WHS Veil - System Build.

tbrocato

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Hey guys...I want to know if the system below I plan on building will work well for WHS Vail. I have am kind of undecided on how high end I need to go on the ram. I am trying to keep the cost down. Let me know what ya'll think !


ASUS M4A78LT-M LE AM3 AMD 780L Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH

APEVIA X-QPACK2-NW-BK/500 Black Aluminum Body/ Front Mask MicroATX Desktop Computer Case 500W Power Supply

AMD Sempron 140 Sargas 2.7GHz Socket AM3 45W Single-Core Processor SDX140HBGQBOX

Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
 
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I have 4gb of ram in mine and it's way more than enough.

Also, keep in mind Vail isn't released yet. It has bugs and performance issues. I am running it on my server now.

With a micro case you won't be getting many hard drives in that.....
Do you really need to run home server software? What are your needs exactly?
 
Yeah, definitely spend a little extra and get a quality power supply. The last thing you want to do is replace system parts because the PSU screwed them up after just a few months of using the system. Get a Corsair, Thermaltake, or Antec. Those are pretty good.

I also suggest getting 2GB of Ram and putting the extra money toward a dual-core cpu instead of the single core.
 
Another vote against that PSU, I actually just did a build where the client dropped off the case he wanted - an X-Qpack. I told him the PSU was not going to be used, as I've had to deal with them in the past and had nothing but problems.
 
if you are going to use the streaming video with vail the single core CPU is not going to cut it.

with CnQ enabled a x4 is not going to use a ton of power and will give you the ability to transcode video on the go...
 
Is Beta 2 less of a processor hog than Beta 1?

my Atom NM10 (1.6Ghz) just could not run the first Beta properly, and I had 4Gb of DDR2.
 
Just some thoughts. First an older WGS Vail/ CPU article explaining why the Sempron 140 won't cut it.

Here's a recent look at the Athlon II X3 445 Rana CPU which, quite frankly, doesn't cost much more but you can see the difference in performance. Then again, in AMD land, you can get a fourth core in the Athlon II X4 640 Propus for a few dollars more. Personally, unless $10 is a big deal, I would go with the X4 640.

If you want to do Vail transcoding, skip the Atom and Sempron systems and spend a few dollars more. Really the $50-60 is not much for over 4x the performance. It isn't like people tend to run less stuff on their home servers over time (in general) or things require less compute power over time (excluding specialized hardware). On idle power the X4 640 only adds a few watts because we are a few generations into multi-core computing and Intel/ AMD have figured out how to idle cores using very little power.
 
if you are going to use the streaming video with vail the single core CPU is not going to cut it.

with CnQ enabled a x4 is not going to use a ton of power and will give you the ability to transcode video on the go...

My single P4 did fine. But then my server was never transcoding. My HTPC plays the video natively. Maybe not true streaming but it worked on 1080p bluray rips.
 
I would def post what your intentions are for the server...is it just holding onto files? streaming over the network? backing up other computers?

If its going to be streaming and/or backing up other machines I doubt you'd want to use that cpu as it honestly will not cut it - You'd most likely have problems streaming and the machine would be extremely slow. As for the ram - I too would put that money elsewhere. Lots of ram is good, but not really needed 2 gigs should be more than enough.

Also keep in mind that using a micro case, micro psu and a micro mobo seriously limits your ability to upgrade down the line. Although you may not think your going to need to anytime soon - when you get used to streaming sometimes to multiple computers you'll soon realize that you might want to add storage, upgrade to gigabit etc.

My first WHS was a celeron D dual core I picked up for $50, with a micro mobo and 2 gigs of ram in a huge case. It was horribly slow, and although it happened to work out good for its time it was time for an upgrade. It now has a phenom II quad core with 4 gigs of ram, and roughly 6tb of storage.(It runs server 08 with hyper-v running WHS)
 
If its going to be streaming and/or backing up other machines I doubt you'd want to use that cpu as it honestly will not cut it - You'd most likely have problems streaming and the machine would be extremely slow. As for the ram - I too would put that money elsewhere. Lots of ram is good, but not really needed 2 gigs should be more than enough.

While I generally agree, unless you are streaming AND transcoding on the server, the Sempron 140 is fine. 100MB/s through 1 GigE port in/out is not an issue on that CPU, it is when you do something other than a simple transfer.

Backups are a bit tricky. If your backup is simple copy files to server, no big deal. If you are relying upon the server's CPU to do dedupe (this is a good feature) then that would be a good reason to get something beefier.
 
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