Office Depot Workers Told To Lie To Customers?

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Next time I buy a laptop I'll accept the extra offers.

Once they bring out the laptop to the register I'll say I change my mind on the extras and just want the laptop :).
 
I give you that point.

But, there -were- people that tried to do something about it, only to be met with "it's CAPITALISM, gtfo you commie". It's not like no one tried... It does suck that it takes an economic collapse to wake people the fuck up though.

Thats always the case with the masses. It takes something big to wake them up. As soon as this crisis is over they will all go back to their happy little lives not caring. I mean look back at Sept. 11 for proof of my point. The whole "America is united" shit lasted all of what, three months?
 
This "just a guilty" shit is annoying.

Why should I buy crap that I don't need? Because your sorry ass needs to make a commision? Try getting a second job then.

No one said you had to buy the stuff. They just said don't be a fucking asshole to the employees. If you don't like the place or their policies, then don't shop there. Its pretty god damned simple.
 
Next time I buy a laptop I'll accept the extra offers.

Once they bring out the laptop to the register I'll say I change my mind on the extras and just want the laptop :).

Just don't be an asshole and give a huge smug grin at the worker and be an asshole and say HAHA GOT YOU and its all good.
 
This "just a guilty" shit is annoying.



No one said you had to buy the stuff. They just said don't be a fucking asshole to the employees. If you don't like the place or their policies, then don't shop there. Its pretty god damned simple.

This whole thread is based on customers getting scammed. Although I am never impolite to sales reps I am glad these tactics are brought to my attention. Even though over 90% of my electronics are bought online.
 
Let me be the first to say, being a manager for Best Buy, that this is not a sales tactic supported by our company nor have I ever heard of a manager (be it district or store level) encouraging unethical and dishonest behavior like this. If we sale a laptop or PC without attachments we just keep our heads up and hope the next one goes better. BBY stands for integrity and managers would be fired for encouraging this type of behavior.
 
Let me be the first to say, being a manager for Best Buy, that this is not a sales tactic supported by our company nor have I ever heard of a manager (be it district or store level) encouraging unethical and dishonest behavior like this. If we sale a laptop or PC without attachments we just keep our heads up and hope the next one goes better. BBY stands for integrity and managers would be fired for encouraging this type of behavior.

I can vouch for that. Best Buy will throw managers under the bus and demote, or fire managers for seemingly minor offenses against company policy. I've seen extremely high turnover of management at more than one store for that reason.
 
So i guess this is where I get to play storytime.

A long time ago when I worked at Best Buy in Michigan, I got wrote up. Why? Because I gave the customer what he wanted.

This guy and his girlfriend literally walk in, make a beeline for the camcorders and come straight to me. The guy tells me flat out how much money in cash he's spending and that's it. He doesn't do cards because he works at Olive Garden and apparently they don't pay enough to afford payments, according to him. I'm thinking whatever, cash is legal tender as long as its legit.

This guy tells me he's buying a camcorder, some tapes for it, and nothing more. If I mention one word of a warranty or another accessory, or even the BB card, he's taking his business to Circuit just up the way. He flat out tells me this, and two managers are not even ten feet from me and hear this. He even mentions and I quote "I don't give a damn about RewardZone so don't mention it unless you want me to go elsewhere and reward them with my money. I shop here once every three years at most, and don't give a shit."

So now I'm sweating bullets here thinking I'm basically choosing how I'm going to get my ass chewed in a minute. Neither manager is helping me even when I look to them for assistance. I'm in a spot where I'm going to lose either way and neither one of them is willing to intervene. If I do my job the way I was trained to, the way I am supposed to, the way I'm expected to, which means offering the full potential attachment, I'm losing a sale. If I do right by this guy, I get a sale, but I still get hell for not fulfilling my duties as a BB employee.

I chose to do right by this guy because like the rest of you, I don't like dealing with having every accessory, warranty, and attachment shoved into my face either and this guy made it clear to me he wasn't having it from the get go. The least I could do, I figured, was honor his wishes.

I get him his camcorder, I get him his tapes, he pays for it and he leaves.

