Well if the premium is $400 and this new one is limited edition at first then it does. You will have those buying it and saying its a good deal, when its not IMO.
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Well if the premium is $400 and this new one is limited edition at first then it does. You will have those buying it and saying its a good deal, when its not IMO.
Well, I guess since its pretty close to confirmed that those are the prices, I'm a bit disappointed. I have been waiting to buy a newer quieter 360. $400 is over what I want to pay for a system as it is but I was willing to stretch it for a 360. I'll be waiting till the new features make down to the $400 level. One of my friends has a 360 and after playing Dead Rising and seeing the other games, I really want one. Oh well, just going to have to be patient.
I think they may actually stick with that price after thinking about it for a while, because obviously there are going to be people (read: morons) who rush out and buy the elites simply for the black color and to have the first dose of HDMI and the bigger hard drive. And if they actually are going to make a limited amount of them, then the wait for those things to be included in the premiums shouldnt be that bad. Hell, summer is fast approaching anyway, time to go out and do things, I think you and others will be able to manage the wait
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This cant e right, wasnt ms slating sony for the high price of the ps3 and now they go and do the same?
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Xbox Premium = $400
Wifi adapter = $100
HDDVD drive = $200
total = $700
PS3 = $600
People who complain the PS3 is overpriced = Priceless
Wifi adapter = $100
HDDVD drive = $200
total = $700
PS3 = $600
People who complain the PS3 is overpriced = Priceless
Oh, give it up. You have to buy all those things with the PS3.
I could have sworn that when I bought my 360, it was $400. I don't remember there being a Microsoft rep in Target forcing me to spend $300 extra for crap I don't need or want.
Nasty_Savage
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Been sitting on the fence waiting for something like this. I like the fact that it runs cooler, but I would need to see it first. Hopefully it WILL have the 65nm fab...disappointing it doesn't have the built in HD drive...
microsoft had already previously stated they did not want to include a feature that could be outdated, ie HD-DVDs fail and the format switches to BD. i still can't believe the number of people that really thought the drive would be included.
Yeah, pretty odd that people still believe that. MS has gone out of their way to state that they won't participate in this format war by putting that drive in a 360.
Besides, it's a bad business move. They make money from everything downloaded from XBL. Why would they want to give people the ability to go and rent a HD movie from somewhere else?
Thats correct. Its a choice in the matter. For example me: I need a wireless connection so there goes a Wifi adapter. I use my 360 as a dvd player and would like to watch hi def movies. There goes the money for the add on.
Honestly, it doesn't matter. To each their own.
zero002021
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I agree with Rocketpig, give it up. I have both the Xbox 360 and a PS3 and even though I have Wi-Fi at home, I don't use it for gaming. I run a wired connection. The wireless adapter is not a required purchase. The same thing goes for the HD DVD drive. Not everybody wants to jump into the HD format war. Many are waiting for either HD DVD or Blu-Ray to win before they jump in. Sony is making consumers pay for options that may not want. Oh, and by your logic, the PS3 should cost closer to $700, because it doesn't come with high-definition capable cables or a headset, both of which are included with the Xbox 360.
Xbox 360 = $400
PS3 = $600
End of discussion. Thank you, and have a nice day.
Exactly. I have a network jack on every wall in the house so no need for a wireless bridge. I don't have an HDTV yet so having an HD format disc player doesn't do anything for me. So, after the unit price, XBL is my only extra cost besides games.
You forgot to mention:
-Supports the leading High definition format Blue Ray
-Hard Drive that's over double the size of the xbox360.
-The smaller form factor once you include the xbox360 + power brick + HD optical drive.
-The ability to run linux out of the box. (mythTV and mplayer)
-HDMI Included.
-Ability to upgrade Hard drive with any 2.5 sata drive on the market. (no proprietary overpriced bs)
-Can interface with any webcam that uses the USB standard for video. (no overpriced proprietary bs)
- Four Usb 2.0 ports
- Supports up to 7 controllers over Bluetooth simultaneously.
-Built-in memory card reader
to each his own. Just try not to be a bunch of fangirls about it.
No HDTV - Don't need the HD player (even if I did, I wouldn't use a video game system as the primary player of movies. On video game systems, it seems to be the best way to kill a drive)
Wireless - Walls setup with network jacks, don't need wireless
Formfactor - . . . negligable importance
Ability to run Linux - % of people that actually do this? Care?
HDMI - Don't need it right now. Newer versions look like they'll be including it
Hard Drive - yea, MS is being kinda silly with that restriction
Use of webcam - ? I guess this is a feature that someone cares about. Someone likes showing the rest of the gaming world the boxer shorts they are wearing while their playing on the couch.
4 USB ports - for? Is this where I connect the Hello Kitty vibrator?
7 wireless controllers - I'm waiting for all those top shelf, 7 player games. Really, I am, someone tell me where there is one so I can spend $250+ on controllers to play that one game. In fact, while your at it, name for me how many games support over 4 players on any console . . . ever.
Built in Memory card reader - so I can show off all those family photos that I keeps stored on flash memory?
Sorry, couldnt resist.
But you seemed to have forgotten:
- not nearly as many quality games as the 360
Like I have said before, I wasn't going to wait for this new Xbox 360 package, if it is indeed coming out. I don't need HDMI, I can live with a 20 gig hard drive for now, and the black color is no big deal. If I can buy a larger hard drive serperately, sometime down the road, perhaps I will. As of now I'm just enjoying the hell out of my system.
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Out of curiosity, what is the percentage of 360 users that still have thier launch units or have had a unit more then 6 months without issues?
