It wasn't just "not perfect" but a hot mess of inconsistency. There is some great stuff there but also a lot of garbage. We also had decades of EU material which was so expansive that it was hard to keep track of. Disney being selective about what they should keep and toss out the airlock made sense to me. The problem is that Disney didn't keep enough of the good stuff and added way too much bad shit to the universe.Disney seems to selectively hate the expanded universe. Its not pefect but theres so much good material they threw out the window.
You sound like me! I remember seeing Star Wars, Empire, and RotJ in the theaters during their first runs. I had almost all the toys and still have them to this day. For all the criticism of the prequels (including my own), at least the core mythology was intact and The Clone Wars salvaged some of it.I consider myself a Star Wars fan apart from other fans. If you toured my house or work space youd see stars wars vehicles galor but not single reference to all the ancillary bs like jedis and sith. As an artist and an engineer Im obsessed with ralph mcquarries "lived in universe" and designs. I have a huge display at work including a "sales features" poster for the AT-AT. I also consider myself a movie buff. "Last Jedi" is, star wars aside, one of the worst fucking movies Ive ever seen. Thats including the prequels. Its literally just 2 hours of discortent nonsense and bait and switch plot lines thatt go no where. its a fucking travesty that carrie fishers last film was this wet garbage. at least anton yelkin went out on a high note with "the green room". The sad thing is "Solo" is close to great and no one will remember it a year from now. Rian did great with "brick" but man he murdered star wars.
A Thrawn movie was never going to happen as long as Lucas owned SW, but Disney is greedy so it might one day.Disney seems to selectively hate the expanded universe. Its not pefect but theres so much good material they threw out the window.
Remember, Star Wars spans a large galaxy with tens of thousands of inhabited planets and thousands of years of history. Any random filmmaker could make a Star Wars film set in a remote corner of the galaxy without any connection to the Skywalkers, Empire, Jedi, etc.Oh come ON. How many holes could Star Wars possibly have left that haven't already been fucked? Just let it die in peace.
Burn it all down and start over? Not a bad idea.Episode 9 should reveal that basically all of Episode VIII was a force dream of a possible 'fucking horrible' possible future... Then they can fix that clusterfuck of a movie and get shit back on track, pick up with Rey meeting Luke on that island, but something different happens after that.
Nah, I don't think Luke's character was ruined. This story arc is a tragedy where the Republic fails to completely take hold. Luke loses his students to evil and goes into exile in search of an ancient Unknown World, believing the Jedi merely perpetuate the conflict. I liked all the subtle connections to KOTOR.I can appreciate the twist of killing off Snoke the way they did. Ruining Luke's character really came across as "because I'm the director and I want to leave my mark."
There’s realistic and unrealistic events for even a fictional universe.i dont get why people say star wars new movies are lame, i dont consider myself an star wars big fan, but i've seen the last ones and they seem good and enjoyable, and the history is good. Also, afaik there are no writting novels/books of the current events of the saga so there's no way to compare it to anything and say things like "the history is bad" or "that wasn't supposed to happen"...
I know lucas handed them an outline as part of the sale and they threw it in the garbage. I'm not sure why. Katheen kennedy has a wealth of credit under her belt, I really dont know what got into her. The funny thing is they originally gave the trilogy to Michael Arndt, the guy who wrote Toy Story 3. He spent a couple years on it and Disney started getting nervous. The anniversary was rolling around and they asked him to wrap it up in 6 months. He told them they were nuts and doing a proper trilogy script and outline would take another year at least. Disney "let him go" and called in JJ Abrams to spin something up. He threw together Force Awakens in a few months right on schedule though obviously its really subpar copy pasta like literally everything he does. They paid Lawrence Kasdan to put his name on it but I'd bet anything he didnt have fuck all to do with it. Force Awakens is tired and a mess. Ive seen it maybe 1 and a half times.Star Wars was pretty much dead after Lucas split from his first wife. I don't recall the whole backstory, but it usually involved Lucas being a whiny bitch and her telling him to man up when no studio wanted to produce a "space opera" while re-writing his crappy dialogues. She won an academy award for her editing work on the first Star Wars movie even. They divorced in 1983, same year that Return of the Jedi was released.