I literally just took my hand off my register after closing it and the two managers who listened in got on either side of me and escorted me to the office. They wrote me up for failing to meet company expectations and made it clear that further instances of it would result in higher disciplinary action. I pleaded my case with them, even told them flat out they heard the guy. They agreed, but they still said that I had a job to do and they'd rather take the loss of one guy going elsewhere because he isn't getting his way rather than me just simply giving them what they want. I told them that if I did that, I would've driven away a customer and I simply would've been written up for that instead. And they conceded to that fact! They agreed that I would have been written up for giving a negative shopping experience to a customer. I asked which carried more weight and they of course said driving the customer away, because good business is repeated business, and you don't get repeat business with people who have bad impressions.

But they still said to me "That guy would've bought it even if you said anything he didn't want you to mention. Every retailer goes through this same thing in their own way. If he honestly didn't want to deal with it, he should've bought it online."

I said, "I can't think of a single online website that you can give cash to over the internet."

To which one of them retorted, "That's his problem."

So yes, it does happen. Yes it has happened. And yes it happens even under the rooftops of your favorite B&M. Employees get screwed in one direction or another - they shove all these things in your face or they lose their jobs. It may not happen everywhere or at every store, but there's more than enough of it going on and many of you have seen it for yourselves, whether you're willing to admit it or not.

Working at Best Buy in Michigan is a literal 180 of how the BB's out here in IL are. In Michigan it was CONTACT EVERY CUSTOMER CONTACT EVERY CUSTOMER! CARE PLUS CARE PLUS CARE PLUS! ATTACH ATTACH ATTACH, BB CARDS BB CARDS REWARDZONE ANYTHING!

At the BB's by me, I can walk through a store from front to back to front again and the only person who says anything to me at all is the LP guy in the yellow shirt, unless I do buy something. Then its the cashier asking me if I have a BB card or a Rewardzone card. And sometimes I don't even get that.

At the store I was at, cashiers had to ask customers if they'd like to get a PSP or PRP with their item if it had one available. It was required at every applicable purchase. At one point they even had to write down how many times they were told no or yes to one. They even had to offer whatever free magazine sub or other freebie deal we were running for shopping at the store.

For me to come to a BB out here and not hear any of that, and a cashier to not even blink when I plunk down $130 in DVDs or even say anything about RewardZone because of how much I'm purchasing, just blew my fucking MIND. I got wrote up and yelled at and accused of giving less than desirable effort and these pricks are doing NOTHING compared to what I did and not ONE manager is saying anything! I felt like I endured what I did for nothing.

Needless to say I'm rather bitter and the only reason why I go there is to say hi to a buddy of mine who works there, and occasionally see if they have a CD or movie I can't find anywhere else. But even then I still try Amazon first, as it seems to be a rather big archive of crap that's hard to find.

All in all - let the retail guy do his job. Of course you don't have to buy any of the other shit. Don't do it unless YOU think you need it. If he keeps pushing and pushing some more, don't get in his face - get in his manager's. That's the asshole who's putting that kind of pressure on him in the first place.

This is why I couldn't be a sales person. Sorry to hear about this. My only comment about this is however is that you should have gotten input from a manager, even if you had to throw something at one of them and MADE one of them make the decision as you knew that you were headed for trouble. Even if they had written you up, it would have been on their instructions and I really doubt that a manager would write up an employee for doing what they said because in effect they'd be writing themselves up and more than likely they'd have just let it go.

Over the years I've found that when you're a peon you have to find the right balance of asking permission and forgiveness. It sucks and in the end all it is a game but its critical to working in corporate America and having some peace and keeping a job.

I'm not giving you any grief, just some friendly advice and support. Anyone that's worked for a while has been in a similar spot.
 
Let me be the first to say, being a manager for Best Buy, that this is not a sales tactic supported by our company nor have I ever heard of a manager (be it district or store level) encouraging unethical and dishonest behavior like this. If we sale a laptop or PC without attachments we just keep our heads up and hope the next one goes better. BBY stands for integrity and managers would be fired for encouraging this type of behavior.

