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Can it be? Windows XP might be getting another reprieve? Say what you want about Windows XP but that operating system has more lives than an alley cat.

Although Microsoft is pushing hard to move everyone to the latest version of Windows, there are some market realities that are going to keep Windows XP around for some time--likely well beyond the current June deadline for large computer makers to stop selling the older operating system.
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So how much longer are the disc-only OEM version going to be for sale at retailers and etailers?
 
I think Microsoft needs to come to terms that many users are still going to stick with XP for the foreseeable future, though I have my doubts that they will.

Microsoft should have included WMP 11 and IE7 (or at least have the option to install them or not) in SP3 but they chose not to. They are focused more on getting people to buy Vista and I don't imagine they want to give any more added reasons to buy XP (though they will accept your money).

Personally I'll stick with XP all the way through Vista, to the next OS they make (if it gives me a reason to switch).
 
Mike89 said:
Personally I'll stick with XP all the way through Vista, to the next OS they make (if it gives me a reason to switch).
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Thats my plan also...I'm not anti Vista by any means, but XP serves me well,and I see no reason to replace it .
 
i am only going to move to vista when i do an upgrade of my system (i have an oem copy of xp)
 
I'm not anti Vista by any means
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I'm not either, but I am a "why Vista?". For me to switch, my current OS would have to be not suiting my needs and computer practices any longer. That is just not the case. I've spent many many hours/days/months setting/tweaking up XP just the way I like it, to do everything I ask it to. It does. DX10 is just not a compelling enough reason by itself at this time to warrant a switch (for me). As long as DX9 still puts a smile on my face playing the games, I'm good to go.
 
I just don't want to spend the money on an OS that I don't need. Not to mention the fact that I don't want to replace it because there's nothing better. SP3 is great news.
 
working in IT for a software company I will say that that we are in NO RUSH to have a vista migration anytime soon.. the problem isn't really us tech heads it's getting the endusers accustomed to the completely different os and answering 100x more calls a day on it..
 
I think XP will be around for awhile, too many people are hating Vista...
I found out a huge problem with Map drives and vista today.......
 
I'm sticking to XP until I see Vista being embraced on a wider scope. I still see a lot of everyday software (read: not necessarily mainstream!) that isn't ready for Vista sitting on the shelf at my work, and knowing my luck I will still find the one piece of obscure everyday software that I like, that won't work under Vista nor have a patch within a reasonable timeframe.

I've tried Vista, and I do like it based on an initial trial, but I don't think it's something I'd be willing to put onto my own system until I played around with it more (read: end up going to my aunt's place more to fix whatever's messed up on it)
 
That column is wishful thinking with not even a rumor that MS is going to extend the deadline again.

It doesn't really matter. Businesses that *need* XP and have appropriate licenses can still downgrade from Vista to XP if they need to. XP is still in mainstream support for current users.

In consumer sales. XP preinstalls now are a small minority compared to the total (I read only 5% are XP now for consumer sales). It might annoy a tiny slice of users, but that's about it. It's new hardware and most systems are fast enough to run Vista smoothly.

I don't see what the uproar would be, especially here. Most people here don't even buy pre-built systems. The few who actually pay for the OS will still be able to find OEM and retail copies for a while into 2009 and possibly later. ;)
 
Yeah. I just got my new laptop with Vista Home premium. Gotta say so far: Not liking it. If i can find XP drivers for my laptop then i'm going back to XP: ASAP.
 
The computer store I work at is happy that Best Buy, Circuit City, Office Depot, Office Max etc. have moved to all Vista computers... We keep getting people left and right buying systems from us because we still offer XP. Until the time XP becomes nearly impossible to aquire and/or the price shoots thru the roof, we'll still offer XP. There are more people than Microsoft realizes that don't want to move to Vista anytime soon lol.
 
I'd have to agree... if enough business are downgrading Vista Business to XP Pro, they may 'encourage' ms to continue support of XP.

To be honest, my school laptop given to me is XP Pro, while I was running Vista on my desktop. I sold my desktop to help cover for books, and I'm enjoying using XP again. I got a free copy of Vista, a copy of Vista Business through some MS deal, I sold that with my system. I'm getting another free copy from MS soon, some survey thing, free Vista Ultimate 32bit/64bit. I may use that on my next system, but since I don't plan to buy a new system until after school, who knows Vista may be on SP2.... even SP3 at the rate they are going...
 
