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The European Commission raided Intel's offices in Munich along with several retailers. Intel says they are cooperating with authorities.

The Commission also raided retailers including Germany's Media Markt, a unit of trading company Metro, the company said. "I can confirm that Commission officials have carried out unannounced inspections at the plants of a manufacturer of central processing units (CPUs)", said Jonathan Todd, a spokesman for the Commission in Brussels. He said retailers were also raided.
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I guess we didn't eliminate all of the gestapos in 1945.
 
Jolly good show. The EU is bullying Intel again because AMD can't perform well enough to stay competitive. Glad that I live in Canada.
 
See, if I were intel... I'd just stop selling processors in countries dominated by the EU, for jokes.

Sell to China, Japan, North and South America, and let the EU bastards use AMD.

It'll take them weeks to write up the draft proposals on those Barcelonas :p
 
Leon2ky said:
The EU never ceases to amaze me.
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FIY the same thing happened to Samsung when Samsung was investigated in S Korea for similar reasons.

But now your feelings - along with those of other fanboys - are hurt because it happens in the EU, and it it aimed at a US company.

I am sure if Intel were to do the same thing in the US, authorities would be doing EXACTLY the same thing. So what's your beef with the EU?

There's nothing like bigotry, now is there!
 
If intel were to do the same thing in the US.. what're you talking about?
 
aShrubbery! said:
FIY the same thing happened to Samsung when Samsung was investigated in S Korea for similar reasons.

But now your feelings - along with those of other fanboys - are hurt because it happens in the EU, and it it aimed at a US company.

I am sure if Intel were to do the same thing in the US, authorities would be doing EXACTLY the same thing. So what's your beef with the EU?

There's nothing like bigotry, now is there!
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Kind of like how Microsoft is being investigated AGAIN because Opera's browser sucks and nobody will use it?
M$ should sell IE separately of course, because people wouldn't bitch and moan if they bought windows and found out they had no browser to get on the internet with.

The EU is pissing many Americans off because it seems to be targeting American businesses with no real reason.
 
Oh4Sh0 said:
Kind of like how Microsoft is being investigated AGAIN because Opera's browser sucks and nobody will use it?
M$ should sell IE separately of course, because people wouldn't bitch and moan if they bought windows and found out they had no browser to get on the internet with.

The EU is pissing many Americans off because it seems to be targeting American businesses with no real reason.
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Pardon me, but Opera is far from suck and lots of people use it. I for one am one of those people. It gets all the good features before Firefox and doesn't eat up 500 MB of RAM with 13 tabs open. Firefox is an Opera wannabe clone.
 
L33t Masta said:
Jolly good show. The EU is bullying Intel again because AMD can't perform well enough to stay competitive. Glad that I live in Canada.
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Orly?


The raids come as Intel faces a closed hearing in Brussels on March 11 and 12 on charges that it slashed prices below cost and offered huge rebates in an attempt to drive smaller competitor Advanced Micro Devices out of the market.
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Gosh, where does it say what you said?
 
Hopefully this will make everyone think twice before running a successfully business. :rolleyes:
 
L33t Masta said:
Read between the lines. That's just bureaucrat talk for "Our company sucks please save it.
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I read between the lines of your posts, and I see you posting exactly the FUD needed to fire everyone up. You live off the chaos you cause here on the [H] forums.
 
Oh4Sh0 said:
If intel were to do the same thing in the US.. what're you talking about?
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If Intel were engaging in anti-competitive practices, i.e. "abuse of a dominant position" as mentionned in the article, authorities would have the obligation to intervene. If there are allegations of any wrongdoings they should be investigated, whether you're the underdog or the top competitor.
 
Met-AL said:
I read between the lines of your posts, and I see you posting exactly the FUD needed to fire everyone up. You live off the chaos you cause here on the [H] forums.
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Now that is a very hurtful accusation and I find it very offensive that you would attack me personally like that.
 
aShrubbery! said:
If you had a clue of what you're talking about, you wouldn't be posting that garbage!
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Oh lighten the fuck up. EU has been doing nothing but bullying the hell out of companies whom they cannot compete or don't want to compete against. "If you can't win, sue them" has been their mentality for awhile now. If AMD was doing so well in Germany, I bet you everything the EU won't go after them for antitrust and monopolistic violations.

You can sugarcoat it all you want, but the bottom line is the EU has not been able to sucessfully compete with some of their products and they don't like that. Well too fucking bad. Try harder or deal with it.

The EU has the upper hand in engineering and robotics and cloning and stem cell technologies. You don't see the rest of the world suing them.
 
Oh, and before you accuse me of being an Intel fanboy, look at my sig. I've never once bought an Intel processor.
 
Oh4Sh0 said:
The EU is pissing many Americans off because it seems to be targeting American businesses with no real reason.
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No real reason to YOU!!

You assume they are innocent, just because they are US companies.

If any foreign company were doing the same thing in the US, you would be at their throat calling a jihad upon them.

In case you didn't read the article, a german retailer (Media Markt) is also investigated for a probable involvement in this matter.

Also, this here is an ongoing investigation, and no sentence has been pronounced yet.

Usually, the reason authorities raid a company's HQ is because some documents might vanish into thin air. They have a warrant to seize any documents as specified therein.

Furthermore, AMD is a US company.

So, keep your political rants and insinuations in the off-topic forums.
 
Azhar said:
Oh lighten the fuck up. EU has been doing nothing but bullying the hell out of companies whom they cannot compete or don't want to compete against. "If you can't win, sue them" has been their mentality for awhile now. If AMD was doing so well in Germany, I bet you everything the EU won't go after them for antitrust and monopolistic violations.