Well, there was the whole in-store website that was much different from the actual one... or when, y'know, the geek squad was caught taking pr0n or other files from customer's computers...

No company is completely innocent, but it is good to see that best buy will sell you the item whether you get the accessories or not. It's also good that best buy is quick to react whenever something bad is brought to light.
 
Let me be the first to say, being a manager for Best Buy, that this is not a sales tactic supported by our company nor have I ever heard of a manager (be it district or store level) encouraging unethical and dishonest behavior like this. If we sale a laptop or PC without attachments we just keep our heads up and hope the next one goes better. BBY stands for integrity and managers would be fired for encouraging this type of behavior.

Seeing as you're a BBY manager, what is your take on the situation posted here last week with the broken camera that was sold as new and had a Geek Squad employee's pics (among others) in them?
 
This whole thread is based on customers getting scammed. Although I am never impolite to sales reps I am glad these tactics are brought to my attention. Even though over 90% of my electronics are bought online.

Pretending something isn't in stock so you don't lose money is not a scam.
 
This kind of thing pisses me off so bad I can't see straight. As a small store I can't even sell notebooks because the big B&M's loss lead virtually all the popular units then rape people on the accessories. It's the same as getting the printer cheap then getting sold a $5 USB cable for $40.

Then there I am, trying to be ethical about it and make a living selling the ACTUAL primary hardware people need and not the BS accessories they do not need... just the notebook itself and essentially I can't because I'm not willing to play the "rape them on the accessories" game.

And like everyone is saying above... we wonder WHY the B&M megastores are going under? They can't go under fast enough as far as I'm concerned. They give the rest of us a bad name and totally distort the pricing structure of electronics.

Just because they CAN use that sales model doesn't mean they SHOULD.
 
Pretending something isn't in stock so you don't lose money is not a scam.

If misrepresenting your inventory because your mark has stated they don't want any extra stuff is not a scam, I don't know what is. It's a shakedown, pure and simple...
 
Lot's of name calling in this thread. You can make your point without attacking other members. You've all been warned.
 
It's still deceiving the customer. Just sayin'.

Sure, but I'm not going to get indignant about it over the semantics and technicalities of what it technically is. Its like saying you're a thief or a bad person for wanting to buy only their item you know they are going to lose money on.
 
If misrepresenting your inventory because your mark has stated they don't want any extra stuff is not a scam, I don't know what is. It's a shakedown, pure and simple...

Hahaha you just accused Office Depot of extortion.
 
Sure, but I'm not going to get indignant about it over the semantics and technicalities of what it technically is. Its like saying you're a thief or a bad person for wanting to buy only their item you know they are going to lose money on.

If they were honest and ethical, they'd price the item for what it's worth + whatever profit they wish to make and compete with other retailers on that basis, instead of using them as a loss leader to rope people in the door and either push the hard sell on the extras or run a bait and switch.
 
Pretending something isn't in stock so you don't lose money is not a scam.

It is a scam because the store won't sell the item at the listed price unless there are attachments. If the ad does not specify required attachments to make the purchase, then there is no requirement on the part of the buyer to purchase anything but the sale product.

If the store doesn't want to lose money by underpricing something, then the store shouldn't price the item for less than the store's purchase price. It's as simple as that.

 
Hahaha you just accused Office Depot of extortion.

If you really think about it, it does border on bait-and-switching, only the customer has no idea unless they do the "wrong" thing (which is to tell the salespeople upfront that they're not interested in any extras, only the advertised item)...OD lied to people, plain and simple.
 
It is a scam because the store won't sell the item at the listed price unless there are attachments. If the ad does not specify required attachments to make the purchase, then there is no requirement on the part of the buyer to purchase anything but the sale product.

If the store doesn't want to lose money by underpricing something, then the store shouldn't price the item for less than the store's purchase price. It's as simple as that.


Precisely...compete on your merits (price, selection, and service), not on trickery or deception!
 
This kind of thing pisses me off so bad I can't see straight. As a small store I can't even sell notebooks because the big B&M's loss lead virtually all the popular units then rape people on the accessories. It's the same as getting the printer cheap then getting sold a $5 USB cable for $40.