Warn3rv3 said:
Yeah. I just got my new laptop with Vista Home premium. Gotta say so far: Not liking it. If i can find XP drivers for my laptop then i'm going back to XP: ASAP.
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For me, that is where Vista shined. I couldn't stand it on my desktop gaming machine, but I love it on my laptop.

Things like SuperFetch make using a laptop a bit better performaing and the Windows Mobile Center that works with my Windows Mobile 6 phone is very nice over XP's Active Sync.
 
The only reason I have Vista is because I got two copies from my friend who works at Microsoft. I'm not against it for any big reason aside from it not being the quantum leap from XP that it should have been (look at OS 10.4 and 10.5 for examples of that).

If you already have Vista it is fine, but I don't see a huge reason to upgrade if you already have XP and it is humming along. XP will run everything and security is pretty good at this point. It isn't like the jump from 98 to XP where the benefits were massive and immediately obvious to anybody.
 
I cant wait to switch, but I also play games. Vista x64 is pretty good at most stuff, but still too many bugs for me to switch. I want memory, I run virtual machines, I want speed which 32bit is holding things back. Modern games run faster with 8 gigs over 3gigs.

What I hate, the vista sound system, the file explorer, the overhead, the slow ass file system, cant patch uxtheme on x64 easily....

With 4x or more cpu's out and tons of memory, winxp is limiting so much new technology...
 
I believe if aint broke dont fix it. I've had xp for along time and I'll wait like others till another os comes out. Vista to me is too bloated and too many problems with equipment.
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Met-AL said:
For me, that is where Vista shined. I couldn't stand it on my desktop gaming machine, but I love it on my laptop.

Things like SuperFetch make using a laptop a bit better performaing and the Windows Mobile Center that works with my Windows Mobile 6 phone is very nice over XP's Active Sync.
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yeah too bad vista kills your battery life.
 
rallys/checkers still uses windows 98se on their visual order lcd panel..

sooo.. yea xp is going to be a around for a very long time.
 
Similiar to when xp first came out I was so anti-xp and didnt want to switch from 98. DUH but now its their best OS. Similarly I was completely anti-vista, but now that I've been using it for a few months It's really not that bad. I still think I prefer XP but buying a new computer with vista on it doesn't make me cry either. It's just I don't see any reason to upgrade to vista because it has very few if any advantages over xp.
 
People say XP's security is just fine yet I recall removing 600 infections from someone's XP machine as long as 3 months back.

I think that had more to do with his anti-virus protection though. They really should stop selling McAfee at Premium prices as it definately isn't a premium package. He had there 10-in-1 protection package which for him seemed to have protected absolutely nothing. Was horrible how badly his PC was FUBAR.
 
i remember when XP came out. I was using 2kPro. Everybody in my classes used windows ME or 98se, or 2kPro. All of our labs were win2k server. Then XP came out. Everybody hated it, including me. Over time XP became great. We all fear change. We hate learning new OS's. I think over time people, including me will adopt and love vista. Just give it some time, and reasons to switch.
 
SuprSpy79 said:
Similiar to when xp first came out I was so anti-xp and didnt want to switch from 98. DUH but now its their best OS. Similarly I was completely anti-vista, but now that I've been using it for a few months It's really not that bad. I still think I prefer XP but buying a new computer with vista on it doesn't make me cry either. It's just I don't see any reason to upgrade to vista because it has very few if any advantages over xp.
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XP is simply the best and widely used OS that Microsoft has and that's why they're continuing to support for it. SP3 will carry the majority of users to the next OS that Microsoft releases. Vista wasn't as bad an effort as ME but lets hope they don't make the same mistakes with their next OS.
 
There is nothing wrong with vista. People are just flat lazy. Vista was a major overhaul when it came to OS's, people bitched about security so ms beefed it up and now people bitch that its too much. I've been running Enterprise and Ultimate on my work and home machines respectively for over a year now and really the only problems ive had were from 3rd party software companies that didnt make their software work with vista.

That isnt Microsoft's fault - people bitch about it like oh snap my Vista machine wont run my 1998 taxcut program Damn.....

And to the guy who said vista on his new laptop didnt run so good he was going to switch back to XP - I hope you have a Retail copy of XP to put on that otherwise you are installing software illegally.
 
