Wired Hates Far Cry 5 - No One Cares

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I played the game through the first few hours. Got overwhelmed by the UBIFICATION of the entire game and went back and played Warframe.

Jim Sterling does a damn good review and write up of FC5.
 

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I will give to you that FC2 perhaps had multiplayer but you are literally the only person i've ever heard of who bought a Far Cry game for the multiplayer. You did also say you loved Far Cry (the original) which had no multiplayer, and for anyone else wanting multiplayer especially a team deathmatch style multiplayer they would look elsewhere. I have never even thought of touching Far Cry multiplayer.


From comments is sounds like you've not really played Far Cry or Far Cry 2?

Multiplayer featured three different modes: Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, and 'Assault' - An attack/defend mode where one team must guard three bases and the other must capture them. Ubisoft closed the online servers in October 2015.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry_(video_game)#Multiplayer


here's bit of Far Cry Multiplayer here:

 
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From comments is sounds like you've not really played Far Cry or Far Cry 2?

Multiplayer featured three different modes: Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, and 'Assault' - An attack/defend mode where one team must guard three bases and the other must capture them. Ubisoft closed the online servers in October 2015.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry_(video_game)#Multiplayer


No he is right, far cry was/is primarily a single player game. I never touched the bolted on multiplayer, but might do co-op in 5.
 

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I played the game through the first few hours. Got overwhelmed by the UBIFICATION of the entire game and went back and played Warframe.

Jim Sterling does a damn good review and write up of FC5.

I bought it after seeing Jim Sterlings review. I figured I have not played many Ubi games, and only the original Far Cry, so if Far Cry 5 did the whole Ubisoft thing well - great since I've not been burned out on it.
 

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I really don't understand why people can't just enjoy things for what they are.

Tell me about it. My friend and I got this game with the intention of playing co-op. We both lead busy lives (especially this time of year) so the prospect is to just beat people to death with shovels or maybe to catch fish for an hour or two here and there. It's not complicated. The world in the game is beautiful, it's fun just to mess around, isn't that the point of a sandbox game? I've been driven further and further away from the genre because it seems to be losing its roots, so when we finally get a game that sticks to what makes them great it's..."empty"? At what point did it become a requirement for games to be political, ideological, or something more than entertainment? I get that gaming can be art - plenty of games demonstrate that - but not every movie has to be Citizen Kane.

My friend happens to be a born-again Christian and I haven't been a church regular in over twenty years. We both enjoy the game and its context. He's conservative, I'm more moderate, we both love the characters and the premise. We don't sit there and wonder why the game isn't trans-inclusive, we don't contemplate how these nutjobs are anti-Trump while being religious, we don't concern ourselves with the criticisms on modern society (and they are there) other than for a laugh. Sure, this isn't Saint's Row, but do these same reviewers attack Grand Theft Auto V? We've gone from judging a game that allows you to run over hookers and have hot coffee to speculating about the lack of Trump-love and realistic misogyny in a game set in a fictional Montana.

The only "illusion" here is the ax these reviewers are grinding.
 

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Reminds me of old parody pictures I made.

Jack Carver in hell
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And Doomguy in Micronesia
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beat the game, thought it was neato. Tons of stuff to do, lots of little humor items that break the 4th wall and make fun of it self.

Ending left me feeling I would like to play the DLC.

I played it on hard and it was still quite easy. You get OP pretty quick in the game.
 

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If Far Cry 2 had no team deathmatch (multiplay)... How do you explain all videos of multiplay team deathmatches (see one of many below)?

Your comments seem strange since there is multiplayer when you say there's not, and the fact you think my opinion is invalid coming from someone who played the game vs. like you said, you have no idea...

When you first play FC5 there is no option to even go to the silly (in my opinion) arcade, you must play through the opening act to unlock the arcade mode. Once you do that, and then open the arcade mode, you find hop in a multiplayer game (sort of), pick from the preconfigured guns where it becomes (in my opinion) pretty clear there was little to no focus put on this style (team deathmatch) of play.

Single player mode the game opens with has good graphics, funny storyline and such (again, not at all the same with multiplayer arcade mode)... if that's your thing, then go for it, for me, it's not, and valve refunded the $89.99 plus $5.62 in taxes...


Did you try out the co-op? Curious to hear your thoughts on it.
QUOTE="Maxx, post: 1043574545, member: 64331"]Tell me about it. My friend and I got this game with the intention of playing co-op. We both lead busy lives (especially this time of year) so the prospect is to just beat people to death with shovels or maybe to catch fish for an hour or two here and there. It's not complicated. The world in the game is beautiful, it's fun just to mess around, isn't that the point of a sandbox game? I've been driven further and further away from the genre because it seems to be losing its roots, so when we finally get a game that sticks to what makes them great it's..."empty"? At what point did it become a requirement for games to be political, ideological, or something more than entertainment? I get that gaming can be art - plenty of games demonstrate that - but not every movie has to be Citizen Kane.

