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yeah but the problem there is your cant just change power companies not like most that can do it with the ISP
FIOS > Cox (hehe I said Cox) 2.5MB over here. ;-P At least they do that for ya though. The second FIOS was available in my area, I was all over it. I dropped Time Warner faster than you can say Roadrunner. I just things stay competitive and FIOS survives, this way us FIOS subscribers don't see any of this monopoly bullshit like the Cable customers are starting to see.I'm glad that I am on Cox that provides me 12Mb internet connection for $59 a month that also has Power Boost so that if there is Extra Bandwidth availible, I would get the file I am downloading even faster. I don't believe many people see 2MB speeds on their downloads.
Cox Communications RULES.
If they tried that BS in my area, I would cancel on the spot.
Case in point, we recently lost power for 4 days due to the ice storms in Oklahoma. Many people were without power for up to 3 weeks. Our electric bill was much HIGHER that month than it would have been even though we had no power whatsoever for 4 days. How is that fair? Their justification was that it cost them x amount of dollars to restore power, so they in effect, passed that cost on to their customers so that they could still turn a profit that month.
DSL is available in most areas. Other more drastic options would be to go with other connections such as T1 or similar (although this would be extreme).
Now if they charged more for those 5% of folks, but offered unlimited bandwith, then I think it may not be such a bad idea.
As some insight I work for a power company and we are regulated by federal mandates. For rate increases you are required to present your case with 800 some page documents. I have worked storms that take days to restore and for the most part people work very hard during those times so some paitence is appreciated. If you saw your rate increase that quickly it sounds like you get your power from a muni which is doesn't make a profit and probably the cheapest power you can get.
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Nah, they found a loop hole. They claim they were not able to read the meters because they were too busy making repairs, so they "guessed" at what your usage would be based off of last years records. Their "guess" was much higher than usage had ever been.![]()
"Largely, people won't notice the difference," said the Time Warner Cable spokesman. "We don't want customers to feel they're getting less for more." News of Time Warner Cable's plans was originally leaked on an online industry forum BroadbandReports.com.
Ahahahah...You're a funny guy...I am confused here. Light users will only get charges a very small amount... lower then the base rate that is in place now...
So billR, your pissed because an ISP told ME i could use my Internet with NO limits, no nothing, go nuts, share those files with friends and family, and now that i am, i am getting punished with "invisible limits" not clearly defined anywhere, being threatened to be cut off because i am using what i thought i had paid for...
Oh, and i am not using Bittorrent or P2P for illegal reasons, lets say i make home movies? or i use msn or something to send many pictures over my 10mb/1mb FIOZ or cable line? OH wait, or download Linux, or amny other free, legit software you can get over P2P networks.......
So , now it is my fault that i was lied to by advertising and a company by actually EXPECTING to get to use what I PAID FOR, i PAID for it so i should be able to use it how I WISH, if not, then make it clear in your contracts that i am capped @ X speed, and you are going to throttle my bandwidth because YOU think i am doing something illegal Oh but not tell me and deny it all!
it is like buying a car and being told, sorry you cant drive that on a highway cause it will add to traffic, you have to stay on side roads cause we cant be bothered to update our roads and through ways, cause god forbid people actually expected to use a highway to go fast.
ISP's don't want to spend the money on their end to hold up their side of the deal about high speed access, streaming content TO YOU from other sites, what about Apple now renting DVD and soon HD content? there are many legit ways to use alot of bandwidth....
I'm sorry, but everyone that is on here bitching is an idiot. It makes good business sense to charge by usage. Set a flat rate for a bandwidth limit that 95% of people won't go over, and have people pay extra for extra bandwidth in tiers and by units if they go over. Phone, electric, water, gas, etc companies all do it. And yeah, okay, it's annoying, but it makes sense: these systems are finite. Everyone keeps whining about some sort of entitlement to an unlimited internet. That's absurd. Grow up.
My personal preference would be to have them do away with bandwidth limits at a given time and just charge by usage. Use a load balancer to distribute maximal bandwidth to every concurrent user, and then what you pay for in tiers is the total bandwidth not instantaneous bandwidth. This would then give the companies proper incentive to beef up their infrastructure so they can make more money off the people maxing out their connection a lot.
I think this is a good pilot program, but it needs some work. For instance, late night bandwidth should be unlimited (i.e. between the hours of 1AM-8AM), and then if you want to dl a torrent, set up a scheduler. I think you'll see providers moving towards this just as cell phone companies have.
OK well since you think you're a genius among us, why don't you go ahead and tell us idiots what you think we should be paying. Because I think $50 a month more than covers it. AFAIK, cable lines are shared resource in neighborhoods, so ISP's are effectively getting thousands of dollars per node per month, more than it's worth per month. But what do I know, I'm an idiot.
Wow. You just justified Time Warner's charging more for the same thing they already advertise and sell right now. I never knew people supported false advertisement and agreed with a bullshit tactic of screwing consumers out of what they were sold.
If they succeed in this nonsense, I am personally blaming you![]()
So billR, your pissed because an ISP told ME i could use my Internet with NO limits, no nothing, go nuts, share those files with friends and family, and now that i am, i am getting punished with "invisible limits" not clearly defined anywhere, being threatened to be cut off because i am using what i thought i had paid for...
Oh, and i am not using Bittorrent or P2P for illegal reasons, lets say i make home movies? or i use msn or something to send many pictures over my 10mb/1mb FIOZ or cable line? OH wait, or download Linux, or amny other free, legit software you can get over P2P networks.......
