Windows BIGADV is Here

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  1. amdgamer

    amdgamer [H]ardness Supreme

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    Check this out! Look at what my Windows SMP client just downloaded! Lets hope it is more stable running natively in Windows than it was in Linux.


    [15:07:07] Completed 490000 out of 500000 steps (98%)
    [15:10:26] Completed 495000 out of 500000 steps (99%)
    [15:13:45] Completed 500000 out of 500000 steps (100%)
    [15:13:46] DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
    [15:13:56]
    [15:13:56] Finished Work Unit:
    [15:13:56] - Reading up to 20302920 from "work/wudata_03.trr": Read 20302920
    [15:13:56] trr file hash check passed.
    [15:13:56] edr file hash check passed.
    [15:13:56] logfile size: 55430
    [15:13:56] Leaving Run
    [15:14:01] - Writing 20392626 bytes of core data to disk...
    [15:14:01] ... Done.
    [15:14:03] - Shutting down core
    [15:14:03]
    [15:14:03] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
    [15:14:07] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
    [15:14:07] Unit 3 finished with 96 percent of time to deadline remaining.
    [15:14:07] Updated performance fraction: 0.950619
    [15:14:07] Sending work to server
    [15:14:07] Project: 6020 (Run 0, Clone 51, Gen 206)


    [15:14:07] + Attempting to send results [June 29 15:14:07 UTC]
    [15:14:07] - Reading file work/wuresults_03.dat from core
    [15:14:07] (Read 20392626 bytes from disk)
    [15:14:07] Connecting to http://171.64.65.54:8080/
    [15:19:54] Posted data.
    [15:19:54] Initial: 0000; - Uploaded at ~57 kB/s
    [15:19:55] - Averaged speed for that direction ~57 kB/s
    [15:19:55] + Results successfully sent
    [15:19:55] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
    [15:19:55] + Number of Units Completed: 23

    [15:20:00] Trying to send all finished work units
    [15:20:00] + No unsent completed units remaining.
    [15:20:00] - Preparing to get new work unit...
    [15:20:00] Cleaning up work directory
    [15:20:00] + Attempting to get work packet
    [15:20:00] Passkey found
    [15:20:00] - Will indicate memory of 12286 MB
    [15:20:00] - Connecting to assignment server
    [15:20:00] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
    [15:20:01] Posted data.
    [15:20:01] Initial: 43AB; - Successful: assigned to (171.67.108.22).
    [15:20:01] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
    [15:20:01] Loaded queue successfully.
    [15:20:01] Connecting to http://171.67.108.22:8080/
    [15:20:09] Posted data.
    [15:20:09] Initial: 0000; - Receiving payload (expected size: 24840475)
    [15:20:54] - Downloaded at ~539 kB/s
    [15:20:54] - Averaged speed for that direction ~517 kB/s
    [15:20:54] + Received work.
    [15:20:54] Trying to send all finished work units
    [15:20:54] + No unsent completed units remaining.
    [15:20:54] + Closed connections
    [15:20:54]
    [15:20:54] + Processing work unit
    [15:20:54] Core required: FahCore_a3.exe
    [15:20:54] Core found.
    [15:20:54] Working on queue slot 04 [June 29 15:20:54 UTC]
    [15:20:54] + Working ...
    [15:20:54] - Calling '.\FahCore_a3.exe -dir work/ -nice 19 -suffix 04 -np 8 -checkpoint 15 -verbose -lifeline 2944 -version 629'

    [15:20:54]
    [15:20:54] *------------------------------*
    [15:20:54] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
    [15:20:54] Version 2.22 (Mar 12, 2010)
    [15:20:54]
    [15:20:54] Preparing to commence simulation
    [15:20:54] - Looking at optimizations...
    [15:20:54] - Created dyn
    [15:20:54] - Files status OK
    [15:20:59] - Expanded 24839963 -> 30791309 (decompressed 123.9 percent)
    [15:20:59] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=24839963 data_size=30791309, decompressed_data_size=30791309 diff=0
    [15:20:59] - Digital signature verified
    [15:20:59]
    [15:20:59] Project: 2684 (Run 2, Clone 13, Gen 5)
    [15:20:59]
     
  2. APOLLO

    APOLLO [H]ard|DCer of the Month - March 2009

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    Interesting. Let us know how those 2684s go. ;)
     
  3. amdgamer

    amdgamer [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'm actually more curious about how our fellow Gulftowners are going to do since they will now be able to throw a full 12 threads at it without that VM. Or how our new SR2 guys will do with their ability to throw a full 16 threads in Windows!

    Part of me is scared because we know the 2684's wern't too stable.
     
  4. Kendrak

    Kendrak [H]ard|DCer of the Year 2009

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    What flags if any did you have?

    We need info on how you grabbed this WU.... MEOW.
     
  5. zero2dash

    zero2dash [H]ardness Supreme

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    This.