My friend happens to be a born-again Christian and I haven't been a church regular in over twenty years. We both enjoy the game and its context. He's conservative, I'm more moderate, we both love the characters and the premise. We don't sit there and wonder why the game isn't trans-inclusive, we don't contemplate how these nutjobs are anti-Trump while being religious, we don't concern ourselves with the criticisms on modern society (and they are there) other than for a laugh. Sure, this isn't Saint's Row, but do these same reviewers attack Grand Theft Auto V? We've gone from judging a game that allows you to run over hookers and have hot coffee to speculating about the lack of Trump-love and realistic misogyny in a game set in a fictional Montana.

The only "illusion" here is the ax these reviewers are grinding.[/QUOTE]
I heard the story isn't co-op playable in its entirety. Is this true?
 

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I don't know what the expected. It is a Ubisoft game. They make the same game, over and over and over. The setting varies, and there's some slight variation in the mechanics, but it is the exact same formula. Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Watch Dogs, all the same thing, all Ubisoft games.

By all accounts this is a competently done Ubisoft game, so if that's your thing, great, if not well then you won't like it. But it sounds like there are precisely zero surprises in terms of overall mechanics and feel.
 

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Did you try out the co-op? Curious to hear your thoughts on it.
QUOTE="Maxx, post: 1043574545, member: 64331"]Tell me about it. My friend and I got this game with the intention of playing co-op. We both lead busy lives (especially this time of year) so the prospect is to just beat people to death with shovels or maybe to catch fish for an hour or two here and there. It's not complicated. The world in the game is beautiful, it's fun just to mess around, isn't that the point of a sandbox game? I've been driven further and further away from the genre because it seems to be losing its roots, so when we finally get a game that sticks to what makes them great it's..."empty"? At what point did it become a requirement for games to be political, ideological, or something more than entertainment? I get that gaming can be art - plenty of games demonstrate that - but not every movie has to be Citizen Kane.

My friend happens to be a born-again Christian and I haven't been a church regular in over twenty years. We both enjoy the game and its context. He's conservative, I'm more moderate, we both love the characters and the premise. We don't sit there and wonder why the game isn't trans-inclusive, we don't contemplate how these nutjobs are anti-Trump while being religious, we don't concern ourselves with the criticisms on modern society (and they are there) other than for a laugh. Sure, this isn't Saint's Row, but do these same reviewers attack Grand Theft Auto V? We've gone from judging a game that allows you to run over hookers and have hot coffee to speculating about the lack of Trump-love and realistic misogyny in a game set in a fictional Montana.

The only "illusion" here is the ax these reviewers are grinding.
I heard the story isn't co-op playable in its entirety. Is this true?[/QUOTE]


I did do a short bit of co-op... if you like the single-player mode, you will love co-op mode. There was an option to make gameplay public and invite friends. I'm just a Team Deathmatch sort of player is all, though you're right, if I gave co-op more of a chance (I completely hear ya on busy lives part and simply look to blow off steam), it may have warmed on me.

I'm Christian, attend Church often, involved at Church - I don't find a problem with FC5 - I'm also a former elected (local) official, I strongly support the 2nd and right to bear arms - I believe there are bad politicians on both the left and the right. That all out of the way... I love the fact the game is set in Montana and I found the opening gameplay funny with plenty of good graphics and interaction. If this game offends someone, my opinion is don't play it then... simple as that - we don't all have to like the same things here in American.

On Co-op mode, my gaming system has open NAT (or put it in DMZ) - It's uninstalled already or I'd hop on to test few more things in co-op mode.
 
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Posted Video above of Far Cry Multiplayer... both FC and FC2 did, in fact, have Team Deathmatch modes (videos of FC2 few posts back).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry_(video_game)#Multiplayer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry_(video_game)#Multiplayer



I'm not sure what your point is, TDM/MP is not the focus of FC or FC2, the Far Cry series itself is primarily a single player game. You did not have to play multiplayer, and not playing it does not mean you have not really played FC/FC2.
 

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I just finished 2/3 of the territory goals, and FC5 is about as "Don't Tread On Me" as you can get. If you're not in the lower right quadrant of the political compass, then you should do one of two things:

1. Not buy FC5, because you probably won't like some of the political undertones.

2. Buy FC5 and grow thick skin, because you probably won't like some of the political undertones.

IOW, this game is pushing extreme stereotypes by representing its religious cultists as "crazy druggie socialists", and its gun owners against said cultists as "pick-em-up truck drivin' yee-haw rednecks". It's great fun and I am thoroughly enjoying it. Well worth the $90 gold edition price tag that I paid, imo.
 

