It's subjective, but I've found Launchpad to be better for opening apps than the applications folder in Stacks, or going to the Finder. And it's debatable whether it's faster than searching in Spotlight.
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I was wanting to pick up a new iMac. Looks like that's not going to happen. The Retina 15" MBP had me thinking. One of those and a 27" monitor would be a nice combination... Same power as the iMac, plus portability. I could sell my existing MBP to make up the difference.
...Then I noticed that they changed the power adapter. God damnit. I can only asume that the magsafe adapter on the current monitors won't work on the new MBPs.
I wanted to give you money, Apple... Really, I did. You came SO close!
...Then I noticed that they changed the power adapter. God damnit. I can only asume that the magsafe adapter on the current monitors won't work on the new MBPs.
I wanted to give you money, Apple... Really, I did. You came SO close!
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yeah, passbook sounds like it could be really useful. The siri upgrades sound pretty decent as well.
All in all though, I must say that I'm not terribly impressed with what they've shown for iOS. I was hoping for more. I'm sure that they'll announce more features specific to the new iPhone this fall.
The retina MacBook Pro says it supports two external 1440p displays, so I think maybe it's compatible? I don't know.
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Not really debatable. User familiarity being equal, a keyboard will always beat a mouse or touchpad in speed.
Take away user familiarity (someone like my grandma who clicks everything including scroll bar arrows), and yeah sure something with huge shiny clicky buttons like Launchpad will pull ahead.
Ehh I suppose Spotlight is slightly faster, but it's less effort to use Launchpad imo. I use it in place of Spotlight.
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What shortcuts have they gotten rid of, specifically?
When you build to order the new Pro, you have the option of paying $9.99 for a magsafe to magsafe2 adaptor so that it'll work with the current monitors.
The new thunderbolt to ethernet adaptor is pretty cool too, and it seems to be the same price as the old usb to ethernet one.
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They haven't gotten rid of anything existing yet.
They just aren't improving anything in that area, and I fully expect shortcuts and keyboard-centric navigation to get worse or completely abandoned as they phase out their current generation of apps and replace them with more hybrid MacOS/iOS versions.
It is obvious that Apple is pushing with all the might they have to kill off the keyboard/mouse and move everyone to gesture-centric multitouch interfaces, and unfortunately even Microsoft has caught the bug too. I don't know who these morons think is going to create all the content that their gadgets consume.
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In that case, where would you like to see shortcuts where there aren't any currently?
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Disappointed. No new Mac Mini equals nothing new for me 
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.Maybe in a couple of months. Likely when the iMac gets updated.Disappointed. No new Mac Mini equals nothing new for me
I'd say there are plenty of people creating content. Magazines and newspapers are all moving to digital, and there are plenty of games for these platforms.
They've certainly moved towards gestures and away from shortcuts, but really, how many more shortcuts can you add? Not to mention the fact that you can ADD YOUR OWN for any menu item in an application
which is something I haven't seen any other platform do natively.But what is wrong with moving towards gestures as a control scheme? It wasn't too long ago that we needed to click on the arrows to scroll a webpage, then we got the scroll wheel, and now we have trackpad gestures to scroll a page. From what I've seen, nobody, including apple, has removed functionality like this, but only improved it. Apple-tab still works, but now there are gestures to open up Mission Control and Expose as well to switch windows or programs.
So I guess I'm just curious exactly what you mean, because since I switched to an Apple machine, my workflow has become much more streamlined and thus, faster, because of the shortcuts they offer, including customization options, and gestures would be even better (except my MBP is one generation before the multi-touch pad).
And they are moving their interfaces towards a more unified look at feel, but they haven't scarified usability, and they won't. Usability is one of their BIGGEST deciding factors when creating anything. That's not to say they won't do things like simplify Final Cut Pro X to prosumer levels at best, but they didn't do anything to make it any less usable on a PC platform to show bias towards the touch interfaces.
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I get the impression that you don't understand how resolution scaling works on a fixed-pixel display, so I'll try to explain. Basically, you're right in most cases. If you take a 1920x1080 monitor and try to make a game run at 1280x720, then you will get some blurriness. This is because the GPU needs to determine how to best fit the image into the screen (or the scalar can do this). It won't look as sharp as a native 720p display of the same size.
However, if we were to have a monitor with a resolution of 5120x2880, as some are requesting for a 27" "retina" display, you can run several native resolutions. You would lose no quality if you ran at 2560x1440 or 1280x720. They would look the same as any other 27" screen of that native resolution. Yes, obviously 720p would look worse than 2560x1440.
The reason this works is that these are exact multiples of the native resolution. That's what I'd love to see a 3840x2160 27" monitor. It would be perfect for desktop real-estate while running games natively at 1080p. This would be a perfect compromise for someone who wants a sharper monitor for daily use, but doesn't want the GPU horsepower to run games at 2560x1440 or higher.
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I was looking at getting a new one. Found out about the magsafe converter, and was basically sold. Added it to cart. Added a monitor. Added the adapter. Went to check out...baseline retina display pro is $2000 at education pricing. Wish I needed a new comp
...Wait a second, 7-10 days lead time now? I think I'll wait and just pick one up in the store in a few days instead.
