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Why P6701?

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xx-Thor-xx

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I keep getting these things on my SMP client and good gravy are they slow. Why do they take so astonishingly long.. my typical TPF for the last few days has been about 6 or so minutes give or take a few seconds and these things regularly average about 12. Do they usually take a lot longer than the rest of the WU's? or is there something wrong I should be looking for?
 
These WU are slow for everybody, nothing wrong on your end. As for why they are slow or not valued higher, I can't help you there.
 
12min TPF on your 860?

anyhow, ya there are a bunch of them, and well no one wants them, they are the red headed step child
 
One of my I7 920 became unstable recently, so i let it runs at stock speed last night. I was amazed at the TPF I got from 6701 WU .. 9mi 56sec / frame ... while it took like 10+ min/frame when my CPU @ 4Ghz :eek::eek:

Hate those 6701/02 WUs .. :D:D
 
The biggest machine I run gets 6 + minutes tpf on those and that machine normally turns an SMP unit in every update on hardfolding stats (3 hours). That is a quad socket quad core box running 2.93 GHz with 40 gigs of ram. OF course it doesn't compare to the power of those overclocked SR2's running hex cores but very little compares to those beasts!!!!
 
my 6701 average time is 8:30.....before my NB overclock
 
It is a conspiracy! The 6701/6702 WU's were created to slow down folding. They were running out of good WU and needed to stall while they created more. I proclaim this to be fact since BillR, the official fact checker of the [H]orde, isn't around lately to challenge me. :)
 
heh
maybe the power companies paid Stanford to make slower work units to increase demand for electricity during the months of September and October (otherwise slow months in the electricity business)
 
xx-Thor-xx said:
Points don't really bother me as much as seeing a 12min TPF lol
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lol be happy with 12 minutes.. my phenom II 940 gets 16:30 TPF's on those WU's..

nwrtarget said:
heh
maybe the power companies paid Stanford to make slower work units to increase demand for electricity during the months of September and October (otherwise slow months in the electricity business)
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lol would funny but no.. the 6701/2's have been around for over a year now.. they just periodically force everyone to run these WU's then no one gets them for a month or so and the cycle starts all over..
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
lol would funny but no.. the 6701/2's have been around for over a year now.. they just periodically force everyone to run these WU's then no one gets them for a month or so and the cycle starts all over..
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Over a year? :confused:
 
I believe my gulftown@3.6ghz gets a TPF of 5:30 on those, but my Bloomfield@3.46ghz gets nearly a 9min TPF which just sucks. It actually wouldn't be so bad if they would fix the server problem as those status 503 errors seem to accompany these WU's due to the servers getting overloaded.

I personally would rather see those 6040 and 6041's as they are a lot more exciting, even if they are even slower.
 
13:23 average TPF on my Phenom II 940BE. I hate them, since the bulk of my points are smp clients. My poor little HTPC had one the other day, and managed 27:37 TPF
 
They are sent from Stanford to make one appreciate other work units more, and to reinforce the lesson that Life Is Not Fair. ;)
 
Vediovus said:
13:23 average TPF on my Phenom II 940BE. I hate them, since the bulk of my points are smp clients. My poor little HTPC had one the other day, and managed 27:37 TPF
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what is your overclock at and are you using ddr2 800 or 1066 ram? trying to figure out if my shitty performance was from using ddr2 800 or the fact that im running at 1ghz HTT even though that shouldnt matter..
 
Currently running it @ 3.6ghz with 800 ram. The ram is rated for 1066, but I've never had any luck actually running it at that speed. HTT and NB are both running @ 1800.
 
Vediovus said:
Currently running it @ 3.6ghz with 800 ram. The ram is rated for 1066, but I've never had any luck actually running it at that speed. HTT and NB are both running @ 1800.
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arg wtf how are you running a 3 minute faster TPF then me on those WU's.. even at 3.6ghz i only did like 15 minute TPF's.. maybe the HTT has a bigger effect then i thought.. im guessing you are running ddr2 800 4-4-4-12 timing?
 
I try to look at these WUs like.. "This is the WU that cures it all. I have to finish it!!!"
 
