XBOX 360 Elite

thrashfan said:
He also said that he heard from EB games' own MS rep that in about a year they will start releasing HD format 360 titles...that would HAVE to mean a built-in HD drive. That is a load of bs right there. It seriously would be a bad move on MS's part. Talk about ripped off customers.
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M$ stated they have no intentions to build in the HD DVD drive in the console. They like giving the consumers a choice...oh they also said the format has not proved itself only after touting it was better than Blu-Ray.
 
Brownstone said:
If it ... whoever started it deserves to get a fuckin calendar... whats the point of makin an aprils fool joke in march ?

Tho i think its real :)
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Well I saw the printed spread that the OP linked in the April Game Informer (or whatever that EB games magazine is). So for them, this would be the last issue before 1 April.
 
Well I think this about confirms it. These pictures couldn't have been photoshopped, check em out.

EDIT: damn filter took out the word f4nboi from the url, so here is the tiny url of it.

http://tinyurl.com/2bhque
 
Those could be Photoshopped, though it's really unlikely. Someone with real PS skills and a penchant for trickery could do it.

The blur, while also adding the "camera phone authenticity" as if he stole the shots when no one was looking, could also be a ploy to hide the rough edges of the Photoshop work.

Unlikely, but possible. But it wouldn't surprise me if someone finds the source image later, it's crystal clear, and all the 360s are white.
 
zamardii said:
Playstation 2 forced DVD on us, and now look at it.
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Uh, completely different circumstances.

Plus, that was a measly six years ago and DVD didn't require the consumer to purchase additional hardware (a TV in most cases for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD). Blu-Ray and HD-DVD probably won't hit 50% household saturation until 2013-2015 at the earliest. If either one of them do at all.

Meaning that most PS3s running today will be dead and gone by the time people start looking for a dedicated HD movie player.
 
zamardii said:
Playstation 2 forced DVD on us, and now look at it.
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DVD was already an established standard.

The comparisons between the Playstation 2 and Playstation 3 really need to stop. Aside from the name, they have very little in common in regards to demographics and business models.
 
K600 said:
DVD was already an established standard.

The comparisons between the Playstation 2 and Playstation 3 really need to stop. Aside from the name, they have very little in common in regards to demographics and business models.
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Indeed. It's not like the dvd was competing with ...the betamax disc...or something back then. It was dvds as the next gen of media and nothing else, at least nothing that had a shot in hell at being close to mainstream.
 
Technoob said:
Indeed. It's not like the dvd was competing with ...the betamax disc...or something back then. It was dvds as the next gen of media and nothing else, at least nothing that had a shot in hell at being close to mainstream.
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lazerdisc FTW!
 
Without getting this too off topic DVD was NOT an accepted standard when the PS2 launched. PS2 had a lot to do with the success of DVD.
 
Technoob said:
PSP should have used laserdisc instead of UMD. THAT would have been a kickass handheld.
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you do realize that lazerdiscs were the size of an LP, I used to throw them like an actual frisbee, they had alot of weight to them

Without getting this too off topic DVD was NOT an accepted standard when the PS2 launched. PS2 had a lot to do with the success of DVD.
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DVD was the medium of next gen media, just no one wanted to migrate or purchase these as 1) the dvd was expensive, 2) everyone had a shit ton of VHS' already, the only advantage to DVD's then was instant menu, extra's easily accessed and not having to rewind, not a whole lot of good reasons to move

PS2 did help initially helping the sale of a DVD player, the only problem was the first gen play back was like watching sand paper, the PS2 just gave a good reason to actually buy a DVD player
 
VoodooChi|d said:
Without getting this too off topic DVD was NOT an accepted standard when the PS2 launched. PS2 had a lot to do with the success of DVD.
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Sorry, but no. The format was launched in 1997 and made exponential gains each year up to and after the launch of the Playstation 2. The only place where the Playstation 2 had any sort of effect on the sales of DVDs was in Japan; everywhere else had affordable DVD players that consumers would buy instead of the console itself.