    I put -bigadv in my SMP2 clients a few weeks ago...is that all you did?
    (Mine are set to advmethods always in the config, and the flags I use are -bigadv -smp)

    Sounds good. Both of my VM's will finish their 2684's around 4am CST tomorrow (Wed.), looks like I can switch 'em off permanently. :)

    Fuck it, post EVERYTHING. WE WANT DEETS.
    TPF, flags, credit, the whole 9. :D
    Control+C it, see if it flushes. :D nah j/k
     
  6. mplee

    mplee Limp Gawd

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  7. Kendrak

    Kendrak [H]ard|DCer of the Year 2009

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    Got the SR-2 just in time, LOL
     
  8. APOLLO

    APOLLO [H]ard|DCer of the Month - March 2009

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    I second this, seriously. Stop and restart the client to see if these WUs are more stable than what we've seen so far. You don't have anything to lose, the WU has just begun. That alone will determine it for me whether I run -bigadv at all. No sense processing -bigadv regardless the OS it's available in if there's no guarantee of completion. /2cents

    After nearly 48 hrs, I figured as much. Well, I would imagine at some point they'll make a comeback to Linux for those who prefer running an alternative OS.
     
  9. zero2dash

    zero2dash [H]ardness Supreme

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    Hopefully I didn't muck up the board, I'm hoping to keep from too much crossposting.
    I was posting my thread a minute ago regarding my A2 thread there at the FF (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1529375) and now I see that mplee mentions it here as well.
     
  10. DooKey

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    I'll let you know how my Gulftown handles it once we finish the BOINC run this month.
     
  11. ccityinstaller

    ccityinstaller 2[H]4U

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    As much as I wanna say that's awesome, AMDGAMER, I suppose now you're gonna get the mower out again :(...

    Is it safe to say there is still no way around the 8 core requirement?

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Kendrak

    Kendrak [H]ard|DCer of the Year 2009

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    Just loaded up a 2684 on my i7 930 (slipped by home on the way home from a client) it's runnign good and here is the best part....

    The system is only using 1.77GB of memory with Win 7 Ult 64bit. Now that is something. Now I can harvest the rest of the memory from the system and make Nexus 12GB trip channel :cool:

    Nexus gets switched over when I get home (I have to do a HDD swap and it be nice for this WU to finnish
     
  13. amdgamer

    amdgamer [H]ardness Supreme

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    Ever since I abandoned the Linux client in the VM due to stability issues with the 2684 A3 bigadv, i've been running the Windows SMP2 client with advmethods turned on by default, and using these switches at the command line

    - smp 8 -verbosity 9 -bigadv

    This morning after it completed a regular A3 work unit, I noticed that my wireless router was showing activity for a very long time. It just got done uploading a 21mb finished work unit, so it couldn't still be uploading. I ran downstairs to the storage room where the folding rig is, and it sure as hell downloaded a 2684 A3 bigadv in Windows.

    I'm am hoping for stability, although part of me is scared that the 2684 A3's may not be any more stable running natively in Windows. If this 2684 crashes and flushes on me, i'll just remove the -bigadv switch from the command line.
     
  14. APOLLO

    APOLLO [H]ard|DCer of the Month - March 2009

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    Now that's something I want to hear. I could eventually get rid of half the modules running in my systems, and cherry pick the best out of the lot for a bit higher OCing, or just build another budget system with the removed parts. Good stuff. :cool:
     
  15. zero2dash

    zero2dash [H]ardness Supreme

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    Seriously, control+c the window, then bring it back up again...that was a guaranteed crash and flush with 2684's in linuxrouter VM for me. You're early on in the WU, might as well test it before it does a ton of work.

    .....and post your rig stats, TPF, PPD and credit! Inquiring minds wanna know! :D TIA
     
  16. 10e

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    Confirmed! 'Bout frickin' time!

    This is an i7 920 running at 203x19. TPF is about on par with Linux VM, but that's just the first frame, and it usually improves after frame 3 or 4.

    Right now it's using approximately 1GB of RAM.

    HFM.NET says about 19.5K PPD. Hopefully that will improve. Can't wait until my 4050 (203*20) i7 920 gets a hold of this one! :cool:

    Here is my client.cfg (without Passkey of course!) :)

    Code:
    [settings]
    username=10eeee
    team=37412
    passkey= BA A3 windows FTW
    asknet=no
    machineid=1
    bigpackets=big
    extra_parms=-bigadv -smp 8 -verbosity 9
    local=245
    
    [http]
    active=no
    host=localhost
    port=8080
    usereg=no
    
    [core]
    priority=96
    cpuusage=100
    checkpoint=9
    nocpulock=1
    addr=
    
