the BIOS different BCLK:RAM ratios to support different memory speeds. Which is why most boards come with DDR3-2000 support or more...
Do correct me if I'm wrong...
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Theory is one thing but in practice, it doesn't work on both the Asus Maximus III Gene and DFI LanParty MI P55-T36; both of which aren't considered low-end P55 boards.

... and this relatively unpublicized fact got me pulling my hair for weeks as I wasn't able get the i5-750 and DDR3-1600 to run at stock speed simultaneously.

It's either :
i5-750 @ stock and DDR3-1600 @ DDR3-1333

or

DDR3-1600 @ stock and i5-750 overclocked from BCLK133 to BCLK160

I'm surprised no other user has whine about it. I guess everyone's an overclocker unlike me ?
 
elpibe10 said:
Theory is one thing but in practice, it doesn't work on both the Asus Maximus III Gene and DFI LanParty MI P55-T36; both of which aren't considered low-end P55 boards.

... and this relatively unpublicized fact got me pulling my hair for weeks as I wasn't able get the i5-750 and DDR3-1600 to run at stock speed simultaneously.

It's either :
i5-750 @ stock and DDR3-1600 @ DDR3-1333

or

DDR3-1600 @ stock and i5-750 overclocked from BCLK133 to BCLK160

I'm surprised no other user has whine about it. I guess everyone's an overclocker unlike me ?
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And your 860 works?
Now that the memory controller is on the CPU, maybe the memory multiplier is limited by the CPU. First time I hear of it I must admit.
 
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If indeed that is a difference between the 750 and the 860, then it should have been better advertised. On a different note, if your mem is rated at 1600, that also means that it can reach 1333 at lower timings, which is almost as good, if not better. SO if you don't want to overclock your BCLK and can't pick 12 as a multiplier, then I'd pick 10 and try and lower the timings...
 
elpibe10 said:
Theory is one thing but in practice, it doesn't work on both the Asus Maximus III Gene and DFI LanParty MI P55-T36; both of which aren't considered low-end P55 boards.

... and this relatively unpublicized fact got me pulling my hair for weeks as I wasn't able get the i5-750 and DDR3-1600 to run at stock speed simultaneously.

It's either :
i5-750 @ stock and DDR3-1600 @ DDR3-1333

or

DDR3-1600 @ stock and i5-750 overclocked from BCLK133 to BCLK160

I'm surprised no other user has whine about it. I guess everyone's an overclocker unlike me ?
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I had same problem with ram. I couldn't run it at stock. I had to change ram timming manualy, changed speed and voltage, then all worked fine...
 
phinix said:
I had same problem with ram. I couldn't run it at stock. I had to change ram timming manualy, changed speed and voltage, then all worked fine...
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This is a problem with the bios...I'm not sure what elpibe10 is talking about as I know plenty of people running the Asus Gene with both of those stock and people with the P55 run both of those...in fact, I'm about to.

Anywho, the memory problem will be resolved shortly...I think the bios is due out soon.
 
Steeeeve said:
This is a problem with the bios...I'm not sure what elpibe10 is talking about as I know plenty of people running the Asus Gene with both of those stock and people with the P55 run both of those...in fact, I'm about to.

Anywho, the memory problem will be resolved shortly...I think the bios is due out soon.
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It's an i5-750 issue that's been confirmed by Asus themselves so I doubt anyone can bypass the i5-750 + DDR3-1600 issue :

"I5-750 only support DDR 800-1066-1333 mode if you want to run DDR 1600 must increase bclk .
I7-860 support DDR 800 -1066 -1333-1600 mode so you can run bclk 133+DDR1600 .

This is a limitation with regards to the uncore speed of the CPU. For more info take a look at the top table and write-up in the link below.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/17545/2"
 
elpibe10 said:
It's an i5-750 issue that's been confirmed by Asus themselves so I doubt anyone can bypass the i5-750 + DDR3-1600 issue :

"I5-750 only support DDR 800-1066-1333 mode if you want to run DDR 1600 must increase bclk .
I7-860 support DDR 800 -1066 -1333-1600 mode so you can run bclk 133+DDR1600 .

This is a limitation with regards to the uncore speed of the CPU. For more info take a look at the top table and write-up in the link below.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/17545/2"
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Yes and no. You are right but the uncore speed has nothing to do with this, from what I understand. It looks like they have different uncore speeds but the RAM multiplier locks are an arbitrary limitation by Intel. For example the 920 has also an uncore of 2.13GHz yet you can have 10x multiplier or more.
 
NichoTL said:
Yes and no. You are right but the uncore speed has nothing to do with this, from what I understand. It looks like they have different uncore speeds but the RAM multiplier locks are an arbitrary limitation by Intel. For example the 920 has also an uncore of 2.13GHz yet you can have 10x multiplier or more.
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I've no idea what 'uncore' is to be honest. I'm not an overclocker so those technobabbles mean nothing to me.

They were actually the words of an Asus engineer as quoted word for word. :p

I guess they aren't that tech savvy after all if what you're saying is correct ;)
 
elpibe10 said:
It's an i5-750 issue that's been confirmed by Asus themselves so I doubt anyone can bypass the i5-750 + DDR3-1600 issue :

"I5-750 only support DDR 800-1066-1333 mode if you want to run DDR 1600 must increase bclk .
I7-860 support DDR 800 -1066 -1333-1600 mode so you can run bclk 133+DDR1600 .

