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Widescreen TV resolution question

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Draax

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Recently I acquired a second 7900gt in order to use SLI. I am big into S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and have started playing oblivion again. The 7900s in SLI allow me to now game at resolutions like 1920x1080.

My computer monitor does not support anything over 1280x1024, but my Samsung DLP can do up to 1920x1080. My TV allows me to change the screen format to "Wide PC" when the resolution is set to 1280x720 , which reduces the picture size to 92%, so there is no overdraw off of the screen. Unfortunatly "wide PC" is not an option when gaming above 1280x720, I believe because 720p is the native resolution of the TV.

So my question is, is there a program that will allow me to reduce the screen size, or change the viewport size (not custom resolutions as those tend not to work)? So that I can see the HUD at resolutions above 720p?

EDIT : Oh yeah my computer is connected to my TV through DVI.
 
use powerstrip for custom resolutions and overscan correction.

although I must say that 720p is a better picture than 1080i especially for gaming.. unless you are referring to 1080p which I dont think you are because you stated that default res is xxx X 720.


either way, powerstrip..

btw.. what is your model number on the DLP?
 
I will try that program.

I hear people say that 720p is better then 1080i for gaming all the time, and I personally disagree. I realize the difference in how the picture is refreshed, my eyes simply do not notice that much of a difference between the two, especially when sitting 10+ feet away from the screen. I found Half-Life 2 at 1080i to look much better then 720p. Then again my eyes have started to suck recently, and I may well need glasses soon.

HL-P4663W is the model number.
 
understood.. it is all about personal preference when it comes right down to it.
 
Draax said:
Recently I acquired a second 7900gt in order to use SLI. I am big into S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and have started playing oblivion again. The 7900s in SLI allow me to now game at resolutions like 1920x1080.

My computer monitor does not support anything over 1280x1024, but my Samsung DLP can do up to 1920x1080. My TV allows me to change the screen format to "Wide PC" when the resolution is set to 1280x720 , which reduces the picture size to 92%, so there is no overdraw off of the screen. Unfortunatly "wide PC" is not an option when gaming above 1280x720, I believe because 720p is the native resolution of the TV.

So my question is, is there a program that will allow me to reduce the screen size, or change the viewport size (not custom resolutions as those tend not to work)? So that I can see the HUD at resolutions above 720p?

EDIT : Oh yeah my computer is connected to my TV through DVI.
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Your DLP can't do 1920x1080, its native resolution is 1280x720 so anything higher will just scale down to 720p.
 
If the tv has a native res of 720p, then that's it.

It can't project any more dots at 1080i than at 720p. It just scales it down.

Back when the hd standards were just getting going they came out with 720p and 1080i spec.

Someone decided it would be very bad marketing to not claim 1080i support just because it couldn't display an image from a source at 1080i.

It's still 720p though . . .


For example, we are all familiar with lcd's. They have a FIXED number of pixels.

All of the midrange tv lcd's are 1366x768. Note that every one of these say they DO 1080i.

How do they make 720 rows of dots into 1080? They don't. It's just marketing.
 
This is true, however if I play at 1080i, when the TV downscales to 720p its gets ride of jaggies, which is nice in games Like STALKER, and some games which do not allow AA and HDR lighting at the same time, like Oblivion.

Currently this is moot however, as there appears to be some bug with me outputing to my TV with the 2 cards in SLI. If I try just one card, its works fine, but with the cards in SLI I am having major problems (yes I did turn off dual monitor as it is not supported under SLI).
 
This is a good point. Since I started running on a Dell 3007 (2560x1600), I have found that I don't think I need AA anymore.

I am pretty sure that I had my last gaming box hooked up to my Sony SXRD via hdmi. That box was on sli'd 7800gtx's.

I'd say it's a driver thing.



Do you think it's a problem with having sli'd cards output at 16:9 rather than 16:10 or 4:3?
 
esturk said:
This is a good point. Since I started running on a Dell 3007 (2560x1600), I have found that I don't think I need AA anymore.

I am pretty sure that I had my last gaming box hooked up to my Sony SXRD via hdmi. That box was on sli'd 7800gtx's.

I'd say it's a driver thing.



Do you think it's a problem with having sli'd cards output at 16:9 rather than 16:10 or 4:3?
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I cant fool around with it, until I get home from work, but this is what has happening. Stalker would start up in 800x600 on the TV no matter what resolution it was set to previously. When I tried to change the resolution from 800x600 to anything, the screen would go black and my comp would hard lock, I couldn't alt-tab, alt-f4, ctrl-alt-delete, anything.
 
yea if you feed your tv 1280x720p then it displays it without change - or with minimal changes due to that 'wide pc' option you have

when you feed it 1920x1080 interlaced then the scaler kicks in and changes it to 1280x720p

either way it is indeed all about personal preference

i have several sets capable of hd from big widescreen monitors to reference quality crt hd sets [the sony xbr960n is still the picture quality king!!!!]

anyway, its all what you like - but normally for speed reasons you feed a set what it wants natively

that way there is less conversion going on and hence less loss

specifically important in a game like guitar hero 2 when timing is everything :)
 
oh to the OP's original question...

powerstrip is the way to go - but...

if your dlp is a 720p set - then game at 1280x720

that way you can turn on all the candy and not worry about lag..

you can use powerstrip to feed the set whatever it will handle [im guessing, 480i/p 720p and 1080i]

but why bother?

powerstrip is just something else that has to run and can crash and etc

gaming shouldnt be over complicated

take any lcd set and set it to something besides its native - your result?

fried crap balls...

same with most display technologies [crt being the happy exception]

so with dlp and its horrible timing issues do to all those spinning mirrors?

yea, feed it a steady diet of 1280x720 - it'll thank you for it later
 
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