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WikiLeaks Founder Arrested

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Whatever, I've been banned from this site 20 times at least and I am still here. I will always be here so am not afraid of being banned for speaking the truth, ever. And the reason I will always be here is because I am smarter than most of you morons.
 
Smart, eh? Banned 20 times, huh. Right.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expected a different result each time."

Or in your case, it could be called "gluttony for punishment" I suppose.

Smarter... that's pretty funny, seriously.
 
Bobthecoolguy said:
To all "KILL HIM" people:

Please show proof of any harm caused because of wikileaks since it's inception.

Thankyou.
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1400 people killed in Nigeria because of wikileak leaking information on the corruption there and displacing over 200,000 people. You know who said this? Assange himself. That harmful enough for you?
 
obs said:
So all our troops in Afghanistan are there to prevent genocide?
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Reading Comprehension.

I never said that. I said that actions can be taken even though some people will disagree.

The fact that people disagree is not a valid reason not to act.
 
Wow, all this, and almost no actual mention of what he is accused of doing. Rape.
Everyone is going into the politics of it and it really could just be a case of some dumb ass taking the pussy after being told to buzz off.
Sweden is not known for being some US puppet state, so I have every reason to beleive his being wanted for questioning there in regards to a rape have nothing to do with, well, whatever it is he does, and everything to do with a couple girls saying he took what they were NOT offering.
 
GORANKAR said:
Wow, all this, and almost no actual mention of what he is accused of doing. Rape.
Everyone is going into the politics of it and it really could just be a case of some dumb ass taking the pussy after being told to buzz off.
Sweden is not known for being some US puppet state, so I have every reason to beleive his being wanted for questioning there in regards to a rape have nothing to do with, well, whatever it is he does, and everything to do with a couple girls saying he took what they were NOT offering.
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I agree with this point. People tend to look past the rape allegations and go "This is obviously a set up by (fill in dark secret evil organization)". Is it far out of the realm that he is just a power hungry dipshit that thinks no one will say no to him? Oh right you know who that reminds me of? Hollywood, politicians, rich people, and any other type of people in position of influence. Oh right, he's already demonstrated he's a power-hungry dipshit. Bragging about how his leaks were justified even if it killed thousands of people, bragging that the Secretary of State should resign at his demand, bragging that if anyone dare goes after him he'll extort them with more leaks. This guy's best found guilty and in the slammer.
 
Conker said:
This is the beginning of the end. World war 3 ;). I think the leaks are necessary. Too many people letting the government live behind the scenes and disconnect with the people. Even if people are at risk theres always going to be risks when exposing things. Government lies so much. If they didn't lie so much then people wouldn't even be questioning their answers. Pretty sure a war is going to start eventually. We are all going to die from the radio active fall out(Cancer, free radicals). We are on the brink right now. Close to 2012 also ;). Nothing has really been targeted from the leaks. This is like forbidden archaeology, area51 stuff. Government use to be one with the people. Now its like another world isolated from society while they control everything we go through not knowing what its like because they live a life of luxury with private jets and the like. Think about the big picture.
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You amuse me. I've read this paragraph three times and still can't figure out what you're trying to say.

Can you try again please? In English?
Pretty sure a war is going to start eventually.
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Yes there will be another war. Are you trying to say something specific?
We are all going to die from the radio active fall out(Cancer, free radicals).
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Radiation = free radicals? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Are you just hitting the keyboard randomly?
2012
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Oh my...
forbidden archaeology, area51
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Even more oh my...
Think about the big picture.
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So what are you saying the big picture is? Or are you just trying to be silly with your conspiracy/class warfare BS?

I can't take any of your post seriously. Try again.
 
GORANKAR said:
Wow, all this, and almost no actual mention of what he is accused of doing. Rape.
Everyone is going into the politics of it and it really could just be a case of some dumb ass taking the pussy after being told to buzz off.
Sweden is not known for being some US puppet state, so I have every reason to beleive his being wanted for questioning there in regards to a rape have nothing to do with, well, whatever it is he does, and everything to do with a couple girls saying he took what they were NOT offering.
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Neither of the girls said they were raped.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
Neither of the girls said they were raped.
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What country are you from? Even in the United States, no means no. When the women says no, it's sexual assault at least. I can't tell my girlfriend "Oh come on, you can do it" even if she's told me no ten times.
 