    [clienttype]
    memory=4096
    type=3
    
    Code:
    [15:45:33] 
    [15:45:33] *------------------------------*
    [15:45:33] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
    [15:45:33] Version 2.22 (Mar 12, 2010)
    [15:45:33] 
    [15:45:33] Preparing to commence simulation
    [15:45:33] - Looking at optimizations...
    [15:45:33] - Created dyn
    [15:45:33] - Files status OK
    [15:45:37] - Expanded 24831552 -> 30791309 (decompressed 124.0 percent)
    [15:45:37] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=24831552 data_size=30791309, decompressed_data_size=30791309 diff=0
    [15:45:38] - Digital signature verified
    [15:45:38] 
    [15:45:38] Project: 2684 (Run 3, Clone 9, Gen 4)
    [15:45:38] 
    [15:45:38] Assembly optimizations on if available.
    [15:45:38] Entering M.D.
    [15:45:48] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)
    [16:31:39] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps  (1%)
     
  17. amdgamer

    amdgamer [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'm afraid there is no way around the 8 core requirement. The Nehalem based Core i7's more or less got lucky that they are able to run 8 simultaneous threads, and the folding client apparantly is fooled into thinking it is an 8 core processor when it is only a quad core. The problem with us Core i7 folks is that running the 2684's are almost a nailbiting experience as it runs incredibly close to the 4 day deadline. Bigadv from what i've been told, was never intended to be run on anything less than 8 cores which shows you how incredibly powerful the Nehalem architecture is.
     
  18. 10e

    10e 2[H]4U

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    Yes, so anything less than 3.4 Ghz is pretty much on the line depending on some other system variables.

    I am noticing as someone else mentioned (Tigerbiten I think) that bus speed and memory speed can help in those situations.

    The above config I have is 203x19, 1624mhz RAM speed at 8-8-8-24, 2T, so it's by no means a super box, but a tiny bit better than mainstream in terms of RAM speed.

     
  19. zero2dash

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    Guess now's as good a time as any to start re-tweaking my oc's that were stable in everything (incl. 20 passes of LinX) except bigadv VM. :)
     
  20. nitrobass24

    nitrobass24 [H]ard|DCer of the Month - December 2009

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    All you have to do is add -bigadv to your SMP2 client.

    2684's are much much more stable in windows than on linux. In fact i got better TPFs in windows than on linux. When i get home ill post all my numbers.
     
  21. mplee

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    I tried it on a Dell dual E5506 workstation and got 56:54 for the first frame. I'll let it run a few more frames to see if it will be able to complete on time when the machine is in use. I'm thinking no, since it's like 40 seconds away from the bonus cutoff. The machine has Windows XP, with only 4GB of RAM.
     
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    Crunching one now in VM!
     
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  24. Vaulter98c

    Vaulter98c [H]ard|DCer of the Month - October 2009

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    Soo... Just shut down, add big adv to my flags, restart? Ooooo soooo excited!! Headed off to do this to Skynet right now!
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  25. Kendrak

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    i7 930 @ 3.8 is doing 49:34 TPF or 17600ppd.

    That is a few k more than what the average SMP client was puling.
     
  26. mplee

    mplee Limp Gawd

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    Yep and make sure the work size is set for big...I made that mistake when I first tried it.
     
  27. Vaulter98c

    Vaulter98c [H]ard|DCer of the Month - October 2009

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    when I went thru setup the first time I put in big, nothing to change now? If thats the case I'll drop 7-64 on my i7 build tonight!
     
  28. TYoda

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    I'm excited to try this as well but my i7 920 is only running at 3.4 atm...whats my TPF going to be with that? Any idea?
     
  29. amdgamer

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    Nope, just make sure advmethods is on by default in the config and make sure you add the -bigadv command line switch. Hurry up, I want to see numbers from you SR2 folks!
     
  30. mplee

    mplee Limp Gawd

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    I think that's it. I just needed to add the bigadv flag and I was good to go.
     
  31. Kendrak

    Kendrak [H]ard|DCer of the Year 2009

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    Are they out of work already?
     
  32. Vaulter98c

    Vaulter98c [H]ard|DCer of the Month - October 2009

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    Just grabbed one on skynet :)
    Altho I will say this, is there utilization issues with this?? with A3 SMP's I had a steady power draw, maybe a 2 watt vary in each direction. Now, my draw is jumping around between 380 and 417 (417 where I was with A3's) but task manager shows me at constant 100% CPU use. ideas??
     
  33. mplee

    mplee Limp Gawd

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    I don't think so. I just grabbed one on my i7 machine, to give it a try with smp 7.
     
  34. Kendrak

    Kendrak [H]ard|DCer of the Year 2009

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    Then why is Nexus not puling anything? :(
     
  35. Nathan_P

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  36. Vaulter98c

    Vaulter98c [H]ard|DCer of the Month - October 2009

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    Cuz Skynet said move over :)
     
  37. mplee

    mplee Limp Gawd

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    Strange, I got the one about 17 minutes ago.

    The log show anything out of the ordinary?
     
  38. Kendrak

    Kendrak [H]ard|DCer of the Year 2009

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    I fixed it :eek:
     
  39. DooKey

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    I just pulled down a -bigadv. I'll let you know in a bit how my Gulftown is doing.
     
  40. gkanakis

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    52-54:ish range. My work computer is at 3.3GHz, but I forgot the number.