Then there I am, trying to be ethical about it and make a living selling the ACTUAL primary hardware people need and not the BS accessories they do not need... just the notebook itself and essentially I can't because I'm not willing to play the "rape them on the accessories" game.

And like everyone is saying above... we wonder WHY the B&M megastores are going under? They can't go under fast enough as far as I'm concerned. They give the rest of us a bad name and totally distort the pricing structure of electronics.

Just because they CAN use that sales model doesn't mean they SHOULD.

Yeah, it sucks but at the same time it does help the consumer get a good price. Let's fact it, we all want the lowest price and unfortunately the Best Buy's and the WalMart's of the world overall do a pretty good job of that. But a lot is sacrificed. Good, ethical service. A personal relationship between the store and the customer.

But its called capitalism and its the prevailing way of the world.
 
I'm in agreement with the posters that do not wish to buy the accessories. I can see the salesperson's point of view (ie., that they may get in trouble), but essentially, you're pitting one person's desires against another person's desires.

So, the salespeople in this thread say that customers are assholes to take advantage of them, and the customers in this thread say that salespeople are assholes for lying to them. It should be clear to see that there's no right answer here. You can't simply tell the customer that he's wrong for not caring about you. Well, when did you care about him? It's sort of one-sided that you would expect the customer to respect you, when by using this dishonest policy (regardless of who enforced it), you're not respecting the customer. If respect really goes both ways, then you have to respect the customer as well. One thing you can do is purposely tell them, "We are only selling this laptop as a package with x and y for a combined price of z. That is our offer." That's being honest. The customer knows that this is the "contract" of the deal, and the salesperson isn't lying. When you say "We'll list the low price of laptop, but not show the customer the hidden price of the accessories that we'll add on top of it, otherwise he won't be able to buy the laptop." there are a few things wrong with that.

1 - The customer doesn't know of such a ploy, so he is thinking that it's fine if he just takes the laptop and goes, and by not telling him, he is right.

2 - It's bait and switch, plain and simple. Again, you're not respecting the customer. If you do this to him, he will do it to you (bait and switch) by telling you that he'll get the accessories, then lining up at the counter with just the laptop.

So, here's what I suggest. If you're going to pull off this accessory ploy, tell people about it. Make them know that they absolutely need accessories, or it's a no go.
 
Pretending something isn't in stock so you don't lose money is not a scam.

You must be fucking kidding me! What a fucking skanky business tactic. Anyone wonder why the economy is shit? Because of bullshit excuses like this.

Where do you work again? Remind us what store to avoid.
 
I'm in agreement with the posters that do not wish to buy the accessories. I can see the salesperson's point of view (ie., that they may get in trouble), but essentially, you're pitting one person's desires against another person's desires.

So, the salespeople in this thread say that customers are assholes to take advantage of them, and the customers in this thread say that salespeople are assholes for lying to them. It should be clear to see that there's no right answer here. You can't simply tell the customer that he's wrong for not caring about you. Well, when did you care about him? It's sort of one-sided that you would expect the customer to respect you, when by using this dishonest policy (regardless of who enforced it), you're not respecting the customer. If respect really goes both ways, then you have to respect the customer as well. One thing you can do is purposely tell them, "We are only selling this laptop as a package with x and y for a combined price of z. That is our offer." That's being honest. The customer knows that this is the "contract" of the deal, and the salesperson isn't lying. When you say "We'll list the low price of laptop, but not show the customer the hidden price of the accessories that we'll add on top of it, otherwise he won't be able to buy the laptop." there are a few things wrong with that.

1 - The customer doesn't know of such a ploy, so he is thinking that it's fine if he just takes the laptop and goes, and by not telling him, he is right.

2 - It's bait and switch, plain and simple. Again, you're not respecting the customer. If you do this to him, he will do it to you (bait and switch) by telling you that he'll get the accessories, then lining up at the counter with just the laptop.

So, here's what I suggest. If you're going to pull off this accessory ploy, tell people about it. Make them know that they absolutely need accessories, or it's a no go.

