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It really doesn't matter; both formats will include the technology in their respective players.tosp said:
So...Question:
Who is it up to to include the image restraint token on HD-DVD's again?
Answer:The same folks who decide wether it will be implemented on Blu-Ray discs-the studios.
Buddy, you can search just as well as I can. Honestly, there's no "official" statement on this. Sony has said that their studios won't use the ICT until there's more "HDMI market penetration", and many studios followed suit by announcing the same thing. So far, no movies released on HD-DVD discs have had the ICT present on the discs, and it's agreeable that no first gen Blu-Ray discs will use it either. No one knows how long they will keep ICT at bay, but many industry insiders/media reporters/analysts are fairly confident that we won't see the ICT in effect until around 2010.tosp said:
And all of the studios would be well-off keeping to that. For their sake.
tosp said:
The scuttlebutt is that there was a "backroom" gentleman's agreement amongst all but one studio that they would not use the ICT for several years (supposedly 2010/2011, depending on who reports it). That one studio is Warner and they're [supposedly] considering using the ICT on a selective basis, perhaps for their bigger movies (if they go through with this plan, I would predict the first ICT movie could be Superman Returns which is supposed to be released on all formats this holiday season).
The bottom line is that all folks have on which to hang their hats is trust in movie studios not to implement this copy protection method. Personally, it wouldn't surprise me to see every disc with ICT enabled as early as next year, considering the lobbying the MPAA has done to cram this technology through. Frankly, I've been shocked lately by the amount of cockeyed optimism floating on the Interweb regarding this matter.
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They'll release a few discs with ICT, find that their sales dip, and ditch it.
PikachuMan said:
All this copy protection crap wouldn't be necessary if there wern't so many self centered people who think it's okay to bootleg and pirate movies. Don't blame them for coming up with ways to protect their products, when this is a cause and effect situation. If people in this world were more honest(that's a laugh), this type of stuff wouldn't be needed. However, it sounds like they've already found ways around the copy protection already for both B-ray and HD-DVD.
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junehhan said:
That doesn't matter. Copy protection just has to make things impractical, not impossible.
Zinn said:
They just PWNED themselves.
Whats really funny is that the poster of the transcript got banned for some reason.
I guess Sony's online service will not be "online" from day one. Oh, and Sony says that "The PS3 is a computer" soooo many times, it makes me sick
junehhan said:
This is such a cop-out argument though; copy protection is broken daily. This sort of shit only hurts honest consumers.
I remember reading forums inhabited by code-crackers and watching as they posted screenshots of their experience in Half-Life 2 while my HL2 validation took hours upon hours to finish. It was ridiculous.
not a very reliable source but here's a 360 board with a HDMI port
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEVkFZZpFkDjNuJhIR.php
-Foz
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEVkFZZpFkDjNuJhIR.php
-Foz
K600 said:
My friend, why don't you develop a good copy protection mechanism that can be employed? These guys are trying their best to come up with ways to protect their content while minimizing their impact on honest consumers. However, they have the draw the line somewhere, especially when you have the two biggest countries in the world who don't give a flying fuck about the intellectual properties of others.You also got a pretty big population of people here in America too with that same type of mentality. Heck, all I have to do is just walk two blocks from my house to see ghetto ass kids selling bootlegs on the corner. It's amazing how these people try to justify pirating the intellectual property of others, so why not cut these companies a break for trying to justify ways for protecting their content? Copy protection as you stated is broken daily. I agree with you 100% on that. However, you have to keep trying. Keep in mind that movies happen to be one of the biggest exports out of the USA into other countries. Unchecked and rampant pirating in these BS 3rd and 4th world countries are only going to harm one of our biggest sources of revenue.
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junehhan said:
Just to say one thing... I'm not disagreeing with you on people bootlegging movies, it's a bad thing. But... you see any of these guys going poor and hungry from lack of profits? Please.
Psychotext said:
I understand your point, as I know what you mean. My view though, is that no matter how much money they are making, it's their property. Just because these companies are mega-wealthy, still IMHO doesn't mean they don't have the right to protect what belongs to them. I know my opinion might be unpopular, but that's just how I see it.
junehhan said:
Another bullshit argument. I can't do it so it must not be possible, right
I couldn't make an SUV in the 80's. Does that mean that it was impossible to improve upon them?
junehhan said:
Bullshit. Copy protection is a waste. It will be broken. Convulted copy-protection schemes like this do far more damage in the end anyways; not only are they fucking honest consumers, but they're pushing some people so hard that they're making pirates out of people who probably wouldn't have bothered otherwise. I know for a fact that copy protection schemes like Starforce have produced many, many pirates.
junehhan said:
Because I'm not them? I don't give a shit about them; I care about the fact that honest consumers are progressively getting fucked over harder and harder without making any sort of measurable impact on piracy.
Why in the Hell should I care about these poor, poor millionaires who are making more convulted schemes that put a bigger strain on me, the paying consumer?
If a bank is robbed and the customers see it, should they be punished for the robbery?
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Perhaps you should get into the industry of making games, movies, et al, so that you'd understand a bit better why publishers do what they do. Until you do, you will continue with that attitude. I'm not saying I agree with it all, though I can certainly see both sides of the coin.
Perhaps you should get into the industry of making games, movies, et al, so that you'd understand a bit better why publishers do what they do. Until you do, you will continue with that attitude. I'm not saying I agree with it all, though I can certainly see both sides of the coin.
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