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I'm not sure what your point is, TDM/MP is not the focus of FC or FC2, the Far Cry series itself is primarily a single player game. You did not have to play multiplayer, and not playing it does not mean you have not really played FC/FC2.

Another poster made a comment it was impossible that I played Team Deathmatch in FC and FC2 (as it doesn't have it) along with few other comments - I was simply answering them is all...
 

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I absolutely adore the irony inherent in butt-hurt complaints about "butt-hurt SJWs."

Is that wrong? I feel like that's wrong.


I think you take most people wrong. I know I'm not butt-hurt about butt-hurt SJWs, it's more of a feeling of pity. Those poor people make themselves so miserable over the dumbest things, then miserably try to spread the misery.

Misery.
 

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I think you take most people wrong. I know I'm not butt-hurt about butt-hurt SJWs, it's more of a feeling of pity. Those poor people make themselves so miserable over the dumbest things, then miserably try to spread the misery.

Misery.

Personally, I just wish we could all talk about video games and computer hardware without everything turning to politics.
 

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I will give to you that FC2 perhaps had multiplayer but you are literally the only person i've ever heard of who bought a Far Cry game for the multiplayer. You did also say you loved Far Cry (the original) which had no multiplayer, and for anyone else wanting multiplayer especially a team deathmatch style multiplayer they would look elsewhere. I have never even thought of touching Far Cry multiplayer.

I was a huge fan of original FarCry multiplayer. Unfortunately it got riddled with hackers using aimbots so it was a short lived love.
 

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You play stupid games (identity politics), you win stupid prizes (logical fallacies - "intersectionality")...

With steam coming from the editor's ears and sweat dripping from his brow, "how can the good guys like guns and make fun of SJWs and not be politically correct? Does not compute... does not compute..."
 

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I never read reviews anymore b/c they're a waste of time

Yeah, I've never read game reviews at. I've always come across the games I've enjoyed organically and by word of mouth.

That's why I thought it was so silly when the whole GG outrage about ethics in games journalism kicked off. My first thought was, people actually read that junk?
 

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The concerns about GG were legit. But the ones doing dirty journalism warped it into something else... (harassing journalists you don't like).
 

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ive been getting the impression over the years (ive had a subscription forever) that there are a number of people @ wired who got their positions there without actually caring very much about hardware, gadgets, coding, applied science, & where technology is taking society (in a granular or broad scope). i keep seeing odd political diatribes intermittently interjected in places where they really have no place or bearing watsoever, with varying degrees of subtlety. this ones pretty opaque, as they tend to come :rolleyes: i just cant help thinking that these people who have very successfully influenced the course of a very established media platform have either completely lost passion for wat they do, or they never wanted to do it in the first place...simply using their leverage to push bizarre agendas.

it would be one thing if the points they try to establish were as plain as the nose on our faces, but they never are. its always shoehorned, as if the authors are foaming at the mouth to opine a strong gut feeling - & they feebly cobble together an entire framework of rationalizations to attempt to tie it in to the platforms original theme. theyre obsessed with appearing clever instead of being persuasive by simply presenting an intelligently constructed argument! wired gives them the voice to bleed their emotions onto ink & paper (or html)...& its not just them. it happens everywhere to varying extents, on both sides of the political spectrum. if there was rational structure & grounded logic behind such soapbox lecturing, that would be one thing...but its always rationalization for peoples feelings & their unresolved cognitive dissonance instead.

tl;dr liberal or conservative, i dont subscribe to wired for this shit & it has no place in a technology periodical
 
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Game glitches are entertaining though.

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At least the raiders made sure he had flowers for his grave...
 

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FC5: if it has girls with big boobs, I’ll buy it!



(Am I not supposed to say that anymore?)
 

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you wanna see real tears?

if far cry 5 was set in south africa and you were a farmer defending your land.

that review was stupid and i feel i'm owed the time it took to read it back.

and just for fun a little bit of re-writing history.



i do believe the bundy's were justified in their actions were they not?

i feel dirty reading that.

The metric shit storm of butt hurt that the solar justice warriors would have calling it racist would be amazing. I'd buy and play the shit out of that game.

Butthurt SJW "Journalists" are butthurt that they didn't get positive reinforcement for their fucked up ideology from a video game meant to sell millions of copies to everybody.

In other words, fuck them and their shitty expectations.