5-5-5-18. Are you runing any gpu clients at all on that machine? I'm only running smp, and that could explain my faster TPF.
 
Vediovus said:
5-5-5-18. Are you runing any gpu clients at all on that machine? I'm only running smp, and that could explain my faster TPF.
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yeah was running 2 gpu clients + the smp client.. if that rams rated for ddr2 1066 @ 5-5-5-15 or 18 timing it should be able to do 800@ 4-4-4-12 timing @ 2.1v(or what ever the rated voltage is for 1066)
 
I've noticed that my PPD has dropped slightly as of late, so I was poking around a bit. I saw in HFM that I've been getting a bunch of P6701 WU's. They give more points, but appear to slow down my production somewhat.

Just me?
 
The 6701 is a really really hard unit to do.....tkakes a wile, and kills your PPD....
 
Ah, thanks guys. I can live with it - though I'm not happy about it - so long as I know it affects us all equally. Work has to get done, I guess.
 
ya, none of us like it, but we live with it....grudgingly though...
 
I try to remind myself the quicker we buzzsaw through these things, the faster we'll get better WUs. Same thing happened back when there were new A1's coming out in *nix and everyone was mad that they were getting those instead of the A2 bigadv's. Although....between the two I'd much rather have the 6701's than those single core/non-SMP optimized A1's from back then. :eek:

I pretty much figure my q9450 and my e8400 both will pretty much only get 6701/6702's....it's really only when my SR-2 gets them that I get bummed out. At least it eats them up though. ;)
 
I don't mind crunching those chewy units so those with a SR-2 will get bigadv... We gonna do everything to get rid of them for the future good of the [H]orde ;)
 
Hopefully once we've crunched them we never see their like again!(but i'm not holding my breath)
 
TYoda said:
Hopefully once we've crunched them we never see their like again!(but i'm not holding my breath)
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If the same people are in charge of "benchmarking", then yes, there will always be a 2684 for every 2692.

Roll up roll up! Every bigadv rated the same speed. Get them here! :rolleyes:
 
I checked earlier today and ALL of my SMP systems were running 6701. I only run Linux so this is actually somewhat common for me.

Right now I am churning three SMP full time and two classics full time. I did have to reduce my utilization on my quad socket dual core AMD machine to give more time to an application that lives there now but it isn't that significant. I have managed to pretty well maintain full use of the monster. MUWUHHAHAHHAH

We are definitely seeing lots of 6701's right now though as my updates aren't as frequent as they were.
 
Okay, now this is just getting ridiculous. Of my 8 boxes, 6 are running 6701's, 1 is 2684 and the other is 6053. The 6701's just keep queuing...

Did I do something wrong? Have I angered the Folding gods in some way?

Keith
 
ya....i hear that, i had 1 day off of them, and cursed myself
 
because Pande Group hates us. or because we have all turned into point whores because of F@H's dumb point system and cant handle losing some points.. though im going with the second part on this one.. :p
 
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A points whore, me????!!!

/takes off wig and throws it at sirmonkey1985 :D
 
tjmagneto said:
A points whore, me????!!!

/takes off wig and throws it at sirmonkey1985 :D
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lol just face we are. back before the bonus points we knew exactly how many points we were getting for every WU. we knew how much we would get when we added a system and how much we would lose when a system was offline. back then it was all about how many WU's you could complete in a single day. now with the bonus points its all about how many points you can get with a single system and when we lose 5-6k points while still making 60k+ on the same system we all go ape shit about it.
 
Yeah, its like folding a mini-bigadv unit but for only a 10th of the points...they suck. I think everyone is drawing them at the moment. I hope that once we've crunched them, we never see their like again.
 
TYoda said:
Yeah, its like folding a mini-bigadv unit but for only a 10th of the points...they suck. I think everyone is drawing them at the moment. I hope that once we've crunched them, we never see their like again.
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i think we are all hoping for that. i hate losing 2500-3k points on these damn WU's because they take for ever to run. for every hour of BFBC2 i play i lose about 200 points since i have to turn the client off to play.
 
I pretty much have them on every machine I have running. It looks like they're just trying to get as many out as possible. As of the last server stats update, there was 34.5k of them assigned.
 
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