DVD Players Sold (By Year):

1997: 315,136
1998: 1,089,261
1999: 4,019,389
2000: 8,498,545

DVD was already the new standard, regardless of how desperate you are to create a link between the PS2/PS3.
 
Rocketpig said:
Nothing screams "rational argument" like this response after being directly proven wrong by the numbers.
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Numbers without a source ... :rolleyes:

Am I the only one who remember that when the PS2 came out it was the cheapest DVD player ? Same with PS3 and Blu-ray.
 
U HAX0R said:
Numbers without a source ... :rolleyes:

Am I the only one who remember that when the PS2 came out it was the cheapest DVD player ? Same with PS3 and Blu-ray.
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Here ya go, found it.

http://swivel.com/data_sets/show/1004201

That was hard. And the PS2 was not the cheapest DVD player when it released. There were others that were below it. Remember, DVD had been out for over three years and players launched with $400 price tags. I know this because I bought one the summer of 97.
 
ampedxc27 said:
Well I think this about confirms it. These pictures couldn't have been photoshopped, check em out.

EDIT: damn filter took out the word f4nboi from the url, so here is the tiny url of it.

http://tinyurl.com/2bhque
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Well, of course they are not photoshopped, the link on engadget says that the picture was of a dev kit.

This is one big joke as far as I am concerned. I can see it now, sometime after the so called release date someone with a dev kit is going to post screenshot to say they have the new "elite"
 
The PS2 launched in November of 2000 for $300.

Here is a link stating that there is a Sharp DVD player that launched in June for $250.

http://www.timefordvd.com/HR_Sharp_DV-710U.html

Face it, you guys are wrong. While the PS2 may have helped DVD sales (and I believe it did, to an extent), DVD was already well on its way to success before the machine even launched.

So, please, stop applying this faulty logic to the PS3. And even if the DVD numbers did back you up, DVD did not require additional hardware that only 20% of the population currently owns, there was no competing format, and most importantly, the PS2 did not launch with a $600 price tag.

Apples and oranges.
 
PS2 was my families first DVD player. Same with most people I knew.

It wasn't DVD vs. another DVD-like product like Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD is today... but many people were still hesitant to buy DVD's and DVD players. The PS2 was one of the cheapest DVD players and it could entertain the kids and undoubtedly helped make DVD the standard it is today.
 
That's great for you, but to say the PS2 was directly responsible for dvd player success is not genuine. As mentioned it was already a growing medium with a head of steam on it. If anything, it presented something that did 'more' then just play movies and put one in the hands of people stuck on their VCR collections without actually needing to use it. If it pioneered anything, it would be putting games on DVD instead of the disk swap deal that started to be common. It took way too long for the PC to catch up. And now that we are starting to get native DVD games for PCs, even some games would benefit from having even more data density from a Blu-Ray or an HD-DVD format. Case in point Flight Simulator X Deluxe comes on 2 DVDs. Who wants to swap disks on an install? Not me...
 
U HAX0R said:
Numbers without a source ... :rolleyes:

Am I the only one who remember that when the PS2 came out it was the cheapest DVD player ? Same with PS3 and Blu-ray.
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I apologize; I assumed you knew how to utilize these little things the internet savvy call "search engines". Regardless, the work was done for you.

Yes, you are the only one who remembers that the PS2 was the cheapest DVD player...because it never was.

VoodooChi|d said:
PS2 was my families first DVD player. Same with most people I knew.

It wasn't DVD vs. another DVD-like product like Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD is today... but many people were still hesitant to buy DVD's and DVD players. The PS2 was one of the cheapest DVD players and it could entertain the kids and undoubtedly helped make DVD the standard it is today.
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You've been proven wrong by two different people with two different sources that showed the exact same information. Just stop. It wasn't the cheapest, it wasn't the best, and it wasn't the platform through which DVD sales skyrocketed.
 