Yep. For what its worth I don't think the game is good. Its buggy as hell and a lot of the bugs are game breaking(playing it on a xbox one x). I think I've figured out the story which is lazy as well.

With the colt being able to catch you whenever they want and the music they are pushing I'm guessing you end up with them at the end. They play the music and you kill everyone of your allies or something. Haven't gotten to the end so I could be wrong but it seems like this is where it is going
 

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So, they didn't actually review the GAME.

They just pissed and moaned about the politics.

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These people learned exactly nothing from GG.
Now this is quality review. Not like those other guys. BTW the bugs in this game look amazingly funny. Quality work done here.

 

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I'm really diggin Far Cry 5, except Faith's zone... mainly because the music. As I was telling someone you would think you could just shut the damn radio off, but every fricken base or place your liberate starts playing the damn Aretha Franklinesque crap. I actually prefer the cult music to liberating places and having them play that whiny crap. I need to see if I can hack the game to play Clutch, Volbeat and hill billy rock in all zones, because I am a killing machine with the right music.
 

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I heard the story isn't co-op playable in its entirety. Is this true?

It doesn't save progress in the campaign for the visitor which can also wall off some Perks unless they do it in their own game (or as a host themselves). Other than that, it's all co-op playable, far as I know.
 

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yea I am in the these glitches are entertaining as hell. Long as it doesn't break the game, I don't mind seeing silliness like that while playing.
 

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solar justice warriors

That sound like an awesome 80's cartoon



SHEMAN and the solar justice warriors

I am Adam, Princess of Eternia, Defender of the Secrets of my pants content
This is Cringer, my fearless friend.

Fabulous, secret powers were revealed to me the day I cover away my magic "wand" and said: "By the Power of cosmetics"

She-man, She-man...

I have the power!

Cringer became the mighty PussyCat and I became She-man, the most Fabolous (wo)man in the Universe!

Only three others share this secret...
Our friends the Snowflake, Many-a-genders, and Weirdo.
Together we defend my pants content
From the evil forces of reality

She-man!


-- edit --
Link for the younger audience that might not get the reference
 

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This was a culture writer not a gamer. So I don't consider it a game review. Obviously, this person is more interested in the story of a game than the gameplay. I wonder what she would think of Fallout 4.
 

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Also, regarding the review, two major takeaways I had from it were:
  • Author comes off as surprisingly pro-cult
  • Author complains there are no NPC kids in a murder simulator
Seems legit

I thought it odd they wanted to sneak up on sleeping children and families at night. Not considering that having such aspects in the game would cause a media riot. Maybe it's a bucket-list thing?
 

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Lets analyze the math here
FC3 = Tactics + Story + Characters
FC4 = FC3 + Animals
FC5 = (FC4 - Tactics) x America

So
FC4 = Tactics + Story + Characters + Animals
then
FC5 = (Tactics + Story + Characters + Animals - Tactics) x America
FC5 = (Animals + Story + Characters) x America

Sounds good to me! I mean the tactics of FC games has been either A) sneak around really slowly and 1) stab people or 2) snipe people or B) Go running in guns blazing BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM, CALL FOR FUCKING BACKUP, MOAR BODIES!!!! BLAM BLAM BLAM.
 

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No he is right, far cry was/is primarily a single player game. I never touched the bolted on multiplayer, but might do co-op in 5.
Far Cry was made back in the golden era of games, where you got a single player game that worth the cost of the game and kept you enjoyed (we're going to ignore the mutant monkey incident), and then they had some MP aspects for people who wanted that. Now you get games that are primarily MP, and they tack on some single player shit that isn't worth the box the game comes in (if games still came in boxes). Simply put with MP you need to spend less on AI in the game, practically zero story necessary, and just make sure the characters look good and the game is "balanced" (then fail on that aspect throughout the first few patches)
 

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Far Cry was made back in the golden era of games, where you got a single player game that worth the cost of the game and kept you enjoyed (we're going to ignore the mutant monkey incident), and then they had some MP aspects for people who wanted that. Now you get games that are primarily MP, and they tack on some single player shit that isn't worth the box the game comes in (if games still came in boxes). Simply put with MP you need to spend less on AI in the game, practically zero story necessary, and just make sure the characters look good and the game is "balanced" (then fail on that aspect throughout the first few patches)

IMHO multiplayer has ruined games, but that is a rant for another time.
 

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IMHO multiplayer has ruined games, but that is a rant for another time.

Hear hear! This is so true.

Not many of us from the "golden age" of PC Gaming (90's - early oughts) are still around and playing games to see what they've devolved into. I tend to believe that most of us that are still around share the same opinion.

Broadband internet access ruined gaming.
 
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