Just ordered the Dell UltraSharp 2209WA

Thanks for that. Didn't think about the refresh rate. It's an alien world coming from a CRT. x)

The viewing angle issues on TN panels would stop me getting one. I got an IPS for that reason.

Off to download PowerStrip.
 
DefineByte said:
Haven't had a chance to calibrate it yet so won't comment on colour etc. but on firing up a game (UT2004. Retro, I know) the first thing I noticed was the ghosting. It's really quite noticeable. I can live with it though so it's not a deal breaker for me. It could be that because of the relative lack of graphical detail in this game (just basic texturing etc.) the ghosting is more obvious.
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I thought it was fairly well known that this wasn't a gaming monitor?
 
powerstrip makes my computer to stop working and i have to reset it. have win7 proffesional, bought my comp last month. it happens more often now so i uninstalled it, anyone else experiencing this?
 
Talked with Keith this morning, got the deal. Not bad for a new IPS.

Looking forward to seeing it in person.
 
drifter106 said:
ditto...just ordered one...thanks

He told me this offer would be good till Friday...
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Thanks for posting this. I just talked with Keith and ordered mine today. It's such a good deal, I decided to pay a little more to get it faster!
 
iaintmost said:
I thought it was fairly well known that this wasn't a gaming monitor?
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That's not what ppl are saying on this forum. I picked one up for gaming myself since ppl on this forum are saying that the HP2475W or Dell U2410, Samsung 2233RZ, LG L227WTG & Dell 2209WA are the best monitors aside from CRTs for gaming.

So this weekend I'll be the judge of that and post back what I think of this monitor for gaming. I'm not a pro gamer by any means but I sure can tell if IM getting any type of lag or ghosting.
 
I dunno if anyone's said an HP2475W is a good gaming monitor...the U2410 maybe, but I use my 2209WA at 75Hz for the gaming and it runs brilliantly. :)
 
I did get in touch with Keith. Unfortunately his deal only works for Small Business side.. I need to use my Dell Preferred so I am SOL (again). I guess I continue to wait. Very frustrating.

Chris
 
Just went up on Dell home.. they just raised the price of the thing $10 to $299.. they are killing me..
 
I think I just found a stuck pixel on my 2209WA, that I received about a week ago.
It's on the right hand side, about 3/4 of the way down it has a blue/green hue, not black,
so I don't think it's a dead pixel.

Its only visible on a super white/red/purple background. I ran JScreenFix for about an hour, didn't seem to help. I'm at odds if I want to call Dell and swap it out for another, anyone have a clue to how long it would take. I'm still within my 30 days, so would I get a new LCD?
 
Had my 2209wa for 7 or 8 months and had to buy another one, ordered it from dell.ca last night while they were on sale, so my new corei7 hackintosh I also ordered(in parts) last night will have some high quality dual screens.
 
mtbush said:
I think I just found a stuck pixel on my 2209WA, that I received about a week ago.
It's on the right hand side, about 3/4 of the way down it has a blue/green hue, not black,
so I don't think it's a dead pixel.

Its only visible on a super white/red/purple background. I ran JScreenFix for about an hour, didn't seem to help. I'm at odds if I want to call Dell and swap it out for another, anyone have a clue to how long it would take. I'm still within my 30 days, so would I get a new LCD?
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It sounds like a bright pixel rather than dead (where one or more subpixels is always lit). Be sure to mention this to Dell when calling, as they favour bright pixels over dead when replacing. In the UK we get replacements delivered by a Dell operative the following day. Having had 6 replacements for my last 2209wa, I found there was a 50% chance of receiving a refurbished unit.
 
Hmmm, a bright pixel, didn't know there was such a thing. Do you think overtime it would just "go away" like some stuck pixels.

Thanks for the reply.
 
So I just got my 2209WA replacement, since the first one had green tint.
Now this one, just like the one with the tint, is still (even more) brighter at top and darker at bottom.

Are all 2209WA suffering form this color shift (or brightness shift I think would be more accurate)?

Other than this the monitor is great, but... I kinda bought an IPS to get rid of the color shift...
 