But you seemed to have forgotten:
- not nearly as many quality games as the 360
Like I have said before, I wasn't going to wait for this new Xbox 360 package, if it is indeed coming out. I don't need HDMI, I can live with a 20 gig hard drive for now, and the black color is no big deal. If I can buy a larger hard drive serperately, sometime down the road, perhaps I will. As of now I'm just enjoying the hell out of my system.
Well duh the ps3 dosen't has that much quality games as the 360 the reason why is that the game developers haven't fully utilize the blu ray and the ps3 has not been out even for an year yet. In an year the ps3 games will be much much better. Remember when the 360 came out and there were barely any quality games? sheesh 360 fan boys..
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You cannot use the fact that the 360 was out a year early to let developers off. All that means is that the devs has an extra year for their launch games...
Sorry, but Sony went out of their way to spread misinformation about the Xbox 360 ("Xbox 1.5, remember?"). They said that the PS3 would be a generational leap beyond the 360 right out of the gate, didn't deliver, and now they're eating truckloads of crow.
zero002021
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I personally know 3 or 4 people with either launch Xbox 360s, or systems purchased shortly after, who still have had no problems *knock on wood for all of them*
A) I'm not an 360 fan boy. I do have an Xbox 360, which I just got this past Friday, but I prefer to play games, not systems.
B) My comments are valid because you went off and listed all these superior features the PS3 has over the Xbox 360, to justify the price. But what I'm saying is that for the price of the 360, which is currently less then the PS3, right now you have an arguably stronger lineup of great games, right now. Lets face it... these are videogame systems first and foremost, no-matter who tries to convince you these are high-tech computers, or media center devices, that just so happen to play games.
Yes, yes, after the same ammount of months after the launch of the Xbox 360, there wasn't the titles we have now... but this isn't a year ago. This is now, and for 400 bucks (for the Premium), or even whatever the Elite system will cost you, you have an arguably stronger lineup of games, including former Playstation staples. There is nobody walking into a store, looking to get one of the two consoles, but compares only the titles that launched or were released soon after the Xbox 360 launch, to the current crop of PS3 titles, because it would be some sort of fair comparision. You look at the whole gamut of titles.
Please....
If you bought an Xbox 360 you'd probably realize what you just typed was pretty much garbage. Creepingdeath1977
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I honestly love them both but $500.00 for a black 360 with a bigger hard drive?
I don't think so.
Just take your 360 apart and paint it black and buy the carbon fiber faceplate and your done.
Minus the bigger hard drive of coarse.
I don't think so.
Just take your 360 apart and paint it black and buy the carbon fiber faceplate and your done.
Minus the bigger hard drive of coarse.
I don't know about percentage but I've only had mine 7 months and am on my second. First one wouldn't eject disks properly and hardly ever read a disk first time.
Out of about 10 guys in my department with 360's 3 of us have have had replacements.
Hats off to MS for the warranty replacements though, not a trouble getting a replacement when you need it.
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so you can get black controllers and battery packs? Ill have to get one of those.
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Eh... I was originally planning on getting the black 360, but now that all the details are out, and the pix are out... I don't think I want one.
$479 for a paint job (which is really ugly after looking at the PS3's take on black, IMO) and a larger hard drive (which I won't be using for anything other than demos.... I use my PS3 to view movies and the like)? ...and the best part:still no wi-fi????
I'm good.
Looks like I'm going to wait for a black Wii, now...
$479 for a paint job (which is really ugly after looking at the PS3's take on black, IMO) and a larger hard drive (which I won't be using for anything other than demos.... I use my PS3 to view movies and the like)? ...and the best part:still no wi-fi????
I'm good.
Looks like I'm going to wait for a black Wii, now...
Don't know about anyone else but I call shens on those pictures.
All of them look like photochops tbh
Off course! That's their plan to make even more money!
Yeah, some don't look real. We'll have to wait and see.
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Make the current premium core at 299 with the update architecure so it generates less heat... and im sold
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Could this be GI's April Fool's Joke?
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If it ... whoever started it deserves to get a fuckin calendar... whats the point of makin an aprils fool joke in march ?
Tho i think its real
Tho i think its real
I really don't see the advantage in the HDMI port...I thought we can already view the games in HD?
"Oh...oh...but this will be true HD" says the guy in EB games.
He also said that he heard from EB games' own MS rep that in about a year they will start releasing HD format 360 titles...that would HAVE to mean a built-in HD drive. That is a load of bs right there. It seriously would be a bad move on MS's part. Talk about ripped off customers.
But anyways, I finally saved up enough money to buy a Premium, but I think i'll wait till most of this hype is over for me to make my jump if the price cut is really going to happen.
"Oh...oh...but this will be true HD" says the guy in EB games.
He also said that he heard from EB games' own MS rep that in about a year they will start releasing HD format 360 titles...that would HAVE to mean a built-in HD drive. That is a load of bs right there. It seriously would be a bad move on MS's part. Talk about ripped off customers.
But anyways, I finally saved up enough money to buy a Premium, but I think i'll wait till most of this hype is over for me to make my jump if the price cut is really going to happen.
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HDMI is for people without a VGA connection on their TV,
for example,
Sharp AQUOS 46" 1080. 2 components. 2 HDMI.
XBOX360 with HD-DVD Add-ON,
with component connection, you only get 1080i in movies.
for example,
Sharp AQUOS 46" 1080. 2 components. 2 HDMI.
XBOX360 with HD-DVD Add-ON,
with component connection, you only get 1080i in movies.