You make a good point. If I were ever in that kind of a situation thats what I would have done. Thankfully I didn't have to deal with that in my time as retail. I had a few asshole customers, but nothing too bad. Couple people that expected me to bend over backwards for them, but those people are in every job. My general policy was always: If a customer is nice to me I'm going to be nice to them and go that extra mile beyond my job. If the customer is an asshole I'll still be nice to them, but they're only getting the service I am required by my job to give. I'm not going to bend over backwards to appease someone that is treating me like shit.
 
Wow 6 pages of comments in a few hours? Yikes!

Anyways... like most of these stores they don't make money on the main equipment they make it on the markups of all the accessories and service contracts they really try hard to get you buy.

Not surprising at all though, I mean Best Buy is shown to have a "special" website their employees can look stuff up on if people argue with online pricing, why wouldn't it be surprising stores do this.
 
I just go in the store and ask if something is in stock? I never have had a associate ask me whether I was going to buy a bunch of crap before they check. Maybe I have been lucky. If they did I would probably lye and say that I was thinking about getting that stuff and get the item in hand and then say no. It would be really hard for a place to bring you a item and then say they are not going to sell it to you because you refuse to bye a overpriced cable/service plane.
 
I'm in agreement with the posters that do not wish to buy the accessories. I can see the salesperson's point of view (ie., that they may get in trouble), but essentially, you're pitting one person's desires against another person's desires.

So, the salespeople in this thread say that customers are assholes to take advantage of them, and the customers in this thread say that salespeople are assholes for lying to them. It should be clear to see that there's no right answer here. You can't simply tell the customer that he's wrong for not caring about you. Well, when did you care about him? It's sort of one-sided that you would expect the customer to respect you, when by using this dishonest policy (regardless of who enforced it), you're not respecting the customer.
1 - The customer doesn't know of such a ploy, so he is thinking that it's fine if he just takes the laptop and goes, and by not telling him, he is right.

2 - It's bait and switch, plain and simple. Again, you're not respecting the customer. If you do this to him, he will do it to you (bait and switch) by telling you that he'll get the accessories, then lining up at the counter with just the laptop.

I don't seem to recall anyone saying customers are assholes and trying to take advantage of salespeople. Maybe I missed it?


If respect really goes both ways, then you have to respect the customer as well. One thing you can do is purposely tell them, "We are only selling this laptop as a package with x and y for a combined price of z. That is our offer." That's being honest. The customer knows that this is the "contract" of the deal, and the salesperson isn't lying. When you say "We'll list the low price of laptop, but not show the customer the hidden price of the accessories that we'll add on top of it, otherwise he won't be able to buy the laptop." there are a few things wrong with that.

So, here's what I suggest. If you're going to pull off this accessory ploy, tell people about it. Make them know that they absolutely need accessories, or it's a no go.

This is an absolute DO NOT DO. The problem here is that a lot of regional / general / sales management are employing top-down policies that, while not from corporate offices, are negatively affecting customer satisfaction while keeping the store high in percentage attachment sales. This of course always results in the lowest tier of support, the sales person, being the culpable one when the customer finds out the truth.

But, you know, for those sales people its 1) do you want to keep your job / high hours? 2) want your commission?
 
Pretending something isn't in stock so you don't lose money is not a scam.

scam

noun
1. a fraudulent business scheme

verb
1. deprive of by deceit; "He swindled me out of my inheritance"; "She defrauded the customers who trusted her"; "the cashier gypped me when he gave me too little change"

Here's a tip: If your gonna spew bullshit, make sure you actually have a clue as to what your talking about first.
 
I don't seem to recall anyone saying customers are assholes and trying to take advantage of salespeople. Maybe I missed it?

I think so. I'm paraphrasing, not quoting, but this thread is primarily divided into two factions, the people that would take advantage and the people that wouldn't. All you have to do is read the first few pages for insults thrown between these two groups.

This is an absolute DO NOT DO. The problem here is that a lot of regional / general / sales management are employing top-down policies that, while not from corporate offices, are negatively affecting customer satisfaction while keeping the store high in percentage attachment sales. This of course always results in the lowest tier of support, the sales person, being the culpable one when the customer finds out the truth.

