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x800xt or 7600gt?
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The 7600GT is faster than both an x850xt and an x1800GTO in most situations.
Yeah, actually, the X1800GTO does beat the 7600GT (only slightly). And the X850XT is almost equal in terms of performance with the 7600GT, with the X850XT PE being slightly better.
Considering the X800XT or 7600GT, though... they are really similar. I would probably venture to say the 7600GT though since it seems to be more competitive with the X850XT.
And if I see another link to GPU Review, I'm going to go crazy...
Considering the X800XT or 7600GT, though... they are really similar. I would probably venture to say the 7600GT though since it seems to be more competitive with the X850XT.
And if I see another link to GPU Review, I'm going to go crazy...
Here is an interesting review of agp cards. Its main comparison from my point of view was the 7800GS vs the 7600GT in those benchmarks. Nearly dead even is how I read those results. Each had slight edges over the other here and there. I was quite surprised how well the 7600GT is at 1600x1200 with moderate AA and AF. Factoring price into the equation the 7800GS looks even less attractive. Raw horsepower edge still has to go to the x850xt IMO but the 7600GT is not a bad mid range entry for the agp crowd with SM3.0 and DX9C which x850xt doesn't have.
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i vote 7600gt also, its basically on par with the x800xt but runs cooler and has newer features such as sm3.0 and hdr
I would say it would depend entirely on what games you play...
Games based on Doom Engine... 7600GT FTW...
Oblivion, Battlefield, Half Life... 800XT FTW
Everything else kind of goes back and forth....
I heard it through the grapevine 800XT AGP doesn't overclock as well... So I would probably go with 7600GT in that situation if the cost is same...
Games based on Doom Engine... 7600GT FTW...
Oblivion, Battlefield, Half Life... 800XT FTW
Everything else kind of goes back and forth....
I heard it through the grapevine 800XT AGP doesn't overclock as well... So I would probably go with 7600GT in that situation if the cost is same...
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x800 cards overclock very well from what I have seen, AGP or PCI-E.Marvelous said:
Mine was awesome, but it's an R480.
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I've seen quite a few x800 cards at 600/630~ clocks, not sure what they did.. but just saying.PWMK2 said:
I'd get the 7600GT, it runs on half the power of most other cards and can overclock a lot (especially with a volt mod), plus you get SM3.0 support. Performence is so close between them that the other benefits make the 7600GT worth it. My freind bought a VF900 and took off the fan, the card stayed very cool with only passive cooling.
Borgschulze said:
I haven't seen too many... Most of them clock to 850xt speeds... While the 850xt overclocks 850xtpe speeds...
firewolf said:
Even if 7600GT overclocks good on the core it's useless as it's not bound by fillrate... The only thing with 7600GT though is the memory... 128bit... You still have to overclock twice as hard as 256bit memory controllers to match...
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7600gt
Most of the time the x850xt and the 7600gt are neck and neck. If the x850xt is cheaper it wins in my book.
x800xt is slower than the 7600gt. I'd opt for an x850xt. I don't see any reason to buy an x800xt over either the x850xt or the 7600gt unless it was really cheap (sub $80 prices). Otherwise, spend $100 AR on the x850xt or ~$145 AR on the 7600gt.
Most of the time the x850xt and the 7600gt are neck and neck. If the x850xt is cheaper it wins in my book.
x800xt is slower than the 7600gt. I'd opt for an x850xt. I don't see any reason to buy an x800xt over either the x850xt or the 7600gt unless it was really cheap (sub $80 prices). Otherwise, spend $100 AR on the x850xt or ~$145 AR on the 7600gt.
Domini said:
Not true... x8xx series do quite well in oblivion...
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6147127/p-6.html
You know x800 cards have 16 pixel shaders while 7600GT has 12....
x1800xt is the same as x800... while 1900xt has 48...
Domini said:
Did I say say anything is better... Fact is 7600gt has less shaders than the x800... Pointing it out for the future... All cards have their strengths and weakness... Notably the 7600gt has a big weakness.. MEMORY BANDWIDTH...
ANd your point? The #'s are there... Click the link... and you will see x850xt destroy 7600gt in oblivion... an 800xl keeps up with 7600GT...
Oblivion is more of bandwidth hog than anything else...
Due to improvements in the architecture, the 7600GT performs about the same as an X800XT, even with 12 pipelines as opposed to 16 on the XT. However, the 7600GT supports Shader Model 3 and has a better featureset, which makes it a better card since you can enable more advanced graphical features.
Basically, go with the 7600GT.
Basically, go with the 7600GT.
GonzoP said:
Games are all different... Some of them are fillrate and memory bandwidth hogs... While some of them Pixel shader intensive.... But the most important is fillrate to match the bandwidth that it needs... Fact is game need bandwidth to play... Without it you can't draw the screen how many shaders you have or efficient it is... That is why even a 2 year old 850xt is keep up with the newer gen cards...
Sure 7600GT is efficient has all the pizzaz like the big brother 7900gt and is.. very efficient in AA and Aniso... But it's still a crippled card... about 60% less memory bandwidth than these 256bit compareable cards...
When you have lot of fill rate and low memory bandwidth the games itself spikes in frames in different sections of the game... Say you run a benchmark... Lot of fillrate with okay amount of memory will give you high frames in some sections where there isn't lot of things going on.... But when you run into a section with so much things going on than that's where the 7600GT will choke in higher resolutions... Lower resolutions it will not since it has enough bandwidth to cover the game...
I guess only time will tell but it's not going to change how things are run anytime soon... Unless we move to tile based technology like PowerVR..
GonzoP said:Solid point there
As you say though for those of us not sporting 20"+ monitors and chugging away at a lowly 1280x1024 res we can still get by nicely with cards such as these; probably even once Crysis and UT2K7 are out.
Yup, this is all part of my dastardly plan to play Crysis on an AGP card...
GonzoP said:And I'm sure you will too
Yup, yup, yup. Can't wait until it comes out.
MAYBE I can get it to run at 12x10... but you're right, I'll probably have to lower my res down to 10x76...Point is, the X800XTs/X850XTs are turning about to be today's 9800PRO. Still great cards, all things considered.