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Win2k for software

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So I'm trying to install a version of Pro/E 2000i2 that is legit but it doesn't work on the newer OSes. Needless to say I'm trying to save money so I'm giving Virtualbox a shot. Turns out that the "reboot cycling" is due to a "bug" in windows 2k. Fine and dandy, but the help suggests putting a delay on the interupts at 1msec. That didn't work, I had to go up to 5msec just to get win2k to install!!!! Wouldn't it have been easier to just have Virtualbox programmed to prompt the installer to impose this delay? Oh well, I guess with free software you are pretty much left to fend for yourself. No big deal but I just wanted to make everybody aware of this issue incase there is a search done. Keywords: Windows 2000, windows2000,
Ok. So now I've hit a bug. I can't find driver files from NVidia's main site that support an 8800gt in win2k. Will the XP drivers work? I'm going to try the oldest drivers that support the 8800gt and see how it works. Will report my work late to this thread.
 
Its hard to tell from your post, but to me it seems like your installing 2000 in Virtual Box as a virtual machine, if thats the case, you dont need Nvidia drivers for the 8800GT because your graphics card is a virtual one, not the actual one in the physical machine.
You need to install the virtual box graphics drivers
 
The basic gist of it is this:

You will never get the performance you're expecting with that software (workstation 3D rendering/modeling stuff, iirc) inside a VM, period. It's not designed for that, and even using Win2K inside a VM that has 3D support (VirtualBox is getting there, VMWare is a bit better but even so), you will never ever see the kind of bare metal 3D performance you will with a bare metal (meaning native) installation of Win2K.

The poster above is correct:

When you create a virtual machine with Win2K in VirtualBox, the entire "virtual PC" runs basically in a limited hardware environment. Yes, it does have a "virtual video card" but the driver is just translating calls and passing the info to your host OS's video card drivers to be displayed.

You install VirtualBox, you create a VM for Win2K, you install Win2K into that VM, after installation you go inside the VM and install the VirtualBox Additions which provides increased performance for the video display functionality and also far better mouse handling (as well as removing the requirement to "capture" the mouse cursor).

That's it, there are no other video drivers you install, ever. You don't install Nvidia or ATI drivers inside the VM because they can't "see" the host OS's video card - your real one. So installing them is just going to cause problems.

Follow the steps in the second paragraph above and roll with it. But expect drastically reduced performance for that 3D application you're attempting to use inside the VM, it's just the facts.
 
Thank you guys for your replies. I did install the extra's and like you said, it didn't need any extra drivers. One thing you say is that I should be installing the software natively but won't an E6300 CPU and 4670 GPU do better in a VM than natively in an old PIII 450 system?
I want this machine to run a newer OS, specifically XP 64-bit because it has 4GB and because newer software will be installed in a year or so. In the mean time I'm trying to get the most out of this Pro/E 2000i2 license.
I set the Virtualmachine up for enabling hardware 3d accel and it appears to be running smoothly on my test rig (E7200 OC 3.2GHz 3GB 8800GT). This test rig doesn't even have the hardware virtualization extensions though the system is running on the P45 chipset as apposed to the 945 that this other system will run.
I'll start a new thread but figured I'd ask here because it's the same system;
Will this virtual machine run faster/better on an E6300 or an E7400 stock for stock?
 
no, your physical video card wont do anything in a virtual machine, the virtual machine uses a virtual graphics card, the VM wont know if you have an oboard SIS video or Nvidia 9800GT with SLI
If its your only VM running on the physical machine, it probably wont run any faster on a different CPU
 
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