This is a limitation with regards to the uncore speed of the CPU. For more info take a look at the top table and write-up in the link below.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/17545/2"
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I thought you were referring to the memory not being recognized. Yeah, with 1600 you have to OC. In fact, it says it right on the website. I'm not sure you have to do anything more than adjust the settings with Gene III.
 
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Steeeeve said:
I thought you were referring to the memory not being recognized. Yeah, with 1600 you have to OC. In fact, it says it right on the website. I'm not sure you have to do anything more than adjust the settings with Gene III.
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But it appears it depends on the processor, because the i7 8xx series processors have normally access to the 12x multiplier. Not the 750.
 
Zyklon808 said:
GOt this going on:
Sugo SG05
DFI MITX P55
i5 750
4gb DDR3 OCZ DDR-1600 Low Voltage Edition
GTX 280
External 500 watt PSU (Waiting for that dang 450 Silverstone!).
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This is kinda late, but how's the low voltage memory working out? What are the memory voltages available in BIOS?
 
Sorry I think I asked already but I dunno can't find it

Will this and a i5-750/i7-860 work with the 300w PSU of the SG05? how will I connect the CPU, this requieres an 8 pin cable and the 300wpsu has just 4 pins
 
fr500 said:
Sorry I think I asked already but I dunno can't find it

Will this and a i5-750/i7-860 work with the 300w PSU of the SG05? how will I connect the CPU, this requieres an 8 pin cable and the 300wpsu has just 4 pins
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There are 4-pin to 8-pin adaptors. Not more than a couple of dollars I would guess.
 
fr500 said:
Sorry I think I asked already but I dunno can't find it

Will this and a i5-750/i7-860 work with the 300w PSU of the SG05? how will I connect the CPU, this requieres an 8 pin cable and the 300wpsu has just 4 pins
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I was about to mention that you do not need to use an 8-pin for most motherboards; the 4-pin would normally suffice unless you want to do some serious OC'ing of the CPU. ...but then I realized it's a DFI board, which may or may not be picky about using an 8-pin or not, lol.
NichoTL said:
There are 4-pin to 8-pin adaptors. Not more than a couple of dollars I would guess.
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NichoTL said:
There are 4-pin to 8-pin adaptors. Not more than a couple of dollars I would guess.
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The DFI board was designed using the SG05 and SG06 cases :)

From the P55-T36 manual..."If available, it is preferable to use the 8-pin power otherwise connect a 4-pin power to this connector."
 
Good, guess I better keep it at stock as it is until the 450w psu emerges.

Anyway, I'm using a Corsair H50, and have some Corsair CX400s for work builds so may use that instead if it fits.
 
i honestly think h50 is a waste with this. as i have it running atm...
anything $30 will do. such as geminii S, since u oc limited to 1.4v and bclk 180...
 
Thing Is I live in Ecuador, and bringing stuff here is expensive and I can buy only from Amazon, so the less boxes the better, buying a GeminII S implies getting an slim fan and researching how well it works, etc, etc, etc, especially with an i5/i7.

I'd love to keep my fanless GeminII but noone know if the GeminIIS 1156 bracket is compatible.
 
HaxEJxuK said:
1. For the price, I think 750 is the one.
2. I haven't check for this so not sure
3. Yes
4. Max OC suggested is 180blk which is 3.6GHz and nobody tested 24/7 yet. I would assume 3.2-3.4 would be no problem for 24/7 given enough cooling.
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I have it on bclk150 TurboON 24/7. Idle CPU_PWM@42C. Room Temp. 22C~
Under Prime95 10mins, CPU_PWM@61C stable.

DFIidle150bclk.jpg

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Note:
1. I run this system open, that means no extra mobo/pwm cooling other than the h50fan, which i changed to a quiet coolermaster. Temp would be 3-7C lower if case was closed, which i already benched with my old board p5e-vm hdmi. I will close the case after I get the psu/everything in order.
2. No heatsink on the mosfet yet, which I have, but have yet to put them on. i shall experiment with that soon. Results later. More info, view my log thread in sig.

fr500 said:
Thing Is I live in Ecuador, and bringing stuff here is expensive and I can buy only from Amazon, so the less boxes the better, buying a GeminII S implies getting an slim fan and researching how well it works, etc, etc, etc, especially with an i5/i7.

I'd love to keep my fanless GeminII but noone know if the GeminIIS 1156 bracket is compatible.
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1156 bracket for GeminiiS can be order on say newegg for $4usd.
I already did the comparison, and believe me, geminiiS is the best size/price cooler you can get for $30+$4. Nothing else even comes close at this price range.
It's better than shuriken or geminii or the NT06. I believe if my memory serves it is on par with axp140; however axp140 is $70cad atm. and cad-usd is almost 1 to 1 atm.

EDIT:
axp140 on sale @ infonec.ca $55cad this wk. For those of you in Canada. =)
 
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May get the bracket AND the H50 anyway (I sell this boxes to my acquitances over here) so knowing what works and what doesn't is important for me

GeminII without any fans is spot on for a 775 dual core
 
Just wanted to warn you guys, DFI has a new BIOS out, I attempted to flash mine using the provided "ez flash" utility. It got to about 25% and got stuck, waited for 30 min, nothing. Had to kill it in task manager, rebooted now I have a dead board. I contacted DFI, disappointed to say the least.
 
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