By the time I switch to Vista, Windows 2009? will be officially be out in beta
 
That would be Windows 7, and it might not be out until 2010.
 
if your machine is less than 6 months old and you do not buy generic parts... x64 vista has no problems for me...
 
Lamont Cranston said:
And to the guy who said vista on his new laptop didnt run so good he was going to switch back to XP - I hope you have a Retail copy of XP to put on that otherwise you are installing software illegally.
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He can use whatever copy of XP Home he wants.. OEM, Retail, Dell, Gateway. MS says if you wish do downgrade Vista you can. You must obtain an XP CD, install it, when it asks for a code you call Microsoft. You tell them "I have Vista, I'm downgrading" You read them off the Vista key, and they give you an XP key. Plain/simple & legal.

There are some precautions, Vista Ultimate/Business will downgrade to XP Pro, but Vista Home/Premium will downgrade to XP Home. Since he had Vista Home Pre, he can only go to XP Home to be legal.
 
Lamont Cranston said:
There is nothing wrong with vista. People are just flat lazy. Vista was a major overhaul when it came to OS's, people bitched about security so ms beefed it up and now people bitch that its too much. I've been running Enterprise and Ultimate on my work and home machines respectively for over a year now and really the only problems ive had were from 3rd party software companies that didnt make their software work with vista.

That isnt Microsoft's fault - people bitch about it like oh snap my Vista machine wont run my 1998 taxcut program Damn.....

And to the guy who said vista on his new laptop didnt run so good he was going to switch back to XP - I hope you have a Retail copy of XP to put on that otherwise you are installing software illegally.
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Lazy? No, how about smart.

You're right about one thing. There really isn't anything wrong with Vista except there isn't anything thing worth spending your money on.

The only people bitching are Vista users whining why so many people chose not to use it. Most XP users could give a shyt about Vista. I don't use Vista because XP is a better OS. I don't know how more simply I can put it.
 
If you're going 64 bit, there's only one choice - Vista.
XP64 is pathetic and I had a nightmare of a time with it.

OTOH my Vista x64 experience has been stellar - pre-SP1 and post-SP1.
 
Vista is a bloated pig. I won't use it. I won't recommend that my customers use it. There is simply no reason for that OS to be 15gb on disk. The new implementation of IE is only marginally better than comes with XP and I won't recommend my customers use either. Mozilla FTW. Currently, no iteration of Linux is good enough for the general populace.
 
You're probably doing your customers a disservice by pushing your personal biases on them. Soon that will cost you customers. :rolleyes:
 
pxc said:
You're probably doing your customers a disservice by pushing your personal biases on them. Soon that will cost you customers. :rolleyes:
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Better he push bias on his customers than an OS that might not be compatible with his customers existing software and hardware. That is especially true with businesses who's existing systems are working perfecting in their current state.
 
ICOM said:
Better he push bias on his customers than an OS that might not be compatible with his customers existing software and hardware.
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Read his post. He lists the amount of space the OS takes on the hard drive and the minor security improvements on Vista over IE7 on XP as the major problems.

Of course customers need to know if the OS will work with existing applications and hardware, especially in a business. But there has just been a lot of "I heard" type of unfounded, and often untrue, opinions about Vista that are repeated over and over again fourth and fifth hand.

At this point, nearly 1.5 years after RTM, the ignorance is purely willful.
 
Met-AL said:
It does? When my laptop runs on battery, Aero switches to basic and my GPU clock drops in half. It runs the same as XP in my particular case.
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That's not what I've read. Anandtech has done benchmarks for battery life on vista and it consistently shows that vista hurts battery life.
 
BallerX said:
Vista is a bloated pig. I won't use it. I won't recommend that my customers use it. There is simply no reason for that OS to be 15gb on disk. The new implementation of IE is only marginally better than comes with XP and I won't recommend my customers use either. Mozilla FTW. Currently, no iteration of Linux is good enough for the general populace.
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I agree, you'd think after all this time, reality would sink in for Vista users. Perhaps MS should develop a intervention support group for Vista users in denial.
 
Well, when you face the fact that If you know what the fuck you are doing, there is no security Improvement I can see. Most of my customers have 20gb hard drives in 5-6 year old computers. All they do is check email, and do their taxes. They have no need for the bloat or the hassle. BTW, I have never had one single customer complaint. Can you say the same? Matter of fact, I don't even have to advertise my services, other than handing out a few cards.
 
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