So unless those two get back together, there probably won't be any decent Star Wars movies.
It’s probably racist and/or sexist to call the new characters anything but awesome^ I get that Disney wants to cast a new generation of heroes since the original trilogy actors are older, but to totally turn off the fans of the original is stupid intentional or not. I mean they do realize who the parents of most of the next generation of fans are right? I enjoyed TLJ, but man did I realize I don't love Star Wars any more because the new characters are pretty bland.
Nah, they were still bad. Sith is the closest one to being good, but its still a huge mess and feels like Lucas tried to cram multiple movies into one. The entire prequel trilogy is poorly paced, poorly written, poorly acted, poorly directed, etc. They fall into the same traps as almost every prequel story. Over explaining, breaking continuity, and focusing too much on trying to give an answer to every tiny detail.I think people were too harsh on the prequals. They are still great movies even if they tend to slog about, they still feel like star wars. Episode 7 was good, but not amazing. Episode 8 i fell asleep in the theater, it was horrible. Solo and Rogue one were both good movies.
Agreed! Rogue One nailed it...I was happy there weren't a bunch of Jedi in it either. (Just Darth Vader at the end, yes, I know he's not a jedi...)Rogue one was the best SW movie to come out in the last 30 years, everything else was horrible.
The prequels did a very good job of demonstrating just how important Marcia Lucas was to the OT. It's also worth noting that the younger kids enjoyed the prequels more then the cranky older fans (such as myself), which was the point. I just wish someone competent would do a sequel to Willow!Nah, they were still bad. Sith is the closest one to being good, but its still a huge mess and feels like Lucas tried to cram multiple movies into one. The entire prequel trilogy is poorly paced, poorly written, poorly acted, poorly directed, etc. They fall into the same traps as almost every prequel story. Over explaining, breaking continuity, and focusing too much on trying to give an answer to every tiny detail.
The bolded part above is the problem. It seems like he wanted the movie to be a Rian Johnson movie, not a Star Wars movie. Fans want a Star Wars movie, and the name of the director doesn't matter as much to them.Rian is more of a filmmaker where he actually wants to say something. And i think he did, he had commentary on heros, legends, and how rebellions start. He also weaved other things from the start to the end of the film. Also characters need to change, especially if they "exist" in the story for decades.
Luke was old because of how much time had passed since ROTJ and the age of the actor who portrats him named Mark Hamill. The timeline was already set as of Force Awakens too so there was no way you could have been satisfied.Fans of the franchise like what Luke became in the original trilogy, and that's the character they want to see. The original trilogy took a whiny, naive boy and followed his Hero's Journey to the end. Fans wanted to see him as he appeared at the end of TLJ, but for real. To instead transform Luke into a bitter old hermit who refuses to fight is to essentially undo the entire story arc of the original trilogy. And to what end? There are a gazillion ways they could have given Luke an appropriate sendoff in TLJ, but they chose the exact opposite. For.....reasons?
Heroes are aspirational, i.e. someone we want to be like, and destroying the hero's character is not what fans want, nor does it make for a good movie.
I really liked Rogue One, but found Solo to be a decent but fairly average movie. I don't know why you say it has good character development. I think it has none at all. Han starts out as a roguish good guy, in the middle of the movie he's a roguish good guy and he ends the movie being a roguish good guy. There was no arc at all.Rogue One was good but doesn't stand up as well with repeat viewings...outside of Jyn Erso we pretty much no nothing about the various main characters and most people probably can't even remember most of their names...Solo was actually better overall with some nice character development...they went a bit overboard with giving us too many Easter Eggs to things we didn't need the answers to (how did Solo get his name, his blaster weapon etc) but it still stands up better in the long run then Rogue One