I'm thinking of doing the exact same thing, craigslist the MBA.
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I really wish they had a matte screen version. That glossy screen is the bane of my 13" MBP. I don't like having to carry an extra adapter either (DVI to a professional monitor and I would need one for ethernet.)
Maybe next year with Haswell and whatever AMD/NVidia cook up then. For now I see no reason for that display honestly. I have the new iPad and putting it against my friends iPad2 it's a subtle difference to me. The resolution is fine on my MBP. The major factor for that machine for me would be if it's weight.
Maybe next year with Haswell and whatever AMD/NVidia cook up then. For now I see no reason for that display honestly. I have the new iPad and putting it against my friends iPad2 it's a subtle difference to me. The resolution is fine on my MBP. The major factor for that machine for me would be if it's weight.
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So will the next gen retina MacBook Pro run Diablo 3 with any authority? More resolution is nice, but that can hurt game performance too.
I totally agree. This was the major feature I was looking forward to but now it won't work on my late 2010 MBP. WTF Apple?
And don't let people tell you that AirParrot is a good alternative. It's works ok with video but it doesn't pass through audio so it's worthless for me. So lame.
There could be some hardware requirement related to WiFi or similar for good performance with AirPlay -- I tried it on my 2011 iMac months ago and it worked brilliantly.
It should run fine at 1/4 native resolution. I have a 650m and can run at 1600x900 with everything maxed bumping up against my 60fps vsync. With that said the game still feels like it stutters due to nvidia's lack of drivers for mobile Kepler chips. The 650m is a great chip, it just needs some driver support on the windows side.
You probably have to wait until the next refresh for the 13" to get the Retina treatment.
Anyway as for the new Retina MBP the price is surprisingly reasonable. Thinking about getting one even though I probably don't use my current MBP enough to justify it :S.
Anyway as for the new Retina MBP the price is surprisingly reasonable. Thinking about getting one even though I probably don't use my current MBP enough to justify it :S.
Strangely enough, I can count on one hand the times I've used it..
Was hoping for a 15" MBA, am tired of lugging my 15" MBP around. Waiting for the new Retina ones to show up in stores so I can compare the weight side by side. Will either bite the bullet and get the 4.45(?) lb 15" or wait for a 13" Retina/
The new MBP 15" normal has 77.5watt-hour battery
The new MBP 15" Retina has 95 watt-hour battery
The new MBP 13" Normal has 63.5 watt-hour battery
To activate Retina on 13" requires additional battery capacity that might be tough on current 13" design, space and heat dissipation.
The new MBP 15" Retina has 95 watt-hour battery
The new MBP 13" Normal has 63.5 watt-hour battery
To activate Retina on 13" requires additional battery capacity that might be tough on current 13" design, space and heat dissipation.
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This is where my problem comes in. I don't really care about text smoothness or general usage sharpness. Since the desktop will still have the usable space of a 1440*900 screen (since its scaling and not true pixel for pixel usage) I would at least want the resolution were it counts for me most, gaming. But it doesn't seem like the 650m would handle this in a meaningful way. Otherwise I just see it as a bit of a let down. Going from a 1920*1080 usable environment to a 1440*900 would be bleh in my book and running games at a scaled down 1440*900, seems like a waste. I'd feather just have a 1440*900 screen and the extra change.
I just really wanted a retina external monitor or at least iMac to use as a pass through monitor...
iJelly.
Actually, it does. Get the latest version (even slightly outdated versions that do audio had a bug that made it really quiet. Newest version fixed it.)
But either way it wasn't good enough to send Hulu or the like up on my TV, just great for using it as a second display. Maybe my wifi wasn't fast enough though. The iPad does it much better, even over wifi, since I think it actually sends the stream to the ATV to be decoded and played rather than sending an image of the screen+audio. I Imagine ML mirroring will do something similar with QuickTime movies etc.
Uhmmm what's your address? And when can I expect it to be delivered. I uhhhh....wanna come give you a present.
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I think what irks me most about the new MBPR's is that the RAM is soldered to the board so you can't upgrade it it yourself or replace a defective SO-DIMM when a stick goes bad outside of warranty. I guess Apple wants to now force us to pay for their overpriced RAM upgrades.
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If it's soldered directly to the board, I doubt Apple will replace/upgrade it either (outside of swapping out the board). I'm sure shops and the DIY community will figure out a cheap(er) way to get it done.
I wonder if it's due to packaging constraints. IIRC, it's only a hair thicker than the MBA
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http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook...1BI/ref=sr_tr_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339510281&sr=8-1
2.6GHz model MBPR is up on Amazon. I'd put in an order now if I wasn't having to think about whether I'd want additional RAM. It just sucks that it is no longer a cheap upgrade to max out the RAM in one.
2.6GHz model MBPR is up on Amazon. I'd put in an order now if I wasn't having to think about whether I'd want additional RAM. It just sucks that it is no longer a cheap upgrade to max out the RAM in one.
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I ordered the same setup and I also have the same MBA you do! LOL I just sold my air to my boss at work.