But, you know, for those sales people its 1) do you want to keep your job / high hours? 2) want your commission?

So you're saying you don't like my idea? If you are, then enjoy fighting the salesperson vs. customer tactic. I mean, it's unfortunate, that as a low-tier salesperson, you don't have much choice in the matter. It's a crummy job, but if that's the only job you can get, then that's the only job you can get. If I truly felt sorry enough to buy the additional accessories, then there would also be plenty of other people that I'd truly feel sorry for, so you'll have to excuse me if I can't help you much here.
 
To quote Cyrilix:

"One thing you can do is purposely tell them, "We are only selling this laptop as a package with x and y for a combined price of z. That is our offer." That's being honest. The customer knows that this is the "contract" of the deal, and the salesperson isn't lying. When you say "We'll list the low price of laptop, but not show the customer the hidden price of the accessories that we'll add on top of it, otherwise he won't be able to buy the laptop." there are a few things wrong with that."

A store in our region did this with a hot sale item that we weren't making any money on (and probably losing money on). They bundled accessories into a basket with the desired item. If the customer wanted the item, they had to buy the package. Their numbers were better than any other numbers in any of the 13 stores in my district, and better than all the stores in their district for that holiday sale as well (I can't remember whether it was BF or another big sale.)

Shortly after the holiday the involved managers were fired. Forcing a customer to buy a bundle when all they want is the single item a AGAINST COMPANY POLICY. I see what you're saying, and as a Best Buy employee for the last four years, I appreciate you not only defending the customer, but also defending the retailer. However, I cannot condone forced bundle selling, or telling a customer product is unavailable when it really is available.

I know it's hard to give someone a great sales pitch and really connect with them - or at least get along well with them - and then have them by nothing but the item you are losing on.

But you know what? It's in your frakking ad. Sell it. Make up for it somewhere else. Feel good about hooking your customer up with a good deal. I like to attach a lot and sell big packages. It feels good to hit a "home run." But sometimes that's all people can afford. This is more often the case in my store. People just don't have budget for it available, or don't get approved for enough financing because of bad credit. Does that make them "lesser people" than the high rollers that want everything done for them and warrantied for twenty years? Absolutely not. Thank goodness we don't work on commission. Helps us not feel so bad. And after all, best buy put the product in the ad. I'll try hard to attach, but I'm very happy to sell the naked product. And if I give that customer damned good service, he'll come back to buy more stuff later. Who knows, we might even sell something to him someday we make money on. :D

I guarantee if I piss him off, he'll never shop there again, unless there's another extreme sale or clearance item we lose a buttload of money on. Then he'll come buy three just to spite us! You gotta pick your battles.

Now when I try to attach, to just do my job, and the customer is rude or condescending about it - THAT pisses me off. I ring him up and point to the door.

It's a sad state we're in, where it's so cutthroat and competitive that you have to lose money on product just to get people in the door. It would be nice to have perhaps lower, but more standardized margin platforms across the market, but that would be impossible to do without putting too much control over things.
 
To quote Cyrilix:

"One thing you can do is purposely tell them, "We are only selling this laptop as a package with x and y for a combined price of z. That is our offer." That's being honest. The customer knows that this is the "contract" of the deal, and the salesperson isn't lying. When you say "We'll list the low price of laptop, but not show the customer the hidden price of the accessories that we'll add on top of it, otherwise he won't be able to buy the laptop." there are a few things wrong with that."

A store in our region did this with a hot sale item that we weren't making any money on (and probably losing money on). They bundled accessories into a basket with the desired item. If the customer wanted the item, they had to buy the package. Their numbers were better than any other numbers in any of the 13 stores in my district, and better than all the stores in their district for that holiday sale as well (I can't remember whether it was BF or another big sale.)

Shortly after the holiday the involved managers were fired. Forcing a customer to buy a bundle when all they want is the single item a AGAINST COMPANY POLICY. I see what you're saying, and as a Best Buy employee for the last four years, I appreciate you not only defending the customer, but also defending the retailer. However, I cannot condone forced bundle selling, or telling a customer product is unavailable when it really is available.