Well, After using my three 2209wa's for a few days now, I'm overall very happy

I have found that two of the displays have a "cooler" color output than the third, which has a warmer, more yellow tint. It's a very slight difference, but using all three right beside each other I notice it, so I may call dell and see if I can't get a replacement sent my way in hopes it will have the same color temp as the other two...


No dead or stuck pixels on any of the three, minimal/no color shift, even back lighting on all three, minimal/no grey shift - Overall, this is the best monitor for the money I've ever purchased - coming from a 2407 rev A04 (the revision that fixed all the 2407 problems)

I promise I'll get some pictures up tonight of the setup :cool:
 
Elipsn said:
Well, After using my three 2209wa's for a few days now, I'm overall very happy

I have found that two of the displays have a "cooler" color output than the third, which has a warmer, more yellow tint. It's a very slight difference, but using all three right beside each other I notice it, so I may call dell and see if I can't get a replacement sent my way in hopes it will have the same color temp as the other two...


No dead or stuck pixels on any of the three, minimal/no color shift, even back lighting on all three, minimal/no grey shift - Overall, this is the best monitor for the money I've ever purchased - coming from a 2407 rev A04 (the revision that fixed all the 2407 problems)

I promise I'll get some pictures up tonight of the setup :cool:
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Please do post some pics. Could anyone tell me how HD movies look on this monitor and if the color is difficult to calibrate. I am looking for a monitor that looks decent out of the box and doesn't need expensive software to calibrate. This thread caught my eye and Dell has the monitor for a great price.
 
What settings are you 2209wa users using to get the best text quality so it's easier to read text for long periods of time? So far I have brightness set to 0 and sharpness is 40. It still feels like the white color (even in text) is overly bright and has a sort of uncomfortable "piercing" affect on my eyes. Anyone find any more comfortable text settings?
 
Try lowering the contrast as well.

It would have been good if they let you dial down the backlight further. I was measuring over 130cd/m2 with the brightness on 0 before calibrating it.
 
Elipsn said:
I have found that two of the displays have a "cooler" color output than the third, which has a warmer, more yellow tint. It's a very slight difference, but using all three right beside each other I notice it, so I may call dell and see if I can't get a replacement sent my way in hopes it will have the same color temp as the other two...
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If it's warmer, then reduce red (and possibly green) and increase blue. How hard can that be?
 
What's the current revision for the 2209? I want to make sure I've got a good monitor. Any information, comments, opinions, wether good or bad is welcomed.

2209WAf (didn't know there was a WAf)
Made in China
Revision A01
Made in Sept. 2009
 
Matija said:
If it's warmer, then reduce red (and possibly green) and increase blue. How hard can that be?
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I hear you - but, if its possible to get matching panels that have the same look for a given setting, that's how I'd like to do it - this allows all three panels to have the same settings, and the same look - no compromises.


Taking pics now, sorry for the delay...I'll post em soon
 
So you want to send the monitor back and waste both money and time (not only yours) because you cannot be bothered to press a few buttons?

The evil part of me wishes that you indeed do it, and that you end up with a faulty monitor with lots of bad pixels, then send it back for replacement, then get one with strong left-right tinting, then send that one back and get a monitor with bad backlight bleeding, then... You get the point.

Your monitor is perfectly fine. Stop being lazy.
 
Matija said:
So you want to send the monitor back and waste both money and time (not only yours) because you cannot be bothered to press a few buttons?

The evil part of me wishes that you indeed do it, and that you end up with a faulty monitor with lots of bad pixels, then send it back for replacement, then get one with strong left-right tinting, then send that one back and get a monitor with bad backlight bleeding, then... You get the point.

Your monitor is perfectly fine. Stop being lazy.
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If he's not planning on calibrating the lot, it's not laziness - it would take a very keen eye to be able to match all 3 monitors perfectly, if the settings aren't the same (or close).

Then again, the evil part of Matija might have its way and you might end up with a crappy screen in exchange for that one. Have you considered buying (or borrowing, that'd be much cheaper) a calibrator?
 
We are talking about a slight tint here. It's literally a couple of button presses to get in the menu and tweak R/G/B.
 
Just got mine up and running. Looks like my Dell 2005...need to tone down the brightness and contrast. Basically the only thing I notice different than my 4 year old 2005 is that it was significantly cheaper and a little bit wider.
 