What internal differences/improvements have been made??If its the same system(which I think is analog out only) with HDMI tacked on then whats the big deal??If so I expect and HDMI cable for the OG 360.Why should I shell out $500 for an HDMI connector and NO Im not impressed with the 120gb HD as Ive yet to fill up the 20gb I have now..
 
Seriously DVD's were set to be successful way before PS2 came out. Pretty much all the non-budget retail computer systems at the time included DVD-Rom and this was before the PS2 came out. Today barely any retail computer systems come with a Blu-ray or HD-DVD drive.
 
I'll be sticking with my Premium system, for now. The only reason I'd really want/need the Elite, is if I got a nice TV with HDMI. Right now my Xbox 360 is hooked up to my 22 inch widescreen monitor, via VGA. Works fine for me at this point.
 
There were $100 DVD players at that time. I wasn't so much of a PS2 friek as I was an XBox I l<3 that thing. However this new Junkbox is a waste of material IMO. The numbers are showing I'm not in the minority. HOw long can MSFT back a "losing" system" 4 ever with all tha cash they have. PS3 is a joke as well with the prices. Wii is cheap but is it a gimmick? We'll all see by Xmas who the "winning" console(s) is/are.
 
MC FLMJIG said:
However this new Junkbox is a waste of material IMO. The numbers are showing I'm not in the minority.
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*LOL* What numbers are these? The 10+ million people who have an Xbox 360, compared to the 5-6 million Wii owners, and the 1-2 million PS3 users?
 
Let's be real. Thos numbers are tiny compared to how consoles have sold the last 2 "wars" we had. Wii has done over half in less than half the time (there was also a lack of supply) vs msft. PS3.. whatever. Too pricey. I think that's the biggest problem with consoles today. Yea they are strong and are multi machines but who cares? Ps1 and 2 did well because they did 1 (okay 2 on the ps2) well. 10mil is nada considering it's been out a year and a half and the weiner has been out less than 6 months.
 
MC FLMJIG said:
Let's be real. Thos numbers are tiny compared to how consoles have sold the last 2 "wars" we had.
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Well find the numbers that compare original Xbox sales, after 1 year and some odd months, to that of the Xbox 360. The same goes with the PS3 vs the PS2 at this stage, and of course the Wii and the GameCube.... because OBVIOUSLY the last two generations of systems have sold more, to date.
 
The Xbox was a flop but I <3 it. I hated msft for cutting it's life short but whatever. Gamecube is another bad example. A just as bad flop. Ps2 was selling off the shelves throughout it's entire lifecycle. Hey, it was even the most selling this XMAS! Ps1 I dunno but I'm sure it sold very well vs all 3 current systems.

Junkbox 360
POS3
and the weiner

:D

I left consoles came to the PC and from the looks of it don't think I'm going back!
 
The only thing that sell console is exclusive games, that why the ps2 did very well compare to the other three consoles. You can't argue that the price is a factor when you look at the GameCube which is the cheapest out of the three and sold the least.
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I hope M$ (though I doubt) will have an upgrade option so that we can give them our console to get an upgrade and pay the difference or whatever.
 
I'm disappointed with the price and the lack of a 65nm chip. Since I don't really need the 120GB drive as I plan on streaming most of the video off of another computer and I don't have an HDTV yet, I was really only hoping to see a 360 that was cooler and quieter.

Funny though, it did give Sony's marketing department an opportunity to open their stupid pie holes again . . .

from http://kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360-elite/feature-microsoft-gets-elite-247496.php
“The PlayStation 3 is the only elite gaming system on the market. Microsoft is trying to catch up to us at this point. Beyond the benefits of HDMI and a hard drive offered on every PS3 we make, we also provide game developers and consumers the huge capacity of Blu-ray disc, Wi-Fi, free online gameplay, wireless motion sensing controller and the power of Cell,” said Peter Dille
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Come on Sony . . . only Elite gaming system on the market? These statements are getting really old. It almost makes me not ever want to by a PS3 just because I wouldn't want any of my money towards the paychecks of these idiots.
 
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