I know it's hard to give someone a great sales pitch and really connect with them - or at least get along well with them - and then have them by nothing but the item you are losing on.

But you know what? It's in your frakking ad. Sell it. Make up for it somewhere else. Feel good about hooking your customer up with a good deal. I like to attach a lot and sell big packages. It feels good to hit a "home run." But sometimes that's all people can afford. This is more often the case in my store. People just don't have budget for it available, or don't get approved for enough financing because of bad credit. Does that make them "lesser people" than the high rollers that want everything done for them and warrantied for twenty years? Absolutely not. Thank goodness we don't work on commission. Helps us not feel so bad. And after all, best buy put the product in the ad. I'll try hard to attach, but I'm very happy to sell the naked product. And if I give that customer damned good service, he'll come back to buy more stuff later. Who knows, we might even sell something to him someday we make money on. :D

I guarantee if I piss him off, he'll never shop there again, unless there's another extreme sale or clearance item we lose a buttload of money on. Then he'll come buy three just to spite us! You gotta pick your battles.

Now when I try to attach, to just do my job, and the customer is rude or condescending about it - THAT pisses me off. I ring him up and point to the door.

It's a sad state we're in, where it's so cutthroat and competitive that you have to lose money on product just to get people in the door. It would be nice to have perhaps lower, but more standardized margin platforms across the market, but that would be impossible to do without putting too much control over things.

You're what a good salesperson is and should be...give the customer what they want and don't hard sell the extras (though make a tasteful pitch for them) while giving them service with a smile. People put up with a lot of shit at home and work, they shouldn't have to put up with it when they go to spend their hard-earned money.
 
The attitude displayed by some people who are either present or former retail sales people toward the customer is simply appalling. You act as if the customer were the enemy. The customer is the entire reason you have a job. The old saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" still applies. You might "make your numbers" one time by shafting a customer, but there's a good chance you will never make a repeat sale with that customer. Not only that but your bad behaviour, no matter who tells you to do so, has the chance of driving the customer permanently away from the entire chain. All this just more proof of a business culture in the US that is corrupt and broken from the very top, to the very bottom. If you want proof as to why banks, investment firms, mortgage companies, etc are failing, it's dishonesty like this on a macro scale. Nothing matter but "making the numbers".

No wonder B&M sales are falling while online sales are rising.

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Out of the three laptops I have purchased at Best Buy, I have had a negative experience with all of them. I say I want x laptop, they go to the back, come back and say there is not any instock but we have the same x laptop with our premium package with the battery charged for $50 more. After debating with the sales rep, I walk out with the laptop that was in the ad for the advertised price. It's a scam pure and simple.

I don't know how they know that I'm not going to get the "extras" but they figue it out and tell me they are out of stock everytime. To those of you saying that this is not a scam, please stop defending these companies that are ripping off consumers everyday. It is unethical and should be stopped.
 
What are these "extras" they keep talking about, if I go in to buy a notebook, what else would I buy there?
 
i occasionally did that when i worked at compUSA, only because our managers would write us up if we continually sold a low profit item (laptop) without a bag, camera, cd's, software, printer, blah.
its really not that uncommon, the only way to make sure it to CALL the store and ask how many they have in stock.
and really, its not the salesman's fault, a lot of us have a conscious (myself included), its just that there's a lot of pressure to produce numbers, or lose your job.
 
I knew they did what they could to make you buy stupid overprices extras, but outright lying, no wonder people rather buy online. Although there some places have the opposite problem, they list the item as availiable, but actually they have to order it which takes weeks sometimes, but that is why you use trusted online stores.
 
i occasionally did that when i worked at compUSA, only because our managers would write us up if we continually sold a low profit item (laptop) without a bag, camera, cd's, software, printer, blah.
its really not that uncommon, the only way to make sure it to CALL the store and ask how many they have in stock.
and really, its not the salesman's fault, a lot of us have a conscious (myself included), its just that there's a lot of pressure to produce numbers, or lose your job.

And remind us again what happened to CompUSA?
 
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