Which Build???

Jedikid · Dec 24, 2007

mateasluzes · Dec 24, 2007

what's your budget?

Jedikid · Dec 24, 2007

the budget's alittle over 900 for just hardware.

mateasluzes · Dec 24, 2007

okay, hold on tight i'll make two builds

Jedikid · Dec 24, 2007

okay, thanks

mateasluzes · Dec 24, 2007

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773

MSI K9A2 CF-F AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130138
with this motherboard you'll be able to upgrade your cpu later on (say a year or two from now) because amd plans on keeping their chipsets the same

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820231098
and in any case, you can go crossfire if you go with this board

CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX ATX12V V2.2 450W Power Supply 90 - 264 V UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

LG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 10X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache ATAPI / E-IDE Super Multi DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136117

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140

Antec P182 Gun Metal Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025&Tpk=p182

SAPPHIRE 100215L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102713

Total: $903.91

that's the AMD build and it's a really solid system, especially when you take into account that you can upgrade to phenom and crossfire when you get the money for it

mateasluzes · Dec 24, 2007

personally, i'd go with amd because of the upgrading option without having to buy a new motherboard and processor

but i'll make a build for intel as well

Jedikid · Dec 24, 2007

yeah this computer is probably not gonna to be upgrade this are work computers. we're trying to see how's builds is the best. hahah i should be a sleep but ....

oh and thanks

mateasluzes · Dec 24, 2007

Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 Allendale 2.2GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115031

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820231098

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX ATX12V V2.2 550W Power Supply 90 - 264 V UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

LG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 10X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache ATAPI / E-IDE Super Multi DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136117

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262

EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318

Antec P182 Gun Metal Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025&Tpk=p182

Total: $895.91

if you're worried about the cpu speed being lower than the one you had originally planned out for, don't worry about it because you can overclock it to be faster than the E6550 if you want to

in both builds the video cards are better, though sacrificing some GB off the hard drive and getting a not-so-expensive but rather excellent heatsink & fan

again, it's your choice, but i'd go with the AMD build because of the upgrading compatibilities in the future

what are you using the system for anyway?

Jedikid · Dec 24, 2007

this computer is for multitasking, major data transferring, burning dvd's, streaming music, and internet. Sometime these get random mp3 hooked to them too. And will have a dual montior setup

oh and we're not able to ocerclock anything in it. it;s stupid.

Dangman · Dec 24, 2007

First of all, ditch the Thermaltake PSU. Among PC enthusiasts, that particular PSU is a piece of shit. It’s really not worth its price considering its low quality and inefficiency. I recommend getting the XClio Goodpower 500W Power Supply instead. Cheaper but it offers a bit more power where you need it and it’s of much better quality since it is built by Channel Well Tech, makers of quality power supplies. The Thermaltake PSU you chose was built by Sirtec, a company not known for good power supplies.
XClio Goodpower 500W PSU - $50

You’re probably wondering what I meant when I said that the XClio Goodpower 500W PSU offered more power than the Thermaltake Purepower 500W right? In case you didn’t know, wattage doesn’t mean as much these days. What matters most is where those watts are being delivered, the voltage rails. For current PCs, it’s all about how much amps are on the +12V rail since most PC parts draw their power from there. More amps on the +12V rail allows you to add more add-ons cards(sound cards, TV tuners, etc), hard drives, or faster video cards without the power supply dying on you.

You determine the amperage on the +12V rails by first finding out what’s the total combined wattage set aside for the +12V rails alone. Often some power supplies do not tell you this information straight up. If you see this on the power supply label: [+3.3v & +5V Combined: Some wattage], then just subtract that “Some Wattage” from the overall total wattage of the power supply.

So for example, the Purepower 500W PSU that you chose has a +3.3v & +5V Combined wattage of 220W as shown here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowI...ermaltake+Purepower+W0100RU+500W+Power+Supply

So subtract 220W from 500W and we get 280W available on the +12V Rail. Now divide that total wattage for the +12V by 12 and you get how much amps the PSU has on the +12V rail. In this case, 280W divided by 12 is ~23A. So the Thermaltake Purepower PSU has 23A on the +12V Rail.

For comparison, the XClio Goodpower I recommended above has 30A on the +12 Rail. So the XClio Goodpower 500W power supply will provide you with more room for upgrades than the power supply you originally chose.

Second, will there be gaming on these "work" computers? If not, just drop the 7950GT or 2900Pro all together and pick some cheap $30 video card. Or even switch to a mobo with onboard video to save power. If there is gaming on these work PCs, still ditch the 7950GT or 2900Pro. Both gets absolutely owned by the ATI HD 3850 which can be had for $144:
VisionTek Radeon HD 3850 256MB PCI-E Video Card - $144

Third, ditch the Thermaltake HSF as well. The Tuniq Tower outperforms it and it costs $5 less:
Tuniq Tower 120 HSF - $45

Fourth, thats a bad price for a 400GB drive. Especially since you can get a 500GB drive for the same price:
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $103

Fifth, switch to a SATA DVD drive instead. It won't be any faster than an IDE drive BUT it will allow for a much cleaner case with better airflow. Here's a pretty good one:
LITE-ON LH-20A1S 20X DVD±R SATA DVD Burner - $29

Sixth and the big one: Intel or AMD? Go with the Intel build with the E6550. It's faster, runs cooler and OC higher than the AMD X2 6000+. The E6550 will is a much better buy than the X2 6000+

Seventh, you can get that case for cheaper here:
Antec P182 ATX Case - $105

Eighth, if this PC will be on for a good majority of the day and if it will be for gaming, go with a much better power supply than the one I recommended earlier in this post. All of these PSU will provide more power than the XClio I recommended, is of much better quality and are mostly 80+ efficient, meaning that they waste less energy as heat which cuts down on electricity bills.
Corsair 450VX 450W PSU - $72
Corsair 550VX 550W PSU - $83
Corsair 520HX 520W PSU - $109
Corsair 650TX 650W PSU - $143
Corsair 620HX 620W PSU - $147

Jedikid · Dec 24, 2007

yeah thanks for the post, i was bored, early this morning and put a 5 min build together really didn't pair items up that greatly. but probably on christmas i'll have more time to pick parts and things. but seriously thanks for the input, learned my some stuff on PSU. and thanks about that.

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