Oh for fucks sake all these fucking haters out there. Fucking zealot patriots defending your country over what its meant to stand for. Fucking same people that goes "china? hey they're oppressing their people, ra ra ra political censorship... america fuck yea!". fucks sake they must put some whack shit in your water over there with higher concentration in the south that makes you brainwashed and dumb, probably why texas had to fry all their retards... too many birth defects. fucking terrorized by your own government so that you're so scared of muslims that you'll let any shit fly, fuckin didn't learn your lesson when the truth about the cold war was available. your government lies to you, they're meant to represent you but they fucking don't they represent corporations. corporations like bell helicopter i mean like shit how bout shedding some light on how your government assassinated your own president? i mean that whole "a magic bullet killed kennedy" shit just don't fly. yeah islam is spreading, but its spreading organically and i don't think going into these countries, mortaring the shit outta these people's houses killing women and children to greedily secure resources is really making these people find solstice in the american way of life and praising jesus. yeah islamification scares me too there's a heap of beliefs that don't match mine but it don't scare me as much as the USA flailing their limbs in the throws of death. i don't know what's more oppressive USA and the patriot act or sharia law, i don't fucking like either but i mean at least muslims have more respect for animals and the earth. face it decadent western lifestyles are fucking up the planet.
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gaspah said:
fuck... fuck... america fuck yea!"... fucks sake... fucking... fuckin... fucking... "a magic bullet killed kennedy".. fucking... fucking...
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This can be summed up this way.
 
The original reports of this sex situation were that it was purely consensual, that both of the women involved admitted as such into a legal record when questioned, and it was a non-issue past that point.

Things changed when all the leaks really started and that's when the warlockhunt (ok, a twist on the phrase witchhunt since this is a guy we're talkin' about) began. Ever since that happened, the women involved have not made public statements in any respect that I've been able to track down and what we "know" is coming from so-called law enforcement and attorneys.

While other countries don't adhere to our own principles of "Innocent until proven guilty," the concept holds for the most part - if and when he's actually tried and possible found guilty of breaking some law (whatever that may actually be) will be when things change.

Of course, nobody has ever been framed for such things, especially in light of all the other shit going on. </sarcasm>

Having consensual sex without a condom is a crime over there? Wow... I'm sure glad I have no intentions of ever leaving the US. Here I was thinking this country was fairly well fucked up with some dumbass laws and then I read about that particularly ridiculous one but...

It's their ass-backwards country I suppose, let them deal with it.
 
Bahamut said:
The original reports of this sex situation were that it was purely consensual, that both of the women involved admitted as such into a legal record when questioned, and it was a non-issue past that point.
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Did you skip past the part where once the condom broke or when he refused to wear one, the women were distressed and didn't want to proceed? And one of them told him to get the fuck out of her home? Oh right, surprise sex is legal? Since when?
 
Kaitian said:
Did you skip past the part where once the condom broke or when he refused to wear one, the women were distressed and didn't want to proceed? And one of them told him to get the fuck out of her home? Oh right, surprise sex is legal? Since when?
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Again, that's not what the women went on record saying the first time they spoke of the issues. A magical twist of fate happened (aka the leaks started) and then it was "oh, really, wonder what we can get from this..." and suddenly a change in the statements appeared.

People keep looking at this from the primarily US-point of view based on our legal system (at least for the most part). Laws in other countries are different, regardless of what may be right or wrong based on our laws and our upbringing over here in the States.

That aspect is clouding all this to fucking hell and back for most everyone.
 
Bahamut said:
Again, that's not what the women went on record saying the first time they spoke of the issues. A magical twist of fate happened (aka the leaks started) and then it was "oh, really, wonder what we can get from this..." and suddenly a change in the statements appeared.

People keep looking at this from the primarily US-point of view based on our legal system (at least for the most part). Laws in other countries are different, regardless of what may be right or wrong based on our laws and our upbringing over here in the States.

That aspect is clouding all this to fucking hell and back for most everyone.
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Now you're diverting from the whole point of the allegation. Our legal system doesn't allow surprise sex either and you seem to be skipping past that point. "Oh he's being prosecuted because he's a high-profile person". Is your logic is that every fucking celebrity out there should not be prosecuted because it will be high-profiled? What about that director who is evading US law and refusing to serve his sentence for the raping of a 16 year old girl? He should get a pass because he's a celebrity too?
 