Having used this monitor I can comfortably say IT SUCKS! The whites are horribly overbright, the text quality is not sharp enough to make reading for long periods of time comfortable, AND the viewing angle is NOT as good as it's been hyped to be

The Dell 2209wa is the biggest scam and overhyped product that does not deliver any good quality as a display for 2009. If you have one, do yourself a favor and return it asap ;) .
 
dejacky said:
Having used this monitor I can comfortably say IT SUCKS! The whites are horribly overbright, the text quality is not sharp enough to make reading for long periods of time comfortable, AND the viewing angle is NOT as good as it's been hyped to be

The Dell 2209wa is the biggest scam and overhyped product that does not deliver any good quality as a display for 2009. If you have one, do yourself a favor and return it asap ;) .
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Wow, I ended up getting this monitor last week and I love it. Text is razor Sharp, I dont know what your talking about, you must have a bad one, and I dont find it overly bright, when you start it up it is bright, its defualt setting is 75. I have mine at 35 and I find it perfect. Colors really pop and looks better then the Dell 2005FPW I have sitting next too it. The Whites are whiter, Blacks are even better. The monitor also feels much better made, its not flimsy feeling like the Acer it replaced. You touch the Acer Monitor that thing sounded like it was gonna snap in half. The dell feels solid and the stand is awesome. Heavy solid, and moves easy.

This monitor is well worth the money.


I have no dead pixels, no tinting problems. Games even look great on it.
 
Matija said:
We are talking about a slight tint here. It's literally a couple of button presses to get in the menu and tweak R/G/B.
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Then let's just consider my returning this one an attempt to get Dell to pay more attention to quality control. The issue isn't me returning a monitor, the issue is Dell selling a monitor that does not have uniform performance. You can't claim a monitor is one way, and it be another. All of the issue that affect monitors that you hear about, color push, black crush, banding, dead pixels, green to pink, etc, etc, etc have made people to believe that getting a monitor with only a slight issue is acceptable. It is not. It is a failure on behalf of the company making it (usually the panel manufacturer) to provide good quality control, and the re brander (Dell) not giving a shit - and because of this, we, the consumer, get screwed.

The industry has been putting out subpar products for a long time now - part of the problem is the usual customer isn't demanding enough to know that what he or she received isn't correct, therefore, the failure rate of the product line doesn't appear so bad - but its usually nowhere close to accurate. If everyone raised hell about all the issues that the 2209wa, or, the U2410 have - Dell would do something about it. But they won't, because most people don't notice.

We at [H]ard are more demanding. The little details count, and yes, I'm a computer enthusiast and graphic designer, so I'm more demanding than the average consumer.

Because of all of this, I'll be calling Dell until they give me a monitor that works correctly

Cheerio.

:cool:;):p
 
dejacky said:
Having used this monitor I can comfortably say IT SUCKS! The whites are horribly overbright, the text quality is not sharp enough to make reading for long periods of time comfortable, AND the viewing angle is NOT as good as it's been hyped to be

The Dell 2209wa is the biggest scam and overhyped product that does not deliver any good quality as a display for 2009. If you have one, do yourself a favor and return it asap ;) .
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I sense some sarcasm. I think.
 
Scrutinizing text quality users like myself, what do you prefer for best text quality; clear type, standard, or no text smoothing at all?
 
I keep it turned off but that is independent of the 2209wa itself or w/e. I have it off on every monitor I use.
 
Elipsn said:
Then let's just consider my returning this one an attempt to get Dell to pay more attention to quality control.
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It won't happen. Do you think they care? :)

You will end up with a worse monitor and then spend countless sleepless nights wishing you listened to that guy from teh internetz and kept your old 2209. Mark my words!
 
*sigh*

I was reading the recent comments and noticed the complaints of ghosting on this monitor. I thought I had found a larger screen replacement for my NEC 20wmgx2. Having purchased this monitor many years ago, I find that I'm very spoiled by it. It has set a quality and performance bar so high that I fear I may never find a larger screen I would be happy with. I thought the 2209wa would be the next monitor for me, but apparently not.

We need the next 20WMGX2 but larger in size. I guess I'll keep looking.
 
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