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Will nvidia EVER fix the shimmering problem?
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Yeah , I have seen the shimmering you speak of. Its slightly noticable , but when im playing I really dont care and it dosent bother me in the least. I think as stated before the shimmering is due to some opts in the Forceware drivers and if I turn all opts off I dont get shimmering. I love more FPS myself. FPS > IQ.
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My favourite ut2003 map is DM-asbestos, it's really nasty there with the metal-grid floor, like the one with the Keg-o-Health in it.
It isn't normal line aliasing, with my 9700p it never looked like that. It forms something of a moire pattern. Here is a thread showing it in CS:Source.
It isn't normal line aliasing, with my 9700p it never looked like that. It forms something of a moire pattern. Here is a thread showing it in CS:Source.
'musty 4.6L
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Looks like the shimmering you speak of is considered "running"! oh noes.
PikachuMan said:
I dun have the Moire'ing problem either
\[EDIT] I am using 65.73, HQ in CP, 8xAF in CP(only on games that don't have it in the options), 4xAA in CP (only on games that don't have it in the options), all opts disabled (due to HQ), and Vsync on @ 85Hz. I run most of my games at either 1280x1024 or 1600x1200 and I havn't noticed either of the effects.
According to that Beyond3d thread, there are fixes for the moire problem, but not any for the people who are still plauged by the aliasing problem. I guess I am lucky. I will say however my brother who is running the same settings as me on a eVGA 6800GT is having the aliasing problems, so I know it's existent.
well, I have to admit I don't see any of these issues on my 6800GT, but I've only tried out doom3, far cry, and SOF2 on it since I've only had it for 1 1/2 weeks.. guess I'll have to try out some more games and see if I find this problem, but so far I can't complain..
I also see this problem occurring in BF1942 and so far, this is the only game I can see the glitch in. It doesnt bother me at all really, but it IS there. Hard to explain, sort of a "sparkling" effect when moving. Recently I also upgraded to the 65.76 driver set from the 61.77's and it seems to have stopped it.
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I'm pretty sure they are the same problem, if the texture is a certain way, it just looks messy, not as distinct as seen in the screenshot from cs:source.
That's it, if you play around with the camera angle you'll find it makes a pattern like that.
'musty 4.6L
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Ok, wait, that "sparkling" effect I see on my 9800Pro....And no I'm not just saying that to defend nvidia, but I do see that on my card.
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The cs source picture is what im basing this on, this is a filtering problem, I dont see where shimering came from, I was looking for the wrong thing.
Try messing with trilinear optimizations / filter modes / ansiotropic filtering / mipmaps, maybe step down to bilinear to see if it removes it.
Im shooting in the dark though, it doesnt happen on my system, some definite weirdness is going on though with the texture lookups.
Try messing with trilinear optimizations / filter modes / ansiotropic filtering / mipmaps, maybe step down to bilinear to see if it removes it.
Im shooting in the dark though, it doesnt happen on my system, some definite weirdness is going on though with the texture lookups.
After reading this link "http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=35592&page=7&pp=15"" it appears that all 68xx cards are suffering from the shimmering problem. I too get this problem in all my games especially BF1942. All the texures on the floor seem to be crawling when you walk forward and backwards.
Those of you who are claming that your not experiencing non of these problems you eather must be drunk or high 24/7. Almost everyone who owns the 6800 card is aware of this problem. Click here to see an example of what people are reporting because it appears that some of you dont even know what we're all refering to. Watch and learn.
http://www.abu-el-mot.de/rs/bf.avi
http://www.abu-el-mot.de/rs/fl.avi
Those of you who are claming that your not experiencing non of these problems you eather must be drunk or high 24/7. Almost everyone who owns the 6800 card is aware of this problem. Click here to see an example of what people are reporting because it appears that some of you dont even know what we're all refering to. Watch and learn.
http://www.abu-el-mot.de/rs/bf.avi
http://www.abu-el-mot.de/rs/fl.avi
'musty 4.6L
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i get that on my 9800proHeavenX said:
[QUOTE='musty 4.6L]i get that on my 9800pro[/QUOTE]
I switched from 9800 pro to 6800 GT 1.5 months ago and noticed a huge difference in BF1942. At first i thought its because i forgot to add AF but even with 16xAF the textures on after the middle of the screen become "alive" and everything shimmers.
So i must say that i never got that with 9800 pro. I hope your not confusing yourself when AF is not applied with 9800pro and yes you can see where the AF ends and textures become blurry but this is a totally diff. problem. Musty , do you even have a 6800? just curious!!
I switched from 9800 pro to 6800 GT 1.5 months ago and noticed a huge difference in BF1942. At first i thought its because i forgot to add AF but even with 16xAF the textures on after the middle of the screen become "alive" and everything shimmers.
So i must say that i never got that with 9800 pro. I hope your not confusing yourself when AF is not applied with 9800pro and yes you can see where the AF ends and textures become blurry but this is a totally diff. problem. Musty , do you even have a 6800? just curious!!
'musty 4.6L
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No, and I never said I had a 6800, I'm simply saying that the videos you guys have shown me show exactly what I'm getting on my 9800pro, and I always thought it was normal.HeavenX said:
DropTech said:
Just because they arent aware of the problem or that they cant see it, doesnt mean it isnt there..
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You can just tell buy looking all these people in the thread that cant tell the difference after watching these videos... not everybody are video quality experts
Emret said:
If you read my earlier posts you would know that I know there is a problem. But many people actually do not have it. I have seen it in action, one of the cards I mess with on a daily basis has it. My Ultra does not. I feel for those that do because it shouldn't be there and I hope it is quickly fixed.
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HeavenX said:
Or they might simply not be as insanely picky about IQ as you. Look, I am a video junkie too, and I don't think this problem qualifies as "insanely picky" (yes i just quoted myself.) But I said this to illustrate that you are being an ass.
Don't call everyone who isn't quite as picky as you "drunk or high 24/7" simply because they haven't noticed this problem.
Personally, I think the name stinks, b/c shimmering implies some sort of white light reflecting off of objects (at least to me anyways) and the problem is evidently related to ailiasing along the edges of objects and textures. I simply took this to mean that NVidia's image quality wasn't quite as good as ATI's (which is stellar.)
Oh well, I am probably just drunk or high....
Yes, im glad some of you are seeing it now. This is a roblem that has phased the 68xx series since the begg, and for some reason no reviews seem to even mention it. IMO it looks absolutely horrible, and makes some games like Painkiller unplayable. Nothing gets rid of it, sans upping mod Bias, and thats no solution.
The amount that occurs varies by drivers, so i do not think this is a hardware bug. Someone please bring this to Nvidias attention, as it MUST be addressed.
My old 9700 did not have this problem, nor my brothers X800.
The amount that occurs varies by drivers, so i do not think this is a hardware bug. Someone please bring this to Nvidias attention, as it MUST be addressed.
My old 9700 did not have this problem, nor my brothers X800.
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I get shimmering like that with my X800 and my Ti4200 in BF1942. I think it's a problem with the game itself.HeavenX said: