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AceTKK said:Why on earth would I? So the barrels in Unreal 2007 break up into more realistically moving pieces? Is that worth $300?
Until a spectacular new game comes out that relies on ultra-realistic physics to create a whole new plateau of immersion the idea of dedicated physics processors is a silly gimmick and a waste of money.
It will never be a mainstream commercial success unless a company like Id Software comes along to redefine the whole idea of computer gaming like they did with 3d accelerated shooters. If such an app does not come along then nobody (except the [H]ardest 1% of computer users like the ppl in this thread) will buy the hardware. If nobody has the hardware game devs won't design for it and, just like that, Ageia is dead.
Eastcoasthandle said:Remember, the whole purpose of physx is to bring a level of realism into gaming. Although I have to agree that Ageia must have a larger number of game titles under their belt I believe that will happen in due time.
However, if you had a choice of :
A. Ageia Physx Card
B. CF/SLI MB with 2 video cards that are going to simulate PPU chip
Which will you choose. Oh, it's easy to chose B when you already have a CF/SLI setup but how much better can it be if you added a Ageia Physx card? This remains to be seen. Before I take the plunge I need to see that card benched on 3DMark06 first. I want to know how much of a contribution this card makes to overall system performance. If all it does is generate the added FX that you would normally not see then it's really a waste of money.
I still do not find it necessary to buy a SLI/CF setup in order to create the same level of physx 1 card can do! It's inefficient, costly and ridicules IMHO. ATI/Nvidia plans to do the same appears to require you to buy SLI/CF at a premium which has already turned me off! Here is a link that explains more about it from Nvidia's POV.
I read it and they made some solid points (only if they used a GPU/PPU combo on the same PCB). Some of us have been guess for months now that ATI/Nvidia will make separate GPU/PPU on the same PCB but this does not appear to be the case now. What Nvidia appears to be doing is nothing more then a marketing gimmick to make you buy 2 video cards...nothing more nothing less. I say leave that aspect of gaming alone. Those that go SLI/CF do so out of luxury not necessity. Once you make SLI/CF a necessity then more will flock to the Ageia for $250 first before spending $500+ for a CF/SLI setup ($700+ if you don't have a SLI/CF board).
GotNoRice said:They have already implemented their engine in many upcoming games and you will be using that engine whether you have a physics card or not. There might be some eye-candy stuff that gets turned off but the physics of the game will still be controlled by the PhysX engine, hardware accelerated or not. 3dmark06 is an example of a 3d app/game that uses the Ageia PhysX tech. Obviously you dont need a PPU to run 3dmark06.
Narisatu said:a list of PhysX Optimized games. http://physx.ageia.com/titles.html
osalcido said:besides.. what money is there to be made from spending money on patching games that people already bought...
Haha, sadly, I don't have my hopes up for this.drizzt81 said:only if it boost my F@H by 1000 pts/day.
{NG}Fidel said:I will buy one, I dont like the idea of a GPU acting as a PPU.
magoo said:Ok. Ageia has the physx, currently with a handful of games. Are one or two games worht that extra investment???? I think not.
nVidia and ATI will most likely get on board with havokFX which currently is present in a multitude of game titles (not the FX, but havok physics engine) and it costs me nothing extra to have the graphics card produce physics effects.....if I want them......
I think I'll pass.
Bling said:Ati claims its offering is superioir. they say they can dedicate a card for physics even if its not in crossfire. you could use ati's technology even in an sli mobo or something like the asrock dual sata 2 that happens to already have an additional video slot. I dont know about you but i like the idea of buying a cheap budget ati card or using one that you have previously owned instead of buying a 300 dollar card. te x1600xt is only !150 dollars and it pretty much doubles the physx card in terms of ram and core clock etc
It would be awesome if any ATI SM2 card could be dedicated to physics, like a cheap PCI-E X300 or X600.Bling said:Ati claims its offering is superioir. they say they can dedicate a card for physics even if its not in crossfire.
pxc said:It would be awesome if any ATI SM2 card could be dedicated to physics, like a cheap PCI-E X300 or X600.
or a 7800GT and an X1300 I don't want to get an ATi card just to do thatBrent_Justice said:Any ATI XM 3.0 GPU can do it, X1300 etc....
This is possible:
1st Card ) An X1900 XTX doing your 3D
2nd Card ) Have an X1300 aiding in physics
mike_j_johnson said:I will be buying it for Unreal 07, Vanguard & to future proof my new machine.
I am just kinda pissed that it is not PCIe (just like the X-fi which also pissed me off). Also, now I have to deal with another fan & card that needs a power connection.
Doesnt PCIe supply more power to cards than PCI??