So , now it is my fault that i was lied to by advertising and a company by actually EXPECTING to get to use what I PAID FOR, i PAID for it so i should be able to use it how I WISH, if not, then make it clear in your contracts that i am capped @ X speed, and you are going to throttle my bandwidth because YOU think i am doing something illegal Oh but not tell me and deny it all!
it is like buying a car and being told, sorry you cant drive that on a highway cause it will add to traffic, you have to stay on side roads cause we cant be bothered to update our roads and through ways, cause god forbid people actually expected to use a highway to go fast.
ISP's don't want to spend the money on their end to hold up their side of the deal about high speed access, streaming content TO YOU from other sites, what about Apple now renting DVD and soon HD content? there are many legit ways to use alot of bandwidth....
[N]ow they are going back to that model.
Good solution from the user's point of view but will never be implemented because it won't benefit ISPs:
Have a tiered class system based on given time window (say, 30 day average)
Example:
Light user: < 1GB
Medium user: 1GB - 10GB
Heavy user: > 10GB
Then, once total bandwidth usage exceeds a certain threshhold, start throttling traffic based upon class.
For example,
Say total usage is over 80%. Light users would be left alone, Medium users would be someone limited, and heavy users will be more limited.
This way even during peak hours light users will still get full benefit from their connection, yet medium and heavy users will still be functional. And during off-peak hours anyone can use the available bandwidth.
It's a test.
they are just going to us it to judge customer reaction

I have no clue who your ISP might be, and frankly it doesnt matter. Please check out the links below and show me where anyone has unlimited service. Point of fact, in every one of these TOS policies if you are my neighbor and your use of your account slows my use and enjoyment of my account, your account may be terminated with no notice.
Way back in the day when I first signed up for internet access finding an ISP was all but impossible, it simply wasnt a viable business so there was no reason to start one.
I did however sign up for CompuServe which was the only alternative to local BBS services and they had more and better indexed content. AOL didnt exist yet and at that time there were no forums, no web sites, and no chat rooms.
To participate in CompuServe you first had to buy their kit at $24.95 and after a whopping 12 free hours your account reverted to $2.50 per minute connect time and if you actually owned a 2400 baud modem you were the shiznet.
The entire system was text based and really was nothing more then a better organized BBS with more content that you could actually access at will. When trying to use someones personal BBS they were mostly free but were limited to 2 or maybe three phone lines and after x amount of time you were simply cut off to allow access for other people.
CompuServe being text based with no real menu system could easily cost you a small fortune in one evening just learning your way around. Oh, if you had no local access in your area CompuServe would be glad to still have your business and provide you with a toll free number for only $5.00 a minute.
Along came AOL with a GUI based system and much bigger network of phones lines and bigger modem tables and they actually started the social community idea and chat was the norm. At first they started at the same rates as CompuServe but had much more to offer and a much better navigation system, especially the private chat rooms.
The internet did exist through out this period but was limited to Government and educational facilities. AOL was the first, or among the first to actually grant individuals to the internet, local ISPs were suddenly viable and the rest is history. I only bring all this up for those of you who are unfamiliar with how we got where we are today.
For years the only access to the net was through your local dial up ISP and the idea of 24/7 connections were out of the question. That too changed and for usually $10.00 more per month you could stay connected 24/7 and you needed a ping program to keep from being cut off but the open online community was now available to anyone for free by way of IRC and EF Net. Chat, love and online romance blossomed plus you could transfer files if you had unlimited time and didnt get cut off.
Along came high speed access, cable and things got much better. Personal web sites abounded commercial web sites, complete with advertising came along and again, it was all good. No ISP anywhere was prepared for the advent of Napster or any PtoP programs and streaming data was a dream way off in the future.
Look where we are now. I pay about the same as I did when Comcast started offering high speed access and I guess Im one of the few who still looks at that as a bargain when compared to a mere 10 years ago.
Now we live in an age of Bit Torrents, Pipes and God knows how many other file sharing programs all of which consume tens of millions times more access then ever and you folk expect the ISP to simply eat that because you figure you are entitled to do as you please with your connection.
Why should I pay more because of your abuse? I keep bringing this up but read your TOS, you are not allowed by any ISP to become a server and that is exactly what you are doing.
Go ahead and move to another ISP and you will find the same situation. Even FIOS is monitored as is DSL and when your usage hits a certain point, boom, you get the letter first, you get cut off second, or you have the option of paying by usage. You seem to forget that regardless of your ISP they buy bandwidth from a fixed number of hubs around the country and the hubs want more money.
Add to all this everyone wants streaming content such as TV service and someone has to pay for it and those of you with your Bit Torrents etc. are simply giving the ISPs the very excuse they need to rethink the whole business model. Why would you want to continue to sell a product for no profit? This very forum probably uses less bandwidth then 15 to 20 Bit Torrents running 24/7/365 yet do you think Kyle would try to run this thing over his home ISP? I dont think that would last very long.
I got asked the other day Who pissed on your cheerios?. Well, right now you abusers of bandwidth are. Why do I have to suffer because you are too cheap to go by a CD or DVD or High Def DVD?
Your pure greed and entitlement thinking will cost the rest of us money and at the same time you are playing right into the hands of the RIAA types and creating a problem that shouldnt exist.
It sucks, and I blame YOU.![]()