Kaitian said:
What country are you from? Even in the United States, no means no. When the women says no, it's sexual assault at least. I can't tell my girlfriend "Oh come on, you can do it" even if she's told me no ten times.
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They didn't say no to him. Where are you reading they did? It was considered rape in Sweden because it was unprotected sex and neither woman knew he was having relations with another woman. It was consentual. You're already on the internet, there isn't any reason for you not to know that.
 
Kaitian said:
Now you're diverting from the whole point of the allegation. Our legal system doesn't allow surprise sex either and you seem to be skipping past that point. "Oh he's being prosecuted because he's a high-profile person". Is your logic is that every fucking celebrity out there should not be prosecuted because it will be high-profiled? What about that director who is evading US law and refusing to serve his sentence for the raping of a 16 year old girl? He should get a pass because he's a celebrity too?
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Can you stop that shit? You clearly haven't read up on this subject.
 
Kaitian said:
Now you're diverting from the whole point of the allegation. Our legal system doesn't allow surprise sex either and you seem to be skipping past that point. "Oh he's being prosecuted because he's a high-profile person". Is your logic is that every fucking celebrity out there should not be prosecuted because it will be high-profiled? What about that director who is evading US law and refusing to serve his sentence for the raping of a 16 year old girl? He should get a pass because he's a celebrity too?
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You seem to be missing the basis: the only thing we have to go on is what the women accused him of, and that is what the problem is because they offered up one story originally and then they altered it to suit their needs based on the changes in the entire situation (the leaks, his newfound massive worldwide fame, etc).

You said it yourself, it's an allegation, and a pretty shitty one at best considering they've backtracked on their original statements and changed them mid-stream.

They said one thing, then they said something else. I have no reason to attach any significance to their second statement based on the first and the sudden change after Assange got the notoriety because of the leaks.

If the women are outright lying then there was no "surprise sex" or anything else.

I attach no credibility to the women's secondary statement after the first one at this point.

That's my basis. It has nothing to do with celebrity except that the two women are certainly now looking at book deals...
 
Bahamut said:
You seem to be missing the basis: the only thing we have to go on is what the women accused him of, and that is what the problem is because they offered up one story originally and then they altered it to suit their needs based on the changes in the entire situation (the leaks, his newfound massive worldwide fame, etc).

You said it yourself, it's an allegation, and a pretty shitty one at best considering they've backtracked on their original statements and changed them mid-stream.

They said one thing, then they said something else. I have no reason to attach any significance to their second statement based on the first and the sudden change after Assange got the notoriety because of the leaks.

If the women are outright lying then there was no "surprise sex" or anything else.

I attach no credibility to the women's secondary statement after the first one at this point.

That's my basis. It has nothing to do with celebrity except that the two women are certainly now looking at book deals...
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If they are outright lying, then I would be of a different opinion. But until then, I am a defender of women in any case whatsoever.
 
Kaitian said:
If they are outright lying, then I would be of a different opinion. But until then, I am a defender of women in any case whatsoever.
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Uhmmm... right.

He says one thing, they say something else. There's no proof of any kind whatsoever at this exact instance: no DNA, no video, no audio, it is only his word against theirs.

Who's telling the truth and who's lying? Can you tell? Just from him saying "No, it didn't happen in the way those women are claiming" and the women saying "Yes, it happened exactly the way we say it happened, at least that's what we're saying now."

I wonder...

If I could prove to you without a shadow of a doubt right now that 2 + 2 = 149, how badly would that fuck up your entire grasp of this reality, eh?
 
LeninGHOLA said:
Wow, you didn't even read what you linked.
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What is there to miss? I read the allegations against him but they also included theories of why maybe this could have happened. Other than that, I don't fucking care if you're a defender of AssAnger.

As a result of this conversation, Sarah reportedly phoned an acquaintance of Assange and said that she wanted him to leave her apartment. (He refused to do so, and maintains that she only asked him to leave three days later, on the Friday of that week.)

How must Sarah have felt to +discover that the man she’d taken to her bed three days before had already taken up with another woman? +Furious? Jealous? Out for revenge? Perhaps she merely felt aggrieved for a fellow woman in distress.

Having taken stock of their options for a day or so, on Friday, August 20, Sarah and Jessica took drastic action.

They went together to a Stockholm police station where they said they were seeking advice on how to proceed with a complaint by Jessica against Assange.
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That's the writer's opinion on what their feelings could have been.

Now when did the whole bullshit of 260,000 being released? Just recently. Now the most high profile case prior to that incident was the "Collateral Murder" video which was posted back in April.
 
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