You can sugarcoat it all you want, but the bottom line is the EU has not been able to sucessfully compete with some of their products and they don't like that. Well too fucking bad. Try harder or deal with it.

The EU has the upper hand in engineering and robotics and cloning and stem cell technologies. You don't see the rest of the world suing them.
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AMD is an US company.

Just because they have their processor plant in Dresden, doesn't make them any less american.

I am not sure their main shareholders are Germans or EU residents for that matter.

In this case of AMD not being able to compete it is not the EU fault, nor their responsibility, but it is AMD's.

Isn't it funny how YOU decide to paint AMD as a european business now, just because at this moment, their processors fall behind Intel? Not only is it funny, but it shows clears streaks of bigotry.
 
I wonder if Media Markt will be buying from AMD now that AMD had it's offices raided by the EU. :p How to make friends, AMD-style.
 
pxc said:
I wonder if Media Markt will be buying from AMD now that AMD had it's offices raided by the EU. :p How to make friends, AMD-style.
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Apparently they where not buying many from AMD in the first place, thus the raid.
 
aShrubbery! said:
AMD is an US company.

Just because they have their processor plant in Dresden, doesn't make them any less american.

I am not sure their main shareholders are Germans or EU residents for that matter.

In this case of AMD not being able to compete it is not the EU fault, nor their responsibility, but it is AMD's.

Isn't it funny how YOU decide to paint AMD as a european business now, just because at this moment, their processors fall behind Intel? Not only is it funny, but it shows clears streaks of bigotry.
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I thought AMD was Germany's. I'm not a bigot, piss off with the race card. My point stands, if it was an European company that did well, they would turn their head the other way.
 
L33t Masta said:
That's just bureaucrat talk for "Our company sucks please save it.
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It's statements like these, that make it perfectly clear that you absolutely, positively, most certainly don't have a clue about the issue.

AMD is not owned by the EU.

Is that clear, enough?

Wan't a neon sign around it?
 
aShrubbery! said:
It's statements like these, that make it perfectly clear that you absolutely, positively, most certainly don't have a clue about the issue.

AMD is not owned by the EU.

Is that clear, enough?

Wan't a neon sign around it?
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Please note: I never said AMD was a european country.
 
Cannon_Fodder said:
Apparently they where not buying many from AMD in the first place, thus the raid.
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I kind of said exactly that: "I wonder if Media Markt will be buying from AMD now...". :p

The whole "rebates are bad" stance AMD has now is ridiculous. AMD has also done rebates to manufacturers in the past and might still be doing it with their largest customers (cough HP). And AMD's other claim is not that Intel sold chips not below cost but "below average cost" (look up the complaint). :rolleyes: What math challenged moron thinks that means anything*. An average price implies that some sell for less and some for more.

* for cash extraction (fine) puposes, this is a good enough standard.
 
I am so tired of the EU thinking they can be the world police against American company dominance in certain fields. Why don't they pump some money into AMD and leave raids and lawsuits out of it if you are that afraid of American companies being so dominant in the marketplace.
 
Bleh, no edit. Fixed 2nd paragraph:

The whole "rebates are bad" stance AMD has now is ridiculous. AMD has also done rebates to manufacturers in the past and might still be doing it with their largest customers (cough HP). And AMD's other claim is not that Intel sold chips below cost but "below average price" (look up the complaint). :rolleyes: What math challenged moron thinks that means anything*. An average price implies that some sell for less and some for more.

* for cash extraction (fine) puposes, this is a good enough standard.
 
aShrubbery! said:
You most definitely did imply it!
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I didn't read it that way. You're just on the defensive man...

So, Intel slashed their prices below where AMD can make a profit. Wow, sounds exactly like every other corporate takeover, replacement of BnM stores with big box stores, etc.
 
last time I checked amd out performs intel in every aspect so the only explanation for amd not selling well is that Intel is cheating.

Intel is just a bunch of hackers get them EU stop the cheat codes.
 
pxc said:
I wonder if Media Markt will be buying from AMD now that AMD had it's offices raided by the EU. :p How to make friends, AMD-style.
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I guess all they expected was for Media Markt to carry PCs with AMD processors.

Also, note that it does not mention anything that could have happened in the last year only.

Apparently it goes back six years, and six years ago AMD was far from being the underdog.
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We all know how the Athlon series performed. Before Intel came out with their C2D AMD was doing pretty good.

Intel is accused of stiffling AMDs sales by using their dominant position as the market leader, slashing prices of their processors below cost, and handing out juicy rebates. That's the beef authorities have.
 
aShrubbery! said:
I guess all they expected was for Media Markt to carry PCs with AMD processors.

Also, note that it does not mention anything that could have happened in the last year only.

Apparently it goes back six years, and six years ago AMD was far from being the underdog.
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We all know how the Athlon series performed. Before Intel came out with their C2D AMD was doing pretty good.

Intel is accused of stiffling AMDs sales by using their dominant position as the market leader, slashing prices of their processors below cost, and handing out juicy rebates. That's the beef authorities have.
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They have a beef with a company for passing savings to the consumers. LOL. Yeah, here in America we call it free enterprise.
 
Intel is accused of stiffling AMDs sales by using their dominant position as the market leader, slashing prices of their processors below cost, and handing out juicy rebates. That's the beef authorities have.
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That pisses me off though. They're doing well, and want to boost sales numbers by making their products more enticing.

I'm all for protecting competition, but why stifle innovation in the process.
 
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