Windows 10 right click bug

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For anyone with Windows 10, can you run this quick test?

Right click an empty space on your desktop to open the context menu. Continue right clicking on various empty spaces on your desktop. Do this 10+ times. The more the better.

Does the context menu begin opening more and more delayed?

I'm experiencing this issue on a fresh fresh install of the latest Windows 10. Even before I install any software or drivers.

If I open the context menu enough times in quick succession, the whole entire system slows to a crawl. Mouse clicks become delayed, window panning stutters like crazy, even mousing over icons in windows explorer leads to a significantly delayed mouse-over effect. The system is unusable in this state.

This slow state resolves itself after some time (maybe 30 seconds). It seems to last longer the more times I right click on my desktop. Of interest is that right clicking on folders or application icons does not exhibit this behavior. It's only right clicking on empty space that causes it.

Windows Explorer shows 2.5 - 3% CPU usage in this slow state. Restarting explorer fixes it.

I've reformatted multiple times, even installed Windows on a different hard drive. I've installed all system updates. Nothing is fixing it.

Anyway, I'm just trying to collect data to see if any others experience this, or if I somehow won the most bizzare Windows issue of all time lottery.
 
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TwistedMetalGear said:
For anyone with Windows 10, can you run this quick test?

Right click an empty space on your desktop to open the context menu. Continue right clicking on various empty spaces on your desktop. Do this 10+ times. The more the better.

Does the context menu begin opening more and more delayed?

I'm experiencing this issue on a fresh fresh install of the latest Windows 10. Even before I install any software or drivers.

If I open the context menu enough times in quick succession, the whole entire system slows to a crawl. Mouse clicks become delayed, window panning stutters like crazy, even mousing over icons in windows explorer leads to a significantly delayed mouse-over effect. The system is unusable in this state.

This slow state resolves itself after some time (maybe 30 seconds). It seems to last longer the more times I right click on my desktop. Of interest is that right clicking on folders or application icons does not exhibit this behavior. It's only right clicking on empty space that causes it.

Windows Explorer shows 2.5 - 3% CPU usage in this slow state. Restarting explorer fixes it.

I've reformatted multiple times, even installed Windows on a different hard drive. I've installed all system updates. Nothing is fixing it.

Anyway, I'm just trying to collect data to see if any others experience this, or if I somehow won the most bizzare Windows issue of all time lottery.
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On my work laptop here at the office running Windows 10 64-bit. Not seeing it here. Not certain by any stretch, but you could have Spectre or other chipset malware on your system. That loads before windows, and commandeers your system, opening it for malicious actors. Alternatively, your image could be infected if it's on a USB. Sorry if this is not too helpful. GL.

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the wafflator said:
Nope seems fine for me on 1803. Have you checked after installing video drivers?
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Yes, it's happening on both a clean install of Windows (before installing anything or even connecting to the internet), and also after all drivers have been installed. I believe my Windows version is 1809.
 
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If I click right click very fast and have the menu pop up it eventually gets to a point where it stops flashing. Then when I do a single right click there is a slight delay. Wait a few seconds and right click again and it immediately pops up.
 
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Just tried it on 1809 I am seeing it slow down and the CPU usage goes up to 6.2% (basically using an entire core of a TR-1950x) for explorer.exe.and another 6.2% goes to state repository service. It all goes back to normal after 10-15 seconds.
 
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ryan_975 said:
Just tried it on 1809 I am seeing it slow down and the CPU usage goes up to 6.2% (basically using an entire core of a TR-1950x) for explorer.exe.and another 6.2% goes to state repository service. It all goes back to normal after 10-15 seconds.
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YES!!!

Thank you very much. I thought I was going insane.
 
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I'm running 1803 x64 Pro and I don't have this issue. I did it about 30 times, if anything it popped faster after the first time. Could be a bug in 1809 based on ryan_975 's post.

Heh, posted too late. I will check if I have any machines with 1809 on them.
 
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Holy crap, my old X201 has 1809 on it, explorer is hitting 40% CPU utilization just from right clicking on the desktop a bunch. After a few times it starts slowing down how quickly it comes up too. Looks like you found a nice bug in explorer.
 
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Running 1809 on Haswell i3 desktop and I have the bug too. CPU use goes to almost 100% and the two processes are Windows Explorer at 41% and State Repository Service at 55%. CPU use returns to normal after stop right clicking.
 
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I get it on my 1809 build. It’s one of this things that I’m going to file under “not an issue” though since who does that?
 
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forgot about this thread. just ried on my old ass work laptop and it does do it. its only got an intel 3000 igpu, maybe its an igpu glitch? my home system mentioned above still doesnt do it.
 
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Pwned...
Love to see the video of all you nerds right clicking away.....lol

My old ass system with dirty old win10 install from day1 of win10 with all updates = No lag or cpu usage spike!!!
 
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ryan_975 said:
My 1950X has no iGPU.
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yeah I guess not eh. no idea what it is. ive tried it on three system now, 2 with gpus are fine, old ass laptop isn't. not that big of a deal though as until this thread ive never done this in the 25+ years ive been using computers.
 
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It's not a huge deal but it's pretty damn bizarre that something as simple as right clicking is stressing out the CPU.
 
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pendragon1 said:
yeah, my sig system and it doesnt do it.
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You know, after I upgraded to 1809 I started having issues with Firefox not closing quickly after exiting. If you closed it an tried to re-open it right away you would get an error about it already running.

I wonder if there is a bigger issue with 1809 and Windows Explorer in general. I'll update to 1903 as soon as it's officially up.
 
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Most users seem to have configured (or someone had) this 'disaster' and do their work successfully as they had with Win7, WinXP etc. Every OS has these kind of very low-impact long-standing bugs (if this is one) no matter closed or open source.
Yes, this semi-annual update schedule is sh*t overall for me too but at least for now I didn't have issues with these updates on several 10's. And there are LTSC editions that follow the old scheme. I acknowledge this has led to increased piracy because people do seek for these LTSC versions to avoid all the crap that gets installed as part of normal 10. MS, I believe, has assessed all the positives and negatives and are Ok - if they 'fail' it will be by their own actions and decisions.
 
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Windows 10 1809 with an i7 8700k, explorer cpu does hit about 56%, maaan that is really hard to reproduce. I am curious what the use case scenario is on how to ran into the problem description you stated.

Can you provide more information about the system you are trying this on?
 
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deaedius said:
Windows 10 1809 with an i7 8700k, explorer cpu does hit about 56%, maaan that is really hard to reproduce. I am curious what the use case scenario is on how to ran into the problem description you stated.

Can you provide more information about the system you are trying this on?
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I ran across a random post on the internet where someone was complaining that their context menu was opening slowly so I got curious and started right clicking my desktop a bunch of times. For me it only takes 2 sequential right clicks before I notice my system slowing down. The more times I right click, the longer the period of sluggishness seems to last. I have an i9 9900k.

edit - Also only seems to be explorer related windows that slow down which makes sense considering explorer is taking the CPU hit. Non-explorer tasks such as my web browser are unaffected.
 
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TwistedMetalGear said:
I ran across a random post on the internet where someone was complaining that their context menu was opening slowly so I got curious and started right clicking my desktop a bunch of times. For me it only takes 2 sequential right clicks before I notice my system slowing down. The more times I right click, the longer the period of sluggishness seems to last. I have an i9 9900k.

edit - Also only seems to be explorer related windows that slow down which makes sense considering explorer is taking the CPU hit. Non-explorer tasks such as my web browser are unaffected.
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Can you try using AutoRuns and look at the "Explorer" tab to see what extensions you have installed? My random guess is that there's some plugin a program installed that registered a desktop context menu and isn't behaving well when repeatedly queried.
 
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TwistedMetalGear said:
It happens on a fresh install of Windows before any software is even installed. I'm hoping it's fixed when 1903 releases next month.
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The release version is available now if you wanted to give it a shot. You can get it from the Windows Insiders program. It’s still pre release in terms of time, but this version is the same as the one that will come down the pipes for general use in a month.
 
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TwistedMetalGear said:
I ran across a random post on the internet where someone was complaining that their context menu was opening slowly so I got curious and started right clicking my desktop a bunch of times. For me it only takes 2 sequential right clicks before I notice my system slowing down. The more times I right click, the longer the period of sluggishness seems to last. I have an i9 9900k.

edit - Also only seems to be explorer related windows that slow down which makes sense considering explorer is taking the CPU hit. Non-explorer tasks such as my web browser are unaffected.
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Man that is crazy. I did slow clicks and long clicks. Only time I found a weirdness was from dragging the mouse with a right click. Interesting find.
 
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Chalk it up to Windows 10 being forever in beta. How does that stupid Cortana speech go when installing windows 10? Modify it for a slogan for windows 10:

"A little malware